Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
I am going to post just a small review of my night with 23 Republicans at the Fox News Orlando Republican Presidential Debate.
Luntz was angry early on before camera's went live when he polled the group to make sure everyone there was undecided. A 21 yr old guy raised his hand and said he was supporting Ron Paul. Luntz absolutely lost it on this kid and said "Why in the hell did you not put that on your questionaire that was e-mailed to you? Why does it not shock me that a Ron Paul supporter would pull this kind of crap?"
"If someone else shows up you are being replaced and out of here...this room is for undecided."
I was originally placed in the second row towards the end of the row next to a man named Fred Hawkins Jr. who is running for Osceola County Commissioner. Luntz asked us a bunch of questions with a camera crew and producers in tow behind him and I was the first to answer. I was the first person to use the word "socialism" and it spread like wild fire.
I said the concept of America voting a socialist like Hillary Clinton as President should be motivation enough for Republicans to get their act together. I reminded Luntz of the Hillary quote saying "This is the same woman who is quoted by the San Francisco Chronicle saying "We will have to take things away for the common good." Luntz had this smirk on his face and he knew I handed him gold.
After 3 segments it was time to go live. By the time you saw what you did at home we had already gone through 3 rounds of questions and I was lighting up the joint with what I call the biggest crisis this campaign.
What do any of these men who are running for President plan on doing to combat the extreme hatred of anyone who is a Republican by the mainstream media and how bad the liberal blogs, Soros, and just about everyone who has some sort of journalistic power slimes Republicans on a daily basis. Who is going to have the spine to stand up to it and how do they plan on doing it when the Bush Administration has been knocked out time and time again with no fight.
WHO IS GOING TO PREVENT THE PERCEPTION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT WAR MONGERING NAZI'S WHO ARE OUT FOR OIL COMPANIES AND THE RICH?
Luntz definitely told us through his polling and research that as of today Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. He was putting all of his money on her. I said you are going to go broke. He said Republicans are too disorganized and the focus group proved that.
I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.
You saw my exchange later on saying we have long memories and do not want to live through that hell again.
The Ron Paul comment I made was simple and sweet and every single person except the Ron Paul supporter all said "perfect" with regards to that remark.
Luntz walks over and says "you are good...you are going down to the front row...keep talking."
We taped about 70 mins worth of discussion. More clips will be aired at 6:20 AM on Fox and Friends First and then 8:20 AM on Fox and Friends. Then more clips from the debate will be aired on tomorrow's Hannity and Colmes as well from 9-10.
I am sure this is when you will see how hardcore it got in there.
I called out the room at the end of it all..when I saw how many people put their hands up that Rudy was the only one who could beat Hillary I said "I am really saddened to see how many people think he is their answer. That is very telling that the fire that was there earlier tonight for all of us agreeing that we want a true Conservative is gone already and that makes me sick as a true Conservative."
To me the top winners tonight were Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and blech...I hate to say this but Rudy. His night was not that bad but he certainly is not my top choice for President.
I called for a thining of the herd. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter need to go. They virtually played zero in the room. It was sad because I really like Tom and Duncan and said that if a Republican wins the White House in 2008 they should all be given cabinet posts ASAP.
Except Paul...which who by the end of the night lost his one supporter...the 21 yr old guy who didn't raise his hand when asked if anyone supported him.
Finally...Luntz. A nice guy but can be insulting. When he compared a moderate conservative to a major serious conservative he wanted a show of hands...then he added "When I say major serious conservative I mean you can hear the German Nazi marching bands and get excited", I then said to him "There it is..exactly what I was talking about." Luntz said "Relax I was only joking." I said "I know you were and it is that kind of talk that I am absolutely disgusted by and sick of...sick of it Frank...enough is enough with the nazi conservative comparisons people have got to speak up for conservatives...true conservatives."
That in a short capsule is it. Met some really nice people and we had a discussion at the end of everything and went our own ways.
I thank Luntz for letting me say whatever I wanted to on camera and speak up for Conservatives and letting me call Ron Paul out on global television.
