[Spiff]

I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.

Great job! But here's where I disagree. If Giuliani is the nominee, the socons either stay home or vote third party and Clinton wins it. That, and the Republican Party will be forever damaged by the debacle. Which is why we can't let Giuliani be the nominee.

[trickyricky]

"If Giuliani is the nominee, the socons either stay home or vote third party"

Here in West Virginia, if the voters have a choice between 2 New York liberals, I predict a record low turnout.
The Witch will probably take the state, judging by what I hear from people across the board.
Many Democrats crossed over for Bush. I don't believe Julie would get a fraction of that vote.

[My Favorite Headache]

We have to work at not settling for Rudy but getting the job done right in the primary. But when the chips are down you will see people voting against Hillary more than they are for Rudy.

She is NOT liked.