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1 posted on 10/09/2007 5:03:33 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

We all have the same God. But some of us are not praying to God.


2 posted on 10/09/2007 5:06:35 AM PDT by Brilliant
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“I believe there is a universal God. I believe the God that the Muslim prays to is the same God that I pray to. After all, we all came from Abraham. I believe in that universality.”

Allah the demonic principality isn't the same as YHWH. Not even close.

I think Bush may be sensing the coming massive wave of Muslim conversions to Jesus, thus his comment-- but to say that they worship the same God, no.

Either that, or he's believing some new age crap that somebody told him.

3 posted on 10/09/2007 5:11:34 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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If you run John 3:16 by a Muslim and ask if them how they feel about it, they will tell you flat out that the god they worship has no son.

Tells me all I need to know.

4 posted on 10/09/2007 5:15:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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I believe in the Triune God of Christianity, not Allah.


5 posted on 10/09/2007 5:23:15 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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“…I believe in an almighty God, and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God.”

What ever happened to his Christian testimony? Was he lying or was he just spinning his theology to bait evangelicals?

6 posted on 10/09/2007 5:26:12 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: vietvet67

Wrong AGAIN, GWB!


7 posted on 10/09/2007 5:28:08 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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“I believe there is a universal God. I believe the God that the Muslim prays to is the same God that I pray to. After all, we all came from Abraham. I believe in that universality.”

Neither Islam nor the Arabs came from Abraham. This was an invention of Muhammed to abstract to his own religion a bit of the mojo of one of the two high-tech civilizations of the Arabian Peninsula.
8 posted on 10/09/2007 5:28:38 AM PDT by aruanan
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I sincerely hope that Bush is simply speaking out of ignorance.


10 posted on 10/09/2007 5:32:29 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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How can anyone who agrees with the Ten Commandments disagrees with the President's statement?

I agree Muslims don't pray to God the same way Christians do, but that does not mean they are not praying to the same God.

27 posted on 10/09/2007 6:19:07 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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Yes, the same God, whether they know it or not.... God knows what's in our hearts, regardless of who we think we're praying to.

I just can't get too worked up about this "controversy."

31 posted on 10/09/2007 6:44:05 AM PDT by r9etb
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This is almost the delusion of the Hindu..."All is one."

One must strain at a gnat to conclude that all pray to the same god. THe God of the Bible, whom Bush says he worships, is not Baal, the New Age Jesus, is not the Buddist notion of Brahman, is not the god of Shamanism or Nature Worhip (wiccan), is not the god of Mormonism, is not the god transendental meditation, is not the god Shakti or Shiva, or satan who is worshiped and prayed to, is not Allah, is not the god o Christian Science, is not the god of Unity, is not the god of Baba Ram Dass, is not the god of Myung Moon and Unification, is not he god of Bahaism, is not the god of Rosicrucianism, is not the god of Urantia, is not the god of Esalen, is not the god of mind sciences, is not the god ofthe Vedantia Society.....I could go on and on and on.

Mr. Bush shows profound ignorance in this silly statement. If it was a tepid attempt to coopt those who might see this gesture as magnanamous, the Christian sees it, at best flagrant ignorance of his Lord, or at worst a denial of the exclusive and unique position of Jesus of Nazareth as God the Son. As a Christian, and one who often references Christianity, he must know this and must have been willing to deny the Alpha and the Omega, the one and only God-man, Jesus.

"Many will come in my name, but believe them not."

Jim Jones claimed to be Christ.

"Many will come to me on tht day, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in ;your name drive out demons and in your name do many mighty works?" Then I will say to them, "Depart from me,I never knew you." Matt 7:22,23. This from the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. His attonement and His alone is sufficient. "the Way the TRUth , the Life...",

If Jesus is who Bush says He is, then the road to everlasting life must be broad, not narrow. Jesus said it was narrow.

I don't think we will all get to stand before our maker and claim an excuse of 'false identitiy'.....that is to say, ..."well I thought hinduism just as efficacious as buddism, as efficacious as true Christianity, or no different from Allah."

It is discouraging that Mr.Bush is this illinformed about his personal walk with whoever and whatever god he feels he walks with and then from his huge bully pulpit makes such a proclaimation. Remember Jannes and Jambrees who was in phaerohs court who, concerning some, proclaimed false pronouncements and led some astray......how many millions is Bush's pronouncement magnified. This is an irresponsible statement for any Christian, even an illinformed one, to make.

33 posted on 10/09/2007 6:46:30 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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God is not allah.

allah is not God.
(lack of capitalization intentional).

The West's only chance for survival is to destroy "allah", along with all that it represents, in the material world.

Otherwise, those who prostate themselves before allah will succeed in doing pretty much the same to us.

- John

41 posted on 10/09/2007 6:59:55 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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Galatians 3:16: The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.


49 posted on 10/09/2007 7:18:24 AM PDT by tabsternager
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Utter blasphemy!
56 posted on 10/09/2007 7:31:52 AM PDT by Tolkien (There are things more important than Peace. Freedom being one of those.)
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If Bush really said this then it simply proves my long-held assertion that he’s a panderer or an idiot. (But in Kerry-esque fashion, I voted for him before I detested him.)


77 posted on 10/09/2007 10:32:42 AM PDT by newguy357
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“...prays to the same God.”

No.


82 posted on 10/09/2007 3:53:40 PM PDT by Cindy
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I’m not smart enough to wrap my little mind around the idea of defining God. However, I do have an excellent guidepost for religion in general. Someone once told me, “By their fruits you shall know them.” Once someone can show me the Islamic equivalent to Mother Teresa or Albert Schweitzer, then I’ll begin practicing tolerance immediately. As long as the Moslems keeps telling me to convert or be killed, though, I’m mighty skeptical.


86 posted on 10/09/2007 5:41:55 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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