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”His boat took 188 enemy hits”: Another Kerry Swift Boat story surfaces
Original FReeper research citing Times-News (Burlington, NC) | 09/30/2007 | Fedora

Posted on 09/30/2007 1:28:52 PM PDT by Fedora

”His boat took 188 enemy hits”: Another Kerry Swift Boat story surfaces

By Fedora

During the 2004 campaign, John Kerry faced a firestorm of controversy over the events surrounding the awarding of his third Purple Heart and his Bronze Star. One inconsistency investigators noticed was that although military documents described Kerry’s Swift Boat team as facing “about 5000 meters” of enemy fire while travelling down a 75-yard-wide stretch of the Bay Hap River, there was no record of any bullet damage to craft or crew. Not publicized in 2004 was another discrepancy magnifying this issue: while Kerry was making his first Congressional run in fall 1972, newspapers around the country ran stories by reporter Tom Tiede claiming that Kerry’s boat “took 188 enemy hits”.

On October 25, 1972, page 18D of the Burlington, North Carolina Times-News carried an article by Tiede titled “John F. Kerry. . .The Candidate Who’s Got It All Going” which stated:

Kerry, you'll recall, is the thrice-wounded Vietnam naval veteran (his boat took 188 enemy hits) who brought GIs to the front lines of antiwar battle in 1969.

Versions of Tiede’s article echoing this “188 enemy hits” claim appeared in the Wisconsin Rapids Daily Tribune on October 25, 1972, in the Danville, Virginia Register on October 26, 1972, and in the Uniontown, Pennsylvania Evening Standard on November 1, 1972.

Declassified military records of the incident in question make no reference to these “188 enemy hits”, and what is recorded raises questions about how this story got started.

The incident involved five Swift Boats, which had moved near the Bay Hap River’s banks to maneuver around a fishing weir. Moving along the left side of the river was PCF-3 under Lieutenant Dick Pees, followed by PCF-23 under Lieutenant Jack Chenoweth. On the right side were PCF-94 under Kerry’s command and PCF-43 under Lieutenant Donald Droz. Trailing behind both pairs of boats near the center of the river was PCF-51 under Lieutenant Larry Thurlow, the patrol’s mission commander. Also travelling with the patrol were members of a Special Forces team.

As the boats were passing the weir, a mine went off. Discrepancies surround what damage was caused by the explosion, as well as whether or not the explosion was followed by enemy fire.

The Naval paperwork on the incident was probably filed by Kerry, judging by Kerry’s 1971 Senate testimony and the recollection of other Swift Boat veterans. Additional paperwork for Special Forces was probably filed by Lieutenant James Rassmann, who often performed this duty for his unit.

The after-action report released during the 2004 campaign describes a mine going off “UNDER PCF-3” and “CLOSE ABOARD PCF-94”. Elsewhere it states, “MINE DETONATED UNDER PCF-3. . .TWO OTHER MINE EXPLOSIONS”. However, the boat damage report lists no damage to PCF-3 but severe damage to PCF-94, which is described as having its wiring, generator, steering, and bilge pump in inoperable condition. Yet despite describing PCF-94 as being in this condition, the report states that “94 TOWED PCF 3 AS BUCKET BRIGADE CONTROLLED FLOODING”.

The after-action report describes mine explosion injuries to several crew members of PCF-3, but Kerry is the only one on PCF-94 listed with mine explosion injuries. There are no descriptions of bullet damage to any craft or crew.

The after-action report and casualty report state that “KERRY SUFFERED SHRAPNEL WOUNDS IN HIS LEFT BUTTOCKS AND CONTUSIONS ON HIS RIGHT FOREARM WHEN A MINE DETONATED CLOSE ABOARD PCF-94”. The after-action report characterizes Kerry’s right forearm injury as “MINOR”. The recommendation for Kerry’s Bronze Star--submitted by Kerry’s commanding officer Lieutenant Commander George Elliott and citing as an eyewitness Kerry’s second-in-command Del Sandusky--elaborates that a mine “detonated close aboard PCF-94, knocking 1st LT RASSMAN into the water and wounding LTJG KERRY in the right arm. . .LTJG KERRY. . .managed to pull LT RASSMAN aboard despite the painful wound in his right arm.” Kerry’s Bronze Star citation, originally written by Admiral Elmo Zumwalt and later revised under Secretary of the Navy John Lehman’s signature, substitutes for the above-mentioned contusions the detail that Kerry’s arm was “bleeding”.

However Kerry’s contemporary war journal, cited in a 2004 biography by Douglas Brinkley, indicates that his shrapnel injury actually came from an earlier rice-bin explosion, not the mine explosion. Prior to the mine explosion, Kerry’s Swift Boat team had assisted its Special Forces counterparts in clearing a village suspected of harboring Viet Cong. While the Green Berets were blowing up rice bins, “I got a piece of small grenade in my ass from one of the rice bin explosions,” Kerry recorded.

Eyewitness accounts help explain some of the other discrepancies surrounding Kerry’s injuries. James Rassmann told the Boston Globe on August 6, 2004 that it was his understanding that Kerry’s arm wound was caused by the mine explosion throwing Kerry into his boat’s pilot house. Two witnesses to Kerry’s arm injury, Van Odell and Jack Chenoweth, contend that Kerry’s arm was not bleeding. This is consistent with the after-action and casualty reports’ characterization of Kerry’s arm injury as “contusions”. If Kerry’s arm had been hit by a bullet, it seems likely he would have suffered bleeding rather than contusions. This may suggest that later paperwork revisions characterizing his arm as “bleeding” were an attempt to reconcile his wound with the claim that his injury was caused by gunfire.

Discrepancies surrounding the mine explosion and resulting boat damage remain to be explained. Kerry and Rassmann gave inconsistent accounts about which boat was over the mine when it went off, contradicting other eyewitnesses and compounding the confusion in the documentary record.

In a eulogy for Swift Boat gunner Tom Belodeau in 1997, Kerry recalled that it was a mine exploding under his own boat which knocked a Green Beret overboard. But Brinkley’s 2004 biography recorded Kerry’s recollection that when Rassmann fell overboard he was sitting on another boat across the river, PCF-3. A Kerry campaign press release from January 17, 2004 introduced Rassmann as “traveling down the Bay Hap river in a boat behind Kerry’s when both were ambushed by exploding land mines and enemy fire coming from the shore.” However when Rassmann spoke to the Democratic National Convention in July 2004, he described his memory of eating a cookie on Kerry’s boat when a mine knocked him into the water.

At least four witnesses from other boats only recalled a mine going off under PCF-3, not under Kerry’s boat. In interviews PCF-3 skipper Dick Pees recalled sitting in his disabled boat, and PCF-23 skipper Jack Chenoweth recalled having to slam his engines into reverse to avoid running into PCF-3. PCF-23 gunner Van Odell and mission commander Larry Thurlow supported this account of the incident.

Witnesses were divided over whether there was hostile gunfire or rocket fire. Most of Kerry’s crewmates, two witnesses from other boats, and Rassmann recalled what they interpreted as hostile fire. At least ten witnesses from other boats disputed this.

Kerry’s PCF-94 crewmates David Alston, Eugene Thorson, Michael Medeiros, and Del Sandusky recalