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Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 14 Nov 2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 11/14/2007 11:33:43 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything


By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 6:01pm GMT 14/11/2007

An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe, seen by some as the Holy Grail of physics, which as received rave reviews from scientists.

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The E8 pattern (left), Garrett Lisi surfing (middle) and out of the water (right)

Garrett Lisi, 39, has a doctorate but no university affiliation and spends most of the year surfing in Hawaii, where he has also been a hiking guide and bridge builder (when he slept in a jungle yurt).

In winter, he heads to the mountains near Lake Tahoe, Nevada, where he snowboards. "Being poor sucks," Lisi says. "It's hard to figure out the secrets of the universe when you're trying to figure out where you and your girlfriend are going to sleep next month."

Despite this unusual career path, his proposal is remarkable because, by the arcane standards of particle physics, it does not require highly complex mathematics.

Even better, it does not require more than one dimension of time and three of space, when some rival theories need ten or even more spatial dimensions and other bizarre concepts. And it may even be possible to test his theory, which predicts a host of new particles, perhaps even using the new Large Hadron Collider atom smasher that will go into action near Geneva next year.

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Although the work of 39 year old Garrett Lisi still has a way to go to convince the establishment, let alone match the achievements of Albert Einstein, the two do have one thing in common: Einstein also began his great adventure in theoretical physics while outside the mainstream scientific establishment, working as a patent officer, though failed to achieve the Holy Grail, an overarching explanation to unite all the particles and forces of the cosmos.

Now Lisi, currently in Nevada, has come up with a proposal to do this. Lee Smolin at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, describes Lisi's work as "fabulous". "It is one of the most compelling unification models I've seen in many, many years," he says.

"Although he cultivates a bit of a surfer-guy image its clear he has put enormous effort and time into working the complexities of this structure out over several years," Prof Smolin tells The Telegraph.

"Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory," adds David Ritz Finkelstein at the Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta. "This must be more than coincidence and he really is touching on something profound."

The new theory reported today in New Scientist has been laid out in an online paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" by Lisi, who completed his doctorate in theoretical physics in 1999 at the University of California, San Diego.

He has high hopes that his new theory could provide what he says is a "radical new explanation" for the three decade old Standard Model, which weaves together three of the four fundamental forces of nature: the electromagnetic force; the strong force, which binds quarks together in atomic nuclei; and the weak force, which controls radioactive decay.

The reason for the excitement is that Lisi's model also takes account of gravity, a force that has only successfully been included by a rival and highly fashionable idea called string theory, one that proposes particles are made up of minute strings, which is highly complex and elegant but has lacked predictions by which to do experiments to see if it works.

But some are taking a cooler view. Prof Marcus du Sautoy told the Telegraph: "The proposal in this paper looks a long shot and there seem to be a lot things still to fill in."

And a colleague Eric Weinstein in America added: "Lisi seems like a hell of a guy. I'd love to meet him. But my friend Lee Smolin is betting on a very very long shot."

Lisi's inspiration lies in the most elegant and intricate shape known to mathematics, called E8 - a complex, eight-dimensional mathematical pattern with 248 points first found in 1887, but only fully understood by mathematicians this year after workings, that, if written out in tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.

E8 encapsulates the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-dimensional and is itself is 248-dimensional. Lisi says "I think our universe is this beautiful shape."

What makes E8 so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded it at the heart of many bits of physics. One interpretation of why we have such a quirky list of fundamental particles is because they all result from different facets of the strange symmetries of E8.

Lisi's breakthrough came when he noticed that some of the equations describing E8's structure matched his own. "My brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," he tells New Scientist. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

What Lisi had realised was that he could find a way to place the various elementary particles and forces on E8's 248 points. What remained was 20 gaps which he filled with notional particles, for example those that some physicists predict to be associated with gravity.

Physicists have long puzzled over why elementary particles appear to belong to families, but this arises naturally from the geometry of E8, he says. So far, all the interactions predicted by the complex geometrical relationships inside E8 match with observations in the real world. "How cool is that?" he says.

The crucial test of Lisi's work will come only when he has made testable predictions. Lisi is now calculating the masses that the 20 new particles should have, in the hope that they may be spotted when the Large Hadron Collider starts up.

"The theory is very young, and still in development," he told the Telegraph. "Right now, I'd assign a low (but not tiny) likelyhood to this prediction.

"For comparison, I think the chances are higher that LHC will see some of these particles than it is that the LHC will see superparticles, extra dimensions, or micro black holes as predicted by string theory. I hope to get more (and different) predictions, with more confidence, out of this E8 Theory over the next year, before the LHC comes online."



TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: maybeyesmaybeno; physics; science; stringtheory; surfer; theoryofeverything
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To: grey_whiskers
I read once that Heisenberg came up with the Uncertainty Principle while ensconced in a love nest with a girlfriend for a couple of weeks...

