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Now if we can just convince the other half.
1 posted on 10/23/2007 6:34:52 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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“Now if we can just convince the other half.”

The other half is the MSM.


2 posted on 10/23/2007 6:36:21 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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Actually, we would only really need to convince some percentage of the other half. There are some out there who will never be convinced...


3 posted on 10/23/2007 6:37:24 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (You can't seriously tell me you think we need more laws, or that we don't already have too many.)
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This is consistent with the same polling taken for months now.

Which is why all this "We need Rudy to win it for us" junk is hokum.

4 posted on 10/23/2007 6:37:28 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Libertarianism is applied autism)
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1/2 of voters would never vote for Hillary Clinton.

Rudy Giuliani has the majority identical views as Hillary Clinton.

Those 1/2 voters will never vote for Giuliani.

DON’T VOTE GIULIANI IN THE PRIMARY.

NO GIULIANI, NO PROBLEM.


5 posted on 10/23/2007 6:38:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: teddyballgame; george76; Liz; tubebender; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Take a little break for a humorous look at Hill in 2008:

http://jokelibrary.net/yyPictures/m/2008b.html


6 posted on 10/23/2007 6:39:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007))
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“Older voters were the most hostile to the attorney and former first lady-turned US senator, who is seeking to become the first woman US president. Fifty-nine percent of those over 65 said they would never vote for Clinton, according to the survey which ranked leading Democratic and Republican hopefuls’

So in other words those that are most likely to actually vote say they would never vote for her. Interesting eh.


8 posted on 10/23/2007 6:41:29 AM PDT by driftdiver
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This is encouraging -

no democrat has every gotten 50% of the vote for the presidency in 30 years.

And if 50% say “never”, we only have to convince a few more who “might” to “not”.


9 posted on 10/23/2007 6:41:55 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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Need to get it over 60% to compensate for Democrat vote fraud.


10 posted on 10/23/2007 6:42:33 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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These folks are not counting three very important Democrat constituencies: Illegals, Felons, and Dead People.
With those three groups voting 110% for Hillary!, she doesn’t have any problems.
16 posted on 10/23/2007 6:46:16 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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This just means she has to cheat even harder.


17 posted on 10/23/2007 6:46:37 AM PDT by JZelle
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I REALLY hate her!!


19 posted on 10/23/2007 6:47:35 AM PDT by ZULU (We)
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Pretty much reinforces what I have been hearing anecdotally from hardened liberals. They hate Hillary. So maybe it would be a good thing to have as the nominee. Seems like it wouldn’t take a lot of effort to really drive up her negatives even more. Whatever is said, she remains a very polarizing person and she will never be able to escape that. People know Hillary and they have a well established opinion of her that will not easily be changed due to slick advertising or spin.
20 posted on 10/23/2007 6:47:46 AM PDT by Obadiah
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This is why they need a third party candidate. Bill won with 43%. 57% voted for someone else, but he became president. Thank you Ross Perot.


22 posted on 10/23/2007 6:49:02 AM PDT by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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From an email going around. Snopes states this is “undetermined.” I, however, do not doubt it. My husband and I met the father of a Secret Service agent working in DC and, based on his comments, I don’t doubt this for a second.

YOU WILL FIND THE SECRET SERVICE VIEWS ON THE
PERSONALITIES OF PAST PRESIDENTS TO BE QUITE INTERESTING.
For those who don’t know ... Capt. Denny Keast
flies for UAL and flew many SAM’s (Special Air
Mission’s) for the White House.

“...Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret
Service as a whole. Former President Bill Clinton
was much more amiable than his wife. Often the
Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks
Hillary would use against her husband. They were
embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency
in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the
presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind
closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary
Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that
everyone could hear what she was saying. Many felt
sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he
tolerated it instead of just divorcing his ‘attack
dog’ wife. It was crystal clear that the Clintons
neither liked nor respected each other and this was
true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
Theirs was genuinely a ‘marriage of convenience.’

His (Bubba) security detail uniformly believed him to
be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing
without a motive that in some way would enhance his
image and political career. He was polite, but not
kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody
trusted him...”


32 posted on 10/23/2007 6:58:45 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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Hillary can win with less than 50%, because the RNC and GOP leadership continues to push policies that divide the GOP.

The GOP wannabes are dividing approximately 20-25% of the delegate votes. None is clearly ahead. And they represent the extreme left to center of the party. They seem to be heading for a brokered convention. The resulting smoke-filled back-room selectee could be worse than Dole ‘96 for the election.

The GOP leadership/RNC are anticipating that the conservative base they have shunned and disparaged will flock back when Hillary gets the Dem nomination. The GOP leadership/RNC would be in for a rude awakening — they failed to hear the message of 06 that resulted in their losing both the Senate and House majorities.

35 posted on 10/23/2007 7:01:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Hillary Clinton ... tops the list when voters are asked for whom they would never, ever cast a ballot, a poll out Monday found.

We've been hearing this for MONTHS now. Old news. Gimme a poll about the moderates, the Independents, that are LIKELY to vote.

37 posted on 10/23/2007 7:02:53 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. "What happens if neutrinos have mass?")
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And.....

I'd make the point that her biggest supporters (single, young women) are going to vote Democrat anyway, regardless of who runs on the ticket.

SO....She has negatives in the 40s or even 50%, and she is not attracting anything new for a voter base. And Dems still think she can win?

43 posted on 10/23/2007 7:08:07 AM PDT by wbill
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Hillary knows that in a two way race she loses.

I believe the CLintons have someone ready to run third party to help get her elected.

Is is Ron Paul or Rudy McRomney???


50 posted on 10/23/2007 7:17:59 AM PDT by proudpapa (Thompson and/or Hunter.)
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The problem isn’t Hillary Clinton. She loses if the GOP nominates somebody that conservatives can trust.

I believe Rudy Guiliani being nominated will depress the GOP vote by around 15 - 25%. That makes her winning the election possible under these circumstances.

I won’t vote for Guiliani under any circumstances.


53 posted on 10/23/2007 7:20:05 AM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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The problem is when you actually name a GOP candidate, suddenly Hillary gets to 50%. The Republicans MUST drive her negatives up another 4-5% to win.


54 posted on 10/23/2007 7:21:27 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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