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Fred Thompson Bombs On Campaign Trail
CBS News ^ | Oct. 4, 2007 | Keach Hagey

Posted on 10/04/2007 10:04:34 AM PDT by presidio9

Yes, he's an actor. But that doesn't mean he can perform.

The New York Times presents a searing portrait of Fred Thompson's lackluster performance on the campaign trail, with the worst damage done within the quotes attributed to the candidate.

"Can I have a round of applause?" Thompson is forced to ask a silent Iowan audience at the end of his 24 minutes of remarks. After a rustle of clapping and some laughter, he grumbles, "Well, I had to drag that out of you."

Drag seems to be the operative word here. Iowans saw a "subdued, laconic candidate who spoke in a soft monotone, threw few elbows and displayed little drive to distinguish himself from opponents," the Times reported. After he spoke recently, "stillness engulfed the room."

It may be that Thompson doesn't talk loud because he's not too sure of what he's talking about. In an interview with Kay Henderson of Radio Iowa on Monday, he referred to the "Soviet Union and China." At the end of her blog post on the exchange, Henderson wrote, "No, I did not mistype. Thompson said Soviet Union rather than Russia."

None Dare Call It Torture

The New York Times stops just short of using the "T word," preferring to call it "severe interrogations." But let's not beat around the bush: Alberto Gonzales' Justice Department secretly approved torture -- even as it told the rest of the world it didn't, and as Congress was passing laws to ban torture

In a long investigative piece, the Times digs up two classified opinions issued by the department under Gonzales' reign to prove it.

The first, issued soon after Gonzales' arrival as attorney general in 2005, for the first time provided "explicit authorization to barrage terror suspects with a combination of painful physical and psychological tactics, including headslapping, simulated drowning and frigid temperatures."

(That "simulated drowning," by the way, is the technique known as waterboarding: "pouring water over a bound prisoner's cloth-covered face to induce fear of suffocation.")

Meanwhile, the department's official stand to the public was the one it issued in 2004, calling torture "abhorrent."

Later in 2005, as Congress moved toward outlawing "cruel, inhuman and degrading" treatment, the Justice Department issued another secret opinion declaring that none of the C.I.A. interrogation methods violated that standard.

If they didn't violate that standard, they at least produced some of the tainted results torture often yields: confessions to crimes the confessor probably didn't commit.

When the C.I.A. caught Khaid Sheikh Mohammed, the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks, interrogators were "haunted by uncertainty." They used a variety of "tough interrogation tactics" about 100 times over two weeks on the man known as K.S.M., and got all kinds of confessions. The problem is, intelligence officers say that "many of Mr. Mohammed's statements proved exaggerated or false."

Reacting to the Times story, a White House spokeswoman said: "Our intelligence agencies legally obtain information. This country does not torture."

Republicans Backing Away From Free Trade

What the heck is happening to the Republican Party? Right on the heels of news that business leaders are abandoning the GOP comes another discomforting poll from the Wall Street Journal: By a nearly two-to-one margin, Republican voters believe free trade is bad for the U.S. economy.

Six in 10 Republicans in the poll agreed with a statement that free trade has been bad fo the U.S. and said they would agree with a Republican candidate who favored tougher regulations on foreign imports. That represents a substantial shift from eight years ago, the Journal reports.

But no one gave the Republican presidential candidates the memo. They're all still campaigning on the party's traditional anti-protectionist platform.

Well, all except one. Ron Paul of Texas, who opposes the Iraq war and calls free-trade deals "a threat to our independence as a nation," announced yesterday that he raised $5 million in third-quarter donations. That nearly matches what one-time front-runner John McCain is expected to report.

The GOP's departure from its traditional stance is a bit puzzling to some, but a big clue to what's behind it can be found in this sentence: "In questions about a series of candidate stances, the only one drawing strong agreement from a majority of Republicans was opposition to abortion rights."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antifredhitpiece; axisofdesperation; fakebutaccurate; fred; laconic; thompson
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1 posted on 10/04/2007 10:04:36 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

As you know, I’m far from being a Fredhead. But this story sounds a bit fishy, NY Times style. Asking for applause?


2 posted on 10/04/2007 10:05:54 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: presidio9

Did anyone really expect the NYT to give a fair assessment anyway??? They know he’s the front runner and are totally feeding on the silly perceptions in various conservative circles (like here) that Fred has no fire. Completely predictable.


3 posted on 10/04/2007 10:06:38 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: pissant

I think CBS is bombing out


4 posted on 10/04/2007 10:07:10 AM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: pissant

I heard that he really did ask for applause. However, some of the people afterwards said they liked him. It wasn’t all negative.


5 posted on 10/04/2007 10:09:16 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: rintense; pissant; Rodm

Barak Obama is making mistakes left and right. So is Hillary Clinton for that matter. I’m waiting for the NYT or See BS to decide that one of those stories is major news.


6 posted on 10/04/2007 10:10:17 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Well, if CBS and the the NYT say that Fred isn’t setting the world on fire, I guess it must be true. I mean: why would they lie about something like that??


7 posted on 10/04/2007 10:10:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: presidio9

So the media doesn’t like what Fred has to say. Did anyone expect otherwise?

Personally, I’m quite pleased with what Fred has had to say for himself. And I’ll be voting in my State’s Republican primary. The author of this article will not.


8 posted on 10/04/2007 10:11:31 AM PDT by sourcery (Referring a "social conservative" to the Ninth Amendment is like showing the Cross to Dracula.)
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To: presidio9

Wishful thinking on the part of CBS.

What it really means is that they see him as a threat to Hillary.


9 posted on 10/04/2007 10:12:00 AM PDT by Columbine
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To: presidio9

If its from CBS it must be true.... LOL


10 posted on 10/04/2007 10:12:58 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: presidio9
Why is the left so worried about Fred Thompson?
11 posted on 10/04/2007 10:14:09 AM PDT by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney I guess Fred will have to do.)
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To: presidio9

See BS reports that:

The New York Times presents a searing portrait of Fred Thompson’s lackluster performance...

Yeah, like we’re really gonna believe that.......They must be terrified of and near panicked over Fred..................


12 posted on 10/04/2007 10:14:12 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: presidio9
I always liked Fred as a Senator, but watching a clip of him talking somewhere I only saw him from the waist up. Looked like his hands in his pockets all the time. Pacing back and forth in slow motion. Same expression on his face all the time.

But I guess I shouldn't have expected anything different as that is the way he was on Law and Order.

13 posted on 10/04/2007 10:15:04 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: presidio9

Another liberal hit piece posted on conservative Free Republic.

Like we don’t know See-BS and the NY Slimes are anti-Fred, anti-conservative and anti-Republican.


14 posted on 10/04/2007 10:15:23 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Go Yankees !!!)
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To: presidio9

The New York Times doesn’t know how to report any actual happening.
They only know how to spin a story.

I wouldn’t believe them if they said today was Thursday.


15 posted on 10/04/2007 10:16:07 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: presidio9
The New York Times presents a searing portrait of Fred Thompson's lackluster performance

The NY Times. . .now there's a reliable media outlet.

:::sarc tag in case its needed:::

16 posted on 10/04/2007 10:16:17 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: presidio9
Freepers, we DEFINITELY NEED freeper stringers to attend the events in their states where Fred appears. This way we can give lie to the lies of the leftist media about what happens.

I attended the Thompson banquet in New Port Richey, Florida and made a detailed report on this forum. Fred brought down the house before a politically-savvy audience. Many standing O's.

Woe betide anyone who spins and prevaricates if we have knowledgeable freepers in the audience who can string some words together to report the truth.

Leni

17 posted on 10/04/2007 10:16:32 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("I don't believe anything MoveOn.org or Rush Limbaugh says" (Geraldo Rivera))
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To: rintense

“They know he’s the front runner”? I don’t agree with just about anything the NYT says, but last I checked, he’s not the front runner. At least not now.


18 posted on 10/04/2007 10:16:56 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: presidio9

Fred Thompson Bombs On Campaign Trail

CBS News

The New York Times

No matter whom we are backing or NOT backing in the Repub race, can we PALEEZE stop quoting LIBERAL/COMMIE sources in order to slime Repub candidates?


19 posted on 10/04/2007 10:18:52 AM PDT by Grunthor (I'd be Catholic but I don't speak latin and don't wanna learn just to go to church.)
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To: presidio9

It’s very simple really. The press follow these candidates wherever they go. They see it all: the high points and the low points. If they don’t like a candidate, they are free to report every low point in excruciating, even embellished, detail, while reporting nothing positive in balance. By contrast, a candidate they like gets the opposite treatment: gaffes are overlooked, “uhs” and “ums” are edited from quotes, crowd sizes are juiced up, crowd reactions are amplified in the positive, etc.

If the MSM doesn’t want Fred, they’ll do whatever they can to make him look bad.


20 posted on 10/04/2007 10:20:26 AM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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