I believe you're thinking of Schrödinger, g_w. Here's a fun article from March, 2006:

Einstein, Feynman and other famous swingers

And here's the relevant passage from that article:

While once floundering on a problem, Erwin Schrödinger shacked up in an alpine villa for an extended holiday with “an old girlfriend” and, in the “late erotic outburst” that followed, produced the eponymous equation that would net him the Nobel.

Obviously, the “old girlfriend” is not to be confused with Schrödinger's wife at the time...

161 posted on 11/14/2007 5:16:50 PM PST by snarks_when_bored (quote)
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To: grey_whiskers

Nah. (laugh)


162 posted on 11/14/2007 5:19:56 PM PST by snarks_when_bored (quote)
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To: snarks_when_bored
In winter, he heads to the mountains near Lake Tahoe, Nevada, where he snowboards. "Being poor sucks," Lisi says.

He surfs in Hawaii half the year, snowboards in Lake Tahoe the other half, has a girlfriend that puts up with it, and he's got nothing to lose. That's not poor. That's as good as it gets.

163 posted on 11/14/2007 5:22:47 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

E8? Too complex.

2B


164 posted on 11/14/2007 5:34:03 PM PST by PGalt
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To: snarks_when_bored

The lost me after, “An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe,...”

This pretzle is making me thirsty.


165 posted on 11/14/2007 5:54:57 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: snarks_when_bored

I wonder if Einstein said “Holy Crap, that’s it!” when he made his big discovery....


166 posted on 11/14/2007 6:01:18 PM PST by uncitizen
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To: Hyzenthlay

ping


167 posted on 11/14/2007 6:23:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Skip Ripley

Show me more evidence.


168 posted on 11/14/2007 6:28:15 PM PST by Professional
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To: Gideon7

LOL DUDE!


169 posted on 11/14/2007 6:28:33 PM PST by Professional
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To: snarks_when_bored
While once floundering on a problem, Erwin Schrödinger shacked up in an alpine villa for an extended holiday with “an old girlfriend” and, in the “late erotic outburst” that followed, produced the eponymous equation that would net him the Nobel.

You holed it in one (as did he, apparently).

Meantime, I've had a deadline at work breathing down my neck there and a teenager breathing down my neck (less time to FReep or anything else) at home...

Cheers!

170 posted on 11/14/2007 6:59:32 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Bump for reference


171 posted on 11/14/2007 7:06:43 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: snarks_when_bored

172 posted on 11/14/2007 7:09:32 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: taxed2death

This the guy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Michael_Langan


173 posted on 11/14/2007 7:14:23 PM PST by tamu
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To: Moonman62
He surfs in Hawaii half the year, snowboards in Lake Tahoe the other half, has a girlfriend that puts up with it, and he's got nothing to lose. That's not poor. That's as good as it gets.

Don't confuse the Freepers who think that they became experts on the lives of surfers from watching "Fast Times at Ridgemont High."

174 posted on 11/14/2007 7:27:41 PM PST by TChad
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

I figured both you and Alamo would like the geometry.


175 posted on 11/14/2007 7:33:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: snarks_when_bored

“While once floundering on a problem, Erwin Schrödinger shacked up in an alpine villa for an extended holiday with “an old girlfriend” and, in the “late erotic outburst” that followed, produced the eponymous equation that would net him the Nobel.”

“Obviously, the “old girlfriend” is not to be confused with Schrödinger’s wife at the time...”

Am I correct in supposing there is also a distinction to be made between Schrodinger’s cat and Schrodinger’s pussy?


176 posted on 11/14/2007 7:37:06 PM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Dr.Deth

First thing I thought of! LOL!


177 posted on 11/14/2007 7:48:25 PM PST by redhead (VICTORY FIRST, THEN PEACE)
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To: RightWhale
IQ above 130 should be treated as a disability by the state and those unfortunates should be put on stipend for life including an allowance for philosophy and math books from Amazon of $100 a month.

I concur; I would amend your proposal, though, to increase the book stipend to at least $1,000 a month. Those philosophy and math books (let's toss in bio-chem books as well for light reading) come dear! My Amazon 'wish list' - for books alone - easily exceeds $1K a month.

178 posted on 11/14/2007 7:51:58 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Hmmmmmmm...this thread seems to be tailor-made for testing an observational theory of human intelligence that I'm developing: monitoring the posts to categorise those who immediately carp at the source of the ideas and the publications ("Hey, if this guy were so bright he'd be at LL!"), vs. those posters who grapple with the idea itself on its merits vel non. The former demonstrate the huddled "group-thinkers" who are essentially incapable of original thought or break-throughs, the latter is comprised of those who have the potential for real thinking. Those who simply make jokes are being placed, as a first approximation, in the latter category as well, as the humorous mentality also evidences the flash of creativity.
179 posted on 11/14/2007 8:07:27 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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To: TrueKnightGalahad
Gee, all awhile I thought was reading his paper because I think it fun to learn something new...

But I still thank the answer is 42.


180 posted on 11/14/2007 8:15:27 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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