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Thompson talks of daughter who died
Yahoo News / AP ^ | 10/22/2007 | LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 10/22/2007 4:12:11 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

TAMPA, Fla. - Republican Fred Thompson sidestepped a question about the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case last month, saying he didn't remember the details. On Monday he said he's uncomfortable discussing it because of his own daughter's death.

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"And this will probably be the last time I ever address it."

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He added: "It should be decided by families. The federal government and the state government, too — except for the court system — ought to stay out of it, as far as I'm concerned."

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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Inadequate answer. The special events of the Schiavo case establish the fact that the circumstances were extraordinary, and Thompson has no business being uninformed about it.

The family(s) were involved in it, but the two concerned families had differing views: the cheating husband wanted her dead, but her parents and brother were willing to do whatever would be required to maintain AND IMPROVE her life.

The judge - who had personal and financial ties to the hospice keeping her - refused to actually consider any evidence of conscious thought on her part. And ALL of the appeals were rejected, based on a review of legal procedures, never a new evaluation of evidence.

Today we know about at least two new developments concerning the so-called “vegetative state”. The first was the discovery that Ambien can - at least temporarily - restore some of these people to some level of coherent thought. Second, functional MRI can show what parts of a damaged brain are still working, and what stimuli cause these areas to respond. This offers a window into the damaged brain - a way for the owner to communicate back to the examiner.

Terri’s life was snatched away, based on the desire of her husband to rid himself of a burden, and the heartless decisions of a single judge. Any average murderer must be adjudged guilty by a unanimous decision of 12 jurors, after a vigorous defense by an expert advocate. Where were Terri’s other 11?

Justice was set aside for nothing more than convenience, and a life was sacrificed.


81 posted on 10/22/2007 6:18:56 PM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: dschapin
I agree with you - his statement that the courts but not state or federal government clearly shows that he would have come down on the wrong side of the Terri Schievo case. This will not help him at all with pro-lifers like myself who passionately believe that Terri was murdered by the courts in the cruelest way possible.

I'm sorry but I disagree with you. I think he means the family is the proper place for this decision to be made, and if there is a disagreement that it should be taken to the courts. I don't think he claimed to agree with any particular decision made by any particular judge. As we all know judges sometimes make what we would consider to be mistakes.We need to do everything possible to ensure that we have honest and competent judges, and then we need to let them make decisions...as provided for in our constitution.

82 posted on 10/22/2007 6:35:38 PM PDT by adversarial
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To: nicmarlo

Don’t overlook, “except for the court system”.


83 posted on 10/22/2007 6:54:18 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

yeah...there’s always their own exceptions.


84 posted on 10/22/2007 6:57:14 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: vetsvette

I am talking about Freds daughter. It is not the same thing as removing a feeding tube.


85 posted on 10/22/2007 6:57:56 PM PDT by therut
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To: frogjerk
I was actually told, at the time, that starving WAS euphoric. This was from a recovering anorexic who supported Michael Schaivo.
86 posted on 10/22/2007 6:59:52 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: nicmarlo
>>>We need some Thomas Jeffersons....where are they all?

[Duncan Hunter] "When there's a question, err on the side of life."

87 posted on 10/22/2007 7:00:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: prairiebreeze

bump for AM read


88 posted on 10/22/2007 7:06:34 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 Because our troops DESERVE BETTER than Mrs. Bill Clinton.)
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To: dschapin
Thanks for the ping. Too bad the Courts dug such a deep hole that the couldn't back out from what Judge Greer said, "the law of the case is that she will die."

On the other hand, the Rule of Law, the Florida Statutes, not the law of his warped case calls what happened to Terri a felony.

Florida's judicial system is not known for it's integrity or fairness. http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com.

89 posted on 10/22/2007 7:08:36 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: frogjerk

Actually, she died from dehydration. :*(


90 posted on 10/22/2007 7:09:40 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: RobbyS
Inpartially, one hopes. THAT was the root of the controversy, that the judge did not behave in an impartial manner.

Even if that was the case, what right do the legislative and executive branches have in overturning or getting involved with a decision of the judicial branch?

I'm not familiar with the accountability of the judicial branch - maybe the judge can be impeached. If so, impeach him. In a representative republic, the people have to live with the consequences of their votes. If they don't like the judgment of a representative or judge, vote them out or impeach them afterwards, but you can't just arbitrarily get in the middle of or try to change the outcome of a particular case because of a whole lot of public outcry.

The media and activists turned this into a 'uber-Amber Alert' sob story and busybodies bought right into it.

91 posted on 10/22/2007 7:11:12 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Calpernia

Well, there’s one, but Hunter’s part of the Lone Ranger’s club, I think. There’s very few who any longer represent America or American interests, much less American Citizens.


92 posted on 10/22/2007 7:11:20 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: plain talk
The State of Florida reeks with corruption. In that event, it becomes a civil rights matter which is definitely a federal matter. Terri would be alive right now had Alito and Roberts been on the bench. Unfortunately, they weren't supremes yet.

She had no diseases and was not hooked up to machines. Her problem was that she was hooked to a devious, skirt chasin' abusive husband who would not divorce her for monetary reasons. It's alleged Terri became brain injured after she had an $80 hair appointment. She was considering divorce right before the incident that injured her.

93 posted on 10/22/2007 7:12:28 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: dschapin

My neighbor was one of Terri’s nurse at Palms in Largo. She was shocked that Terri was killed because she knew her very well.


94 posted on 10/22/2007 7:14:15 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: vetsvette
Not even one ice chip for two weeks. Even truly terminal patients are given ice chips or whatever they require to makes themselves as comfortable as possible. What happened to Terri was barbaric. Terri's Exit Protocols are on the internet. It's quite a process to kill a healthy person who happens to have brain damage. She definitely wasn't pvs or in a coma.

www.terrisfight.org (helping others who are faced with family disagreements, medical mazes, etc. Terri's getting a statue in Naples at Ave Maria University. The guy who owns Domino's Pizza is a big supporter of taking care of disabled people instead of just killing them.

95 posted on 10/22/2007 7:18:41 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: nmh; All

I’ll not judge him. We’re going through this very same thing in my family right now.

Just PRAY this NEVER happens to you or someone you love. You have NO idea what this is like and how hard these decisions are for parents and/or spouses.

I will tell you this: my relatives husband curses the day that he revived her when he found her, clinically dead. (He’s a Fireman. He couldn’t NOT try to save her.)

Try living with that; bringing someone you love back to “life” only to sentence them to a living Hell.

Granted, each case is different, and I still think Mr. Schaivo is a total JERK who could’ve let Teri live because her parents very muchso wanted to care for her, but ‘til you’ve been there, it’s really hard to see the other side.

Again, I wouldn’t wish these decisions upon my worst enemy.


96 posted on 10/22/2007 7:20:33 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: dschapin
Mary Matalin is with Fred's campaign. It wouldn't surprise me if Mary M. told him it wasn't a big deal any more. It was her bosses that let Terri suffer and die to begin with. MM has no idea what a big deal the first death warrant for an American who committed no crimes is. Judge Greer violated his oath. A judge cannot choose the manner of anyone's death. It is against the law. Even with criminals, it's the jury who decides the sentencing.

Lacking due process, Judge Greer was judge, jury, guardian, henchman, party man, friend of scientology and the aclu, et al.

www.judgegeorgegreer.com

As you may know, those attorneys were Terri's parents' lawyers. She had no counsel or due process. Judge Greer STRETCHED it to say that he was her guardian. That's ILLEGAL too because for a Judge to be someone's guardian, they have to be RELATED.

Judge Greer broke so many laws, it's mind boggling but he was a big RNC party man. She was murdered by RNC brokers. It's disgusting. That's why the Terri question keeps coming up. RNC brokers let her die. We don't want to balance the budget by becoming a full fledged culture of death. At this point, there is a culture of death here in similar to jihadists. Their methods are different but the mission is to take innocent life.

97 posted on 10/22/2007 7:28:42 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: nicmarlo

It’s just another day at the courthouse or at the nursing home or hospital. Florida, The Starvation State. If you want to be neglected, Florida’s waiting for more guinea pigs to practice euthanasia on.


98 posted on 10/22/2007 7:31:14 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri Ping List: 8mmmauser & I'm 4 DUNCAN HUNTER & ?????????)
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To: floriduh voter

No thanks. The last time I visited Florida was the LAST time I ever plan to go to Florida, though I have been invited by a friend who lives there....no way....not until/unless Florida decides to stop murdering innocents.


99 posted on 10/22/2007 7:32:55 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: blaquebyrd; nmh
"These things need to be decided by the family, and I was at that bedside, and I had to make those decisions with the rest of my family."

The difference is that Terry Schiavo's husband had moved on with his life, and was involved with another woman with whom he had two children. That hardly makes him the proper person to be making the decision anymore. If he was the long-suffering husband, sitting at her bedside everyday, then that claim would hold. But as someone who had moved on with his life, he should no longer have been the one to make the decision. So, in this case, her family - her parents, her siblings - were the ones that loved her, and should have been the ones to make the decision. Not her husband. He just wanted to see her dead. Judge Greer was complicit in helping him accomplish his goals - and they were Judge Greer's goals, too - for what liberal doesn't love death?

100 posted on 10/22/2007 7:35:25 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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