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My Night At The Orlando Fox News Presidential Debate
Myself | 10-22-2007 | my favorite headache

Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: sitetest

I am still un-sure as to who I will be voting for. Watched them all last night and have 3 that I am leaning towards.

My neighbor told me that if it comes down to Rudy and Hillary, that she will not vote. She said her and all others christians with strong convictions should not vote if it comes down to them.

If it comes to Hillary and Rudy, I will vote RUDY.


161 posted on 10/22/2007 8:24:02 AM PDT by JFC
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To: My Favorite Headache
Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.

Agreed, EXCEPT:

Let's see, Rudy is too liberal, can't vote for him. Why, if it is between him and Hillery, I will just sit this one out, there is not a dime's diff between the two.

Mccain? Yeah, he might work, but he is a hand grenade just waiting to go off. He is senile, he worked for immigration. Between him and hillery, might as well sit this one out.

Romney? Guess he would be ok, except he is insufficiently pro life, governed Mass (yuck, double yuck) and want my guns. So, between him and Hillery, can't do it, wouldn't be prudent, gotta sit that one out and teach the RNC a lesson. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Paul? You crazy? with him, I would vote for Hillery, as the lesser of two evils.

Fred? He passed gas one time in public, and does not brush his teeth on Sunday mornings. His wife is too young, and last century, he voted for/against stuff that I was against/for. On that basis, how could you expect me to vote for him??? Nope, gotta sit it out if the RNC forces him down my throat.

Hunter? I like him, but geez louis, he has never been anything but an attorney(demerits for that in itself) and a representative in that ill house of the nation. Nope, not enough experience, better for hillery to win, and give america a wake up call.

The rest of them have no chance, so voting for them would only waste my vote. I would be making more of a statement, and making my self much more important (impotent?)to actually vote for hillary, so as to hurry up and collapse this country. Then, Then, you will see a sea change, and the people will actually wake up and start voting conservative, like me.

:-)

162 posted on 10/22/2007 8:28:38 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: JFC
Dear JFC,

“If it comes to Hillary and Rudy, I will vote RUDY.”

I understand. I reckon that you believe that that would be a better result for the country, for Mr. Giuliani to be president rather than Mrs. Clinton.

I disagree. As bad as a second Clinton presidency would be for the United States, I believe that a Giuliani presidency would be worse.

I won’t vote for a baby killer for president.


sitetest

163 posted on 10/22/2007 8:29:08 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Man50D; TomGuy; CharlesWayneCT
Those are facts proving Bush is a socialist Democrat who deceived everyone to think he is a conservative.

Nobody who I know of claims that Bush is a 'true conservative.'

And that's a shame.

But FDR and Truman were no conservatives either.

And there certainly were no Americans back then who'd have let a Stalinist like Hillary take over in those days because Harry And Franklin weren't enough like Ike.

Have you lost your mind? Either get Hunter to the top of the party, start his own party ....whatever it takes.....ANYTHING- ANYONE BUT HILLARY.

Only a running dog co-conspirator would consider sitting home and letting Hillary teach us all a lesson in how to permanently destroy the republic.

164 posted on 10/22/2007 8:30:10 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Even people who call themselves conservatives like Mansierre50D don’t even comprehend the meaning of “socialism” anymore.

Kids wear Che shirts to school, but Old Glory is not allowed in the classroom.

Marx is reaching out from the grave, and McCarthy was right, but gave us a bad name.


165 posted on 10/22/2007 8:33:30 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: longtermmemmory
Giuliani IS Hillary. Same views same positions.

Patently untrue. Giuliani is a socially liberal, pro-military capitalist. Hillary is a communist who loathes the military.

166 posted on 10/22/2007 8:35:36 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: donprocto
Why don’t you give one reason - just one - why smaller government is insane?

That's not what he said.

He said your candidate is insane.

Two different things...

167 posted on 10/22/2007 8:35:54 AM PDT by okie01
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Yeah...you beat me to it. OTOH, no amount of common sense helps much on these threads.


168 posted on 10/22/2007 8:36:05 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: JFC

Amen...me too...can not allow “sink abuse” in the White House ever again...and remember Hillary only wants to go back so that she can steal the remaining china and silverware she didn’t grab the first time.


169 posted on 10/22/2007 8:36:06 AM PDT by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: JMack

Yes it is isn’t it.


170 posted on 10/22/2007 8:40:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That’s my take this go round. Glad it made sense to you.

