Posted on 10/03/2007 8:19:52 PM PDT by Flavius
WASHINGTON (AP) -- With one in four domestic flights arriving late this year, the airline industry is hearing from passengers and the government that patience is wearing thin.
Aviation officials are considering forcing carriers to shrink their flight schedules or to pay more to fly during peak travel periods, though the traveling public could end up with higher fares as a result.
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2 hours to get to plane 2 to get off 1 hr to fly if your not stuck someplace half across the country sitting forever
your better off driving , walking going with a horse
anything maybe use the river system like the colonial days
i really really dont like flying
Classic example of what you get in an unregulated market where people view the service as a commodity and shop only on price. Of course amenities and service deteriorate. What else would you expect?
BTW, I include myself as part of the problem. I shop air travel strictly on price.
It sucks.
The overstated importance of commercial air travel is one of the biggest scams going . Tax payers have subsidized this luxury for years . The governments grant of immunity to the airlines for their negligence on 9-11 was the last straw .
Air travel is one of the very least profitable industries.
It’s not like they’re pinching pennies to pad their bloated profits. They’re pinching pennies to try to stay in business.
Just curious. How were airlines negligent on 9/11?
I don't plan on flying commercially again until I can smoke on the airplane and carry a handgun.
I understand they can do that in Argentina. It may be time to move.
One word: Amtrak.
I hate flying too but that is totally unrealistic. Especially if you travel overseas as often as I do.
Not to mention that the economy would grind to a halt if it weren’t possible to get from one place to the other as quickly as a plane can get you there.
What are the most populated air routes in the USA? Find out and let rails help sans excessive government interference.
I don’t know about you, but I use astral projection... ;-P
Okay, just kidding. (obvious)
If carriers lied to you, they should be held accountable. However, the federal government regulated and controlled the actions airlines were allowed to take for security measures. I know of no government policy that would have authorized private security or even federal air marshals to engage in combat with multiple hijackers in flight.
There was a grand total of 33 air marshals on 9/10. I’m not sure why you thought these guys could cover the “vast majority” of flights, of which there are something like 25,000 to 30,000 per day in the US.
Do you seriously believe that use of airliners as cruise missiles was a “known risk” prior to 9/11? As far as I know, only one person even brought up the possibility, Tom Clancy in one of his novels, and that was a cargo jet flown by a crazed pilot, not a hijacked commercial airliner.
Prior to 9/11 the vast majority of hijacked airliners flew around for a few hours or days and then the passengers were released, more or less unharmed. Don’t you remember all the directions to stay calm and not escalate the situation by opposing the hijackers?
Sounds to me like you are operating from a severe case of hindsight. I have never seen any evidence that an airline, operating within the parameters of federal law at the time, could have done anything to prevent any of the hijackings.
Otherwise, I use one of these. If I'm driving between Austin or Houston and Dallas, it's almost no contest. I can literally drop someone off at DFW airport (if they're flying AA) and meet them at the Houston airport just as they step out of the terminal. Been there, done that twice.
More comfortable than AA or SWA, too - but SWA is actually cheaper than driving. AA almost never is.
Not gonna happen. Many of the most flown routes are from the NE to CA, a good 3,000 miles. That takes something like 5 hours in the air. NYC to LA takes 4 days on Amtrak. (Assuming it runs on time, which if it ever happened would be major news.)
Rail works well in Western Europe, where distances between cities are much smaller.
You are mostly right .
Same here. I always laugh at the people who have maybe flown once or twice in their lifetime telling me that not flying is a realistic option. Not for me. I fly commercially no less than 6 round trips a year and overseas at least once a year. I depend on reliable air travel. So do a lot of other people.
I've taken Amtrak 4 times from the Midwest to the West Coast. Oddly, every single time they have been EARLY....sometimes, the train actually parked for awhile to avoid being too early for stops. I swear from all of the stories that I've heard, I must be the only person who has experienced this level of service.
My favorite is the people who blame the security personnel for not stopping the hijackings. Up to the moment they started cutting throats, they had not broken any laws and security had no legal right to stop them boarding. AAMOF, a security person who stopped them could probably have been fired or prosecuted for racial profiling or discrimination.
I personally carried a Leatherman with two 3.5 inch blades on airplanes for 15 years. Security seldom even looked at it. The few times they did, they only measured the blades to make sure they were below the legal 4”. B4 9/11 I always wondered why they thought a knife had to be over 4” long to be dangerous. Hadn’t they heard of scalpels?
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