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My Night At The Orlando Fox News Presidential Debate
Myself | 10-22-2007 | my favorite headache

Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

I am going to post just a small review of my night with 23 Republicans at the Fox News Orlando Republican Presidential Debate.

Luntz was angry early on before camera's went live when he polled the group to make sure everyone there was undecided. A 21 yr old guy raised his hand and said he was supporting Ron Paul. Luntz absolutely lost it on this kid and said "Why in the hell did you not put that on your questionaire that was e-mailed to you? Why does it not shock me that a Ron Paul supporter would pull this kind of crap?"

"If someone else shows up you are being replaced and out of here...this room is for undecided."

I was originally placed in the second row towards the end of the row next to a man named Fred Hawkins Jr. who is running for Osceola County Commissioner. Luntz asked us a bunch of questions with a camera crew and producers in tow behind him and I was the first to answer. I was the first person to use the word "socialism" and it spread like wild fire.

I said the concept of America voting a socialist like Hillary Clinton as President should be motivation enough for Republicans to get their act together. I reminded Luntz of the Hillary quote saying "This is the same woman who is quoted by the San Francisco Chronicle saying "We will have to take things away for the common good." Luntz had this smirk on his face and he knew I handed him gold.

After 3 segments it was time to go live. By the time you saw what you did at home we had already gone through 3 rounds of questions and I was lighting up the joint with what I call the biggest crisis this campaign.

What do any of these men who are running for President plan on doing to combat the extreme hatred of anyone who is a Republican by the mainstream media and how bad the liberal blogs, Soros, and just about everyone who has some sort of journalistic power slimes Republicans on a daily basis. Who is going to have the spine to stand up to it and how do they plan on doing it when the Bush Administration has been knocked out time and time again with no fight.

WHO IS GOING TO PREVENT THE PERCEPTION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT WAR MONGERING NAZI'S WHO ARE OUT FOR OIL COMPANIES AND THE RICH?

Luntz definitely told us through his polling and research that as of today Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. He was putting all of his money on her. I said you are going to go broke. He said Republicans are too disorganized and the focus group proved that.

I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.

You saw my exchange later on saying we have long memories and do not want to live through that hell again.

The Ron Paul comment I made was simple and sweet and every single person except the Ron Paul supporter all said "perfect" with regards to that remark.

Luntz walks over and says "you are good...you are going down to the front row...keep talking."

We taped about 70 mins worth of discussion. More clips will be aired at 6:20 AM on Fox and Friends First and then 8:20 AM on Fox and Friends. Then more clips from the debate will be aired on tomorrow's Hannity and Colmes as well from 9-10.

I am sure this is when you will see how hardcore it got in there.

I called out the room at the end of it all..when I saw how many people put their hands up that Rudy was the only one who could beat Hillary I said "I am really saddened to see how many people think he is their answer. That is very telling that the fire that was there earlier tonight for all of us agreeing that we want a true Conservative is gone already and that makes me sick as a true Conservative."

To me the top winners tonight were Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and blech...I hate to say this but Rudy. His night was not that bad but he certainly is not my top choice for President.

I called for a thining of the herd. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter need to go. They virtually played zero in the room. It was sad because I really like Tom and Duncan and said that if a Republican wins the White House in 2008 they should all be given cabinet posts ASAP.

Except Paul...which who by the end of the night lost his one supporter...the 21 yr old guy who didn't raise his hand when asked if anyone supported him.

Finally...Luntz. A nice guy but can be insulting. When he compared a moderate conservative to a major serious conservative he wanted a show of hands...then he added "When I say major serious conservative I mean you can hear the German Nazi marching bands and get excited", I then said to him "There it is..exactly what I was talking about." Luntz said "Relax I was only joking." I said "I know you were and it is that kind of talk that I am absolutely disgusted by and sick of...sick of it Frank...enough is enough with the nazi conservative comparisons people have got to speak up for conservatives...true conservatives."

That in a short capsule is it. Met some really nice people and we had a discussion at the end of everything and went our own ways.

I thank Luntz for letting me say whatever I wanted to on camera and speak up for Conservatives and letting me call Ron Paul out on global television.


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1 posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:03 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

Sounds like you did a great job.

I didn’t get to see any of it. I’m hoping to find a video online, but can’t find anything at Fox’s disaster of a website.


2 posted on 10/21/2007 11:42:41 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. -- Sherman)
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To: My Favorite Headache

What was your Ron Paul comment?


3 posted on 10/21/2007 11:44:05 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. -- Sherman)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

“Ron Paul is certifiably insane” - it was in the pre-debate portion of the show.


4 posted on 10/21/2007 11:45:15 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I said the concept of America voting a socialist like Hillary Clinton as President should be motivation enough for Republicans to get their act together.

Absolutely spot on correct. We need to forget trying to hammer out the perfect candidate and put together a winning team that can beat the hildabeast.

5 posted on 10/21/2007 11:45:19 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Luntz’s last question of the night was “Is America ready for a Mormon President?”

My answer was “If America could vote for Bill Clinton...twice...and still have this love afair with the Clinton’s...then they can handle a Mormon.”


6 posted on 10/21/2007 11:47:39 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Nice going. I thought you did a great good for the conservatives by the comments you made on Prime Time. Kudu’s to you for a job well done.


7 posted on 10/21/2007 11:49:45 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Nice. This thread needs clips, though.

Someone please post a video clip of My Favorite Headache’s appearance!


8 posted on 10/21/2007 11:50:39 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. -- Sherman)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Agree...I want to see the debate online, but I feel I lost my chance.

It sounded like a good one.... : /


9 posted on 10/21/2007 11:53:42 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: My Favorite Headache
“If America could vote for Bill Clinton...twice...and still have this love afair with the Clinton’s...then they can handle a Mormon.”

Ouch! I don't think that qualifies as a "fine detail" of a perfect candidate. There are other issues with Mitt, he would be no more than third or fourth on my list and not a real contender to beat hilldabeast, which means he is not really on the list at all.

10 posted on 10/21/2007 11:58:06 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

When you are being asked a question you are allowed 3-5 sentence answers max. Believe me if I could have gotten into more detail I would have!


11 posted on 10/21/2007 11:59:50 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: My Favorite Headache

If Paul altered his message to say, in effect, “Muslims are not worth our time and blood; we should defend our borders,” he would be unstoppable. Hannity seemed to have apoplexy over the 34% win by Paul. I liked Huckabee a lot tonight too; he struck me, particularly in the interview afterwards, as being his own man.


12 posted on 10/22/2007 12:17:56 AM PDT by farmer18th
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To: My Favorite Headache
Why does it not shock me that a Ron Paul supporter would pull this kind of crap?"

Some questions automatically provide their own answers.

13 posted on 10/22/2007 12:27:09 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Thanks for the report.
BUMP for great freeping.


14 posted on 10/22/2007 12:33:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: farmer18th

Yep Huckabee is his own man alright, except when it comes to illegal immigration. Then he’s George Bush.


15 posted on 10/22/2007 12:37:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I appreciate your efforts to participate in this.  You got some great shots in and I'm looking foward to seeing/hearing more.

Let me address these comments for a moment if you would.


To me the top winners tonight were Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and blech...I hate to say this but Rudy. His night was not that bad but he certainly is not my top choice for President.

I called for a thining of the herd. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter need to go. They virtually played zero in the room. It was sad because I really like Tom and Duncan and said that if a Republican wins the White House in 2008 they should all be given cabinet posts ASAP.


What concerns me is that I have seen folks talk about Romney, Huckabee, Thompson and Rudy as if we knew nothing about them.

Rudy is a raving leftist.  I don't care if he wins a debate or not, he isn't viable.  I'm not voting for him period.
Romney is another closet/not so closet leftist:  He isn't viable either.  I'm not voting for him peirod.
Huckabee is a good guy.  It's just that on immigration that guy is George Bush.  I'm not voting for him period.

I have had it with deconstruction from the right side of the isle.  Either they are with me and what conservatism stands for, or they are running from the wrong party.

Paul is Paul.  I don't need to say more.  I'm not voting for him period.
Tancredo has been a good foot sholdier for border security, but I don't think he has a broad enough platform to be viable either.  I would vote for him, I think.  I won't get that chance.
Hunter is a very good man.  He's well grounded to the point of being scarey.  He believes as I do on right to life, illegal immigration, fair trade, defense, China.. this guy is amazing.

Look folks, these men are not just voicing good policy on their own behalf, they are voicing good policy so the other candidates will have to tow the line.

Duncan Hunter is a man who should not only be in the next debate, but he should be given equal time with Rudy, Fred, Romney and McCain.  There was a selective effort to limit Hunter's participation last evening.  That was wrong.  The guy only got 1% of the vote, but hell he was only asked a limited number of questions 4 or 5, and brought in to participate a couple of other times.

This telegraphed that he was non-viable and effectively froze him out of support.  At least that's the way I see it.

Folks, I have made decision not to vote for anyone except a true conservative this year.  I know that will rub some of you the wrong way.  That being the case, I wrote down the reasons why.

If you would like, please use this link.  If you disagree, don't be afraid to say so.  I won't give you a super-hard time over it.

Take care.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1914434/posts?page=178#178



16 posted on 10/22/2007 12:56:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Ad hominem seems to be your specialty, Jabba. Why don’t you give one reason - just one - why smaller government is insane?


17 posted on 10/22/2007 1:10:53 AM PDT by donprocto
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To: My Favorite Headache
Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.

Not if Giuliani is the GOP candidate. He and Clinton are both socialists. Voting for either one will only bring more socialism to he White House.
18 posted on 10/22/2007 1:24:25 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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When he compared a moderate conservative to a major serious conservative he wanted a show of hands...

There aren't degrees of conservatism. Either you are conservative or you are not conservative. The misconception of conservatism by degrees is what has caused the GOP to go down the slippery of socialism.
19 posted on 10/22/2007 1:30:59 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: donprocto; My Favorite Headache
Ad hominem seems to be your specialty, Jabba. Why don’t you give one reason - just one - why smaller government is insane?

Why should he? He didn't say 'smaller government is insane', he said 'Ron Paul is certifiably insane'.

Give us one reason why Ron Paul should not be considered the leader of the Kucinich wing of the Republican Party?
20 posted on 10/22/2007 1:32:16 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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