I don’t like being put in this situation, and I hope it doesn’t come to that.


171 posted on 10/22/2007 8:42:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: JFC
If it comes to Hillary and Rudy, I will vote RUDY.

Then you might as well vote for Clinton since they are both socialists.
172 posted on 10/22/2007 8:45:21 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: sitetest

I am not a single issue voter. I look at the bigger picture. I don’t see Rudy as a baby killer, but I do think he would protect our country. If the far right stay home, and don’t vote, do you win anything?


173 posted on 10/22/2007 8:45:38 AM PDT by JFC
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To: CharlesWayneCT; McGruff
We NEED moderate and liberal republicans, AND independents, to vote for OUR candidates in a general election to win.

I hate to admit it, but I think Rush has done more than anybody to propagate this "purity law" type thinking.

He says: "Conservatism works every single time it's tried."

It is demonstrably not true. Ask Rick Santorum, Michael Steele...

The conservative purists and the marxists have one thing in common: they want everything to be common.

They really don't believe in Federalism, with different laws in different states....they believe that there must be a Gay Marriage Amendment to make everything uniform across the country, pro- or con--. They believe in federal spending---for THEIR pet peeve.

We've lost the ability to even communicate why a broad coalition of a party (including Reagan democrats, etc.) is better than a purified one exclusive of all else.

174 posted on 10/22/2007 8:48:06 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: donprocto
Insane or not, smaller government is just not as important as other issues like the right to life, the RTKBA, military superiority over our nation's enemies, a willingness to use that military superiority relentlessly to wipe out those enemies, andseveral others.

If you REALLY want smaller government, abolish gummint skewels to show good faith. that is definitely a sane policy for smaller gummint. If we can save just one child (or a hundred million of them) from the relentless godless socialist indoctrination and the resulting absolute boredom of gummint skewel inmates......

175 posted on 10/22/2007 8:54:18 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Coldwater Creek

President Reagan signed on to an amnesty plan because he was told there were only 1 million illegals in country, AND he was told legislation was being developed that would end it.

He signed on to the amnesty plan that legalized 3.5 million illegals and continued doing so on up into the early 1990s. And the legislation was passed, but never enforced.

We are told there are ten million illegals in country today. Using the same ratio, that means we’d be legalizing around 35 million people.

While you may laugh at that total, I was reading the other day where a latino activist was claiming there are 50 million illegals in the United States.

He was probably blustering to show how much clout they have, but I think some folks are in for a big surprise when it is finally revealed how many are actually here.

My guess is anywhere from 25 to 35 million. It may actually be higher. I’m just trying to be conservative on it.

Later...


176 posted on 10/22/2007 8:58:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: trickyricky
I did love McCain's Woodstock retort though!

Rudy and McCain were both good last night, as much as I hate to admit it. They both have a sharp, good-natured sense of humor that can be disarming at times.

177 posted on 10/22/2007 8:58:15 AM PDT by Michael A. Velli
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To: Guenevere

Yep, and it’s too bad.


178 posted on 10/22/2007 8:58:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: JFC
Dear JFC,

I’m not a single-issue voter, either.

In fact, really, the only issue with which I have agreement with Mr. Giuliani is the war. Even then, I view him as fatally flawed in his ability to prosecute the war, but that’s another story.

Thus, voting FOR Mr. Giuliani would reduce me to a single-issue voter.

“If the far right stay home, and don’t vote, do you win anything?”

* chuckle *

It’s amusing that someone might lump me in with the “far right.” Some folks at FR have said that I’m not even a conservative at all.

In any event, if Mr. Giuliani is the Republican nominee, then conservatives will have already lost. Pretending otherwise would be foolish. It will be time to look to the future, to figure out how to minimize the current evil, and how to regroup for the future.

In my opinion, it will be important to make sure that Mr. Giuliani, baby-killer, goes down to ignominious defeat. Otherwise, the damage will be even greater.


sitetest

179 posted on 10/22/2007 9:02:03 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.

Great job! But here's where I disagree. If Giuliani is the nominee, the socons either stay home or vote third party and Clinton wins it. That, and the Republican Party will be forever damaged by the debacle. Which is why we can't let Giuliani be the nominee.

180 posted on 10/22/2007 9:03:24 AM PDT by Spiff (<------ Mitt Romney Supporter (Don't tase me, bro!) Go Mitt! www.mittromney.com)
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