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We need a new Constitution
LA Times ^ | 10 October 2007 | Larry J. Sabato

Posted on 10/10/2007 5:39:34 AM PDT by shrinkermd

The presidential candidates are offering prescriptions for everything from Iraq to healthcare, but listen closely. Their fixes are situational and incremental. Meanwhile, the underlying structural problems in American politics and government are systemic and prevent us from solving our most intractable challenges.

If we really want to make progress and achieve greater fairness as a society, it is time for elemental change. And we should start by looking at the Constitution, with the goal of holding a new Constitutional Convention.

Sound radical? If so, then the founders were radicals. They would be amazed and disappointed that after 220 years, the inheritors of their Constitution had not tried to adapt to new developments that the founders could never have anticipated in Philadelphia in 1787.

Thomas Jefferson, for example, insisted that "no society can make a perpetual Constitution. ... The Earth belongs always to the living generation. ... Every Constitution ... naturally expires at the end of 19 years" (the length of a generation in Jefferson's time).

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: barfalert; constitution; idiotsinmedia; sabato
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Larry J. Sabato is the author of "A More Perfect Constitution: 23 Proposals to Revitalize Our Constitution and Make America a Fairer Country." He directs the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.
1 posted on 10/10/2007 5:39:38 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!


2 posted on 10/10/2007 5:41:45 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: The Louiswu

It “ain’t broke”, never was - it just needs adhered to.

A couple of amendments that neuter states rights need to be eliminated or “re-interpreted” within original intent.

But, other than that - “it ain’t broke”.


3 posted on 10/10/2007 5:43:20 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: shrinkermd

” make progress and achieve greater fairness “

Neocommunist buzzwords....


4 posted on 10/10/2007 5:43:31 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: shrinkermd

Fairness is in the eye of the beholder. Hitler thought it was fair for his “master race” to rule the world.


5 posted on 10/10/2007 5:45:06 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: shrinkermd
The U.S. Constitution has about 4400 words in it. It is the shortest and oldest Constitution still in use. The Constitution of the European Union, by comparison, has 341 pages. If we tried to creat a new Constitution can you imagine what kind of mess it would turn out to be?
6 posted on 10/10/2007 5:45:55 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: shrinkermd

Oh good God. -John Adams


7 posted on 10/10/2007 5:48:01 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

And you know, of course, if it were re-written by the likes of this author, there would be “inherent rights” to the property and production of others.

The author, if you read the whole article, has little knowledge of the reasons the Constitution is structured as it is and no respect, or perhaps even hostility, for traditional values.

No, he’s just upset that he can’t get the courts to “interpret” the Constitution to fit his secular socialist agenda fast enough.


8 posted on 10/10/2007 5:48:30 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You are SO right... Can you imagine a new constitution being drawn up by the CURRENT bunch we have in Washington??? -goodbye U.S. of A.!!!


9 posted on 10/10/2007 5:48:43 AM PDT by J40000
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To: shrinkermd
This was Buchanan's bright idea as well, back in the 2000 campaign.

As heated as the ratification conventions were in the 1780s, there was far more consensus then than there is now.

How would a new Constitutional Convention work?

It would be illegal to abolish the old one without some kind of constitutionally-approved measure like, say, passing an amendment to sunset it.

You would not get 3/4 of the state legislatures to agree to abolish the US Constitution.

10 posted on 10/10/2007 5:50:13 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: shrinkermd
As soon as you start a new Constitutional Convention every crack pot lunatic is going to put their two cents into it and what you will have is an unruly mess. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it but you can amend it.


11 posted on 10/10/2007 5:50:42 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: shrinkermd
I understand the urge, but it would not turn out well, and I would not want to see the attempt.

There is an amendment process. Using that would be much better than a new convention.

12 posted on 10/10/2007 5:51:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

It would be the greatest disaster ever visited upon mankind. I say that because the United States is the hope and the light that keeps western civilization afloat. The neutered, PC country that would emerge from any new Constitutional Convention would sink to the level of a 2nd world nation and would no longer be able to save the world from itself.


13 posted on 10/10/2007 5:52:12 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: shrinkermd

Larry, do you seriously think it’s a good idea to let the same morons who wrote our tax code have a go at a new constitution? To quote Charlie Brown, “good grief!”


14 posted on 10/10/2007 5:53:23 AM PDT by ladtx ( "I don't know how I got over the hill without getting to the top." - - Will Rogers)
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To: shrinkermd
The Constitution is a product of the Age Of Reason and our founding fathers were Renaissance Men.

def"A man who has broad intellectual interests and is accomplished in areas of both the arts and the sciences."

We can leave the the Constiution alone. We just need to crown ALGORGED King since his Academia Award and Noblest Oblige Piece Prize are proof positive that he has the leadership, (anyone checked his EPA violations lately?)

Sarcasm off!

Marilyn vos Savant is my choice!

15 posted on 10/10/2007 5:53:31 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: shrinkermd
We need a new Constitution.

Why? We don't use the one we have.

16 posted on 10/10/2007 5:53:43 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: shrinkermd
libs have been skirting the Constitution with abandonment for years, now in order to scrape the whole thing....they set out to do just that...
Here’s a new wrinkle for libs...try following it for ten years, you might like it.
17 posted on 10/10/2007 5:54:03 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: shrinkermd

The Constitution isn’t broke, the politicians are. And the Constitution empowers we denizens to step up and clean house.


18 posted on 10/10/2007 5:54:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: shrinkermd
How about this:

The Federal Government, being a creature of the states, may not require of the states, their subordinate entities, corporations, or private persons, any any way, shape, manner, or form, the expenditure of any funds, for any purpose, without the provision of those funds by the Federal Government.

This would spell the death of unfunded mandates and a good part of creeping socialism.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

19 posted on 10/10/2007 5:54:49 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Uncle Ike
You beat me to it.

If we really want to make progress and achieve greater fairness as a society

ANYONE who reads this for what it is realizes what it means. Redistribution of wealth.

20 posted on 10/10/2007 5:54:56 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Richardson/Paul '08 - Sometimes this stuff just writes itself.)
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