We all agreed that Liberals are all together and rooted by one thing...HATE. That is why they appear to be more strong and glued tight. Their hatred over the 2000 election, Republicans, George W Bush, No Child Left Behind, Iraq, 9-11, WOT,oil, the environment...it’s all our fault so they are strong together in hate. So they move like sheep together.
Interesting. I was in the Luntz group in NH, and Frank openly egged people on to do that...and tried to influence the voters.
I’m sure you intimidated any Paul supporters in the group, but that won’t stop them from voting for him, since he’s the only SANE person in the race.
Now if you wanna talk about nutcases that are certifiable, how ‘bout Bomb bomb Iran McCain? Whew...
I watched the whole debate and was really enjoying the comments from the focus group. You got in some great comments!
**“Ron Paul is certifiably insane” **
That was a great comment. Now I can put your face with your screename.
I didn’t say what I did to intimidate any “Paul” voters. I said what I said because that is what I believe. An opinion that is all. It’s funny because this morning Paul voters are trying to out me and what news organizations I work for since I used to be a journalist for a few wire services and papers.
LOL. Too bad for them I left the field in 2005 to work for a better job in advertising!
You are so right. If we get Hillary, it will be these Republicans that gave her to us.
Because, 30% of REAL Republicans will NOT vote for Rudy or Mitt.
Don't count on Clinton hatred to fuel a Republican victory no matter the GOP candidate. Look at 1996. We had a WWII veteran who was a somewhat conservative Senator as our nominee. He lost against much hated Bill Clinton. If we put either Giuliani or Thompson (Dole - WWII vet status), we stand a better chance of losing.
Wonder when polls are going to come out on the debate.
It’s pretty sad when you can call someone a ‘kook’ because he believes in individual liberties, is 100% pro-gun, 100% anti-tax (per the NTU) 100% pro-life (baby doctor won’t do abortions) and has the EXACT SAME FOREIGN POLICY that BUSH ran on in 2000 per this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo
DID YOU and the CRAZY GUY ON LUNTZ vote for BUSH?
I voted for Bush twice.....
But I’m voting for Paul now..the rest of them are liberals.
I can’t put my finger on it at the moment, but I have seen Tancredo address other issues and my general impresson was that he didn’t quite have what it takes. I realize that’s kindof an unfair statement since I haven’t provided any reasons, but that’s my take.
BTW, I believe he did a pretty good job last night, so we pretty much agree on that point. I believe Hunter did well also though.
Aww..I hurt some Paulie fans by calling their boy out on global television.
That has to be the most immature thing I have seen in quite some time. But then again to quote Frank Luntz:
“Why doesn’t it shock me that a Paul supporter would pull this sort of crap?”
I’m not sure what you are talking about. Luntz thought that YOU were a Paul supporter?
What was it that he thought was ‘pulled’?
Like I said, many of us said McCain was a nutcase but it was not allowed.
So much for fair and balanced.
No he didn’t think I was a Paul supporter. Where did you get that from?
You need to re-read my original post at the top of this thread.
Oh, really? Did you hear the crowd reaction to the Republican candidates? Cheers and applause all around. Then there was Ron Paul who received more "boo's" than a haunted house. The nutcase doesn't have a prayer. Oh yeah, I called him a nutcase. This is from someone who, in the early days of FR, used to say that Ron Paul should run for President. That was before he lost his flippin' mind. Yes, McCain is a loose cannon, Manchurian candidate who should never be allowed anywhere near the White House. But Ron Paul is more of the kind of person that needs treatment for his delusional disorders and hallucinatory episodes.
Liberals also just don’t think for themselves. They parrot what key people say, and believe without questioning. Part of that is because they really want to “belong” to what they think is the (current) “in crowd”.
The guy on Luntz is a FReeper. And I call Paul a kook because he’s a raving nutter. If he’s right in a few areas, it doesn’t matter, because he’s a kook.
What the hell is going on?
When you find out, please, let me know!!!
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