Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
I am going to post just a small review of my night with 23 Republicans at the Fox News Orlando Republican Presidential Debate.
Luntz was angry early on before camera's went live when he polled the group to make sure everyone there was undecided. A 21 yr old guy raised his hand and said he was supporting Ron Paul. Luntz absolutely lost it on this kid and said "Why in the hell did you not put that on your questionaire that was e-mailed to you? Why does it not shock me that a Ron Paul supporter would pull this kind of crap?"
"If someone else shows up you are being replaced and out of here...this room is for undecided."
I was originally placed in the second row towards the end of the row next to a man named Fred Hawkins Jr. who is running for Osceola County Commissioner. Luntz asked us a bunch of questions with a camera crew and producers in tow behind him and I was the first to answer. I was the first person to use the word "socialism" and it spread like wild fire.
I said the concept of America voting a socialist like Hillary Clinton as President should be motivation enough for Republicans to get their act together. I reminded Luntz of the Hillary quote saying "This is the same woman who is quoted by the San Francisco Chronicle saying "We will have to take things away for the common good." Luntz had this smirk on his face and he knew I handed him gold.
After 3 segments it was time to go live. By the time you saw what you did at home we had already gone through 3 rounds of questions and I was lighting up the joint with what I call the biggest crisis this campaign.
What do any of these men who are running for President plan on doing to combat the extreme hatred of anyone who is a Republican by the mainstream media and how bad the liberal blogs, Soros, and just about everyone who has some sort of journalistic power slimes Republicans on a daily basis. Who is going to have the spine to stand up to it and how do they plan on doing it when the Bush Administration has been knocked out time and time again with no fight.
WHO IS GOING TO PREVENT THE PERCEPTION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT WAR MONGERING NAZI'S WHO ARE OUT FOR OIL COMPANIES AND THE RICH?
Luntz definitely told us through his polling and research that as of today Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. He was putting all of his money on her. I said you are going to go broke. He said Republicans are too disorganized and the focus group proved that.
I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.
You saw my exchange later on saying we have long memories and do not want to live through that hell again.
The Ron Paul comment I made was simple and sweet and every single person except the Ron Paul supporter all said "perfect" with regards to that remark.
Luntz walks over and says "you are good...you are going down to the front row...keep talking."
We taped about 70 mins worth of discussion. More clips will be aired at 6:20 AM on Fox and Friends First and then 8:20 AM on Fox and Friends. Then more clips from the debate will be aired on tomorrow's Hannity and Colmes as well from 9-10.
I am sure this is when you will see how hardcore it got in there.
I called out the room at the end of it all..when I saw how many people put their hands up that Rudy was the only one who could beat Hillary I said "I am really saddened to see how many people think he is their answer. That is very telling that the fire that was there earlier tonight for all of us agreeing that we want a true Conservative is gone already and that makes me sick as a true Conservative."
To me the top winners tonight were Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and blech...I hate to say this but Rudy. His night was not that bad but he certainly is not my top choice for President.
I called for a thining of the herd. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter need to go. They virtually played zero in the room. It was sad because I really like Tom and Duncan and said that if a Republican wins the White House in 2008 they should all be given cabinet posts ASAP.
Except Paul...which who by the end of the night lost his one supporter...the 21 yr old guy who didn't raise his hand when asked if anyone supported him.
Finally...Luntz. A nice guy but can be insulting. When he compared a moderate conservative to a major serious conservative he wanted a show of hands...then he added "When I say major serious conservative I mean you can hear the German Nazi marching bands and get excited", I then said to him "There it is..exactly what I was talking about." Luntz said "Relax I was only joking." I said "I know you were and it is that kind of talk that I am absolutely disgusted by and sick of...sick of it Frank...enough is enough with the nazi conservative comparisons people have got to speak up for conservatives...true conservatives."
That in a short capsule is it. Met some really nice people and we had a discussion at the end of everything and went our own ways.
I thank Luntz for letting me say whatever I wanted to on camera and speak up for Conservatives and letting me call Ron Paul out on global television.
I even agree with much of what he says but he seems to not know that we were attacked on 9/11 by a bunch of radical Islamists who want to either convert us or kill us.
Lmao,Only because we shut that nonsense down.I dont want to have to do that again with a huckabee as potus.
Thank you for such an insightful report! Well done:)
They are going to absolutely freak out when they learn you were a FReeper, Pete Stark raving mad!
That comment tells me every thing I need to know about these stupid pollings
Sweet. You make us proud. Keep up the good work.
I’m thinking more like the Larouche wing than the Kucinich wing.
Duncan Hunter is THE conservtive.
*Immigration & Border Defense
*Fair Trade with China
*Military Credentials & Service
*Funding our Military
*Abortion
*Years of service in the House
*Family Values
*War on Terror
This man's conservative credentials are impecable.
I guess that's why the media is marginalizing him.
WAKE UP EVERYBODY - THE MEDIA IS TRYING TO HIDE HIM FROM US!
Are we gonna fall for it again? and again? and again!
I'm praying for Republicans to find sanity and hoping to get to cast my vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008.
LOL! Now that’s funny, and entirely accurate.
That shuts them up quick.
What was it?
Also same question with Mike Huckabee. I thought he impressed me the most, yet according to many on these threads he is just the new MSM darling they have decided to push to get Fred out of the race, and further split the social conservative vote.
Were you allowed free reign of thought, or were you asked more leading questions that benefited some (Rudy and Mike), at the exclusion of others (Fred). The only one that somewhat disappointed me was Mitt. I had liked him, and his chances before, but for some reason I just didn't "like" him last night. Did anyone else have that opinion?
small government is not insane. Paul’s core liberatian views are great. His head is in the sand when it comes to modern day realities. He’s an ostrich when it comes to real life foreign policy and refuses to realize that the modern world’s enemies have different tactics and weapons than the British red coats 225 years ago.
“Ron Paul is certifiably insane” - it was in the pre-debate portion of the show.
Thank you for saying what needed to be said. He and his supporters should be booted out of the party. They are not Republicans. Everytime I hear libertarian in the future I will remember Ron Paul and his supporters.
I love how you guys (and gals) shot down FNC’s text poll that Alan Colmes happily pronounced Ron Paul as the winner. When asked who thought Ron Paul won NOT 1 OF YOU RAISED YOUR HAND. NOT 1!
Thank you and all the Florida republicans. You gave me great hope for this country. On to victory!
Didn’t see the 6:20 report, but in the 8:20 one, Fred Thompson seemed to get the most favorable coverage.
On that general subject, see the third quote on my FR home page, the two-paragraph one by Hayek.
“Hunter is a very good man. He’s well grounded to the point of being scarey. He believes as I do on right to life, illegal immigration, fair trade, defense, China.. this guy is amazing.
Look folks, these men are not just voicing good policy on their own behalf, they are voicing good policy so the other candidates will have to tow the line.
Duncan Hunter is a man who should not only be in the next debate, but he should be given equal time with Rudy, Fred, Romney and McCain. There was a selective effort to limit Hunter’s participation last evening. That was wrong. The guy only got 1% of the vote, but hell he was only asked a limited number of questions 4 or 5, and brought in to participate a couple of other times.
This telegraphed that he was non-viable and effectively froze him out of support. At least that’s the way I see it.
Folks, I have made decision not to vote for anyone except a true conservative this year.”
Nobody else is getting a dime from me. The party has lost its soul and its ability to connect the dots.
If they push Hunter out, I’m going too.
Gotta go write Hunter a check!
See ya!
www.gohunter08.com
>>>>”I did love McCain’s Woodstock retort though!”
>>What was it?
Somehow Woodstock came up, and McCain commented that he didn’t attend, that he was a little tied up at the time. This warranted a standing ovation, as well as applause from most of his primary opponents.
He's wrong! You Floridians and the candidates proved that last night.
“This telegraphed that he was non-viable and effectively froze him out of support. At least that’s the way I see it.”
Me too, our news media and the press are controlling who gets into the primaries. People are not given equal publicity, equal treatment, because heck, they are unknown, and why publicise an unknown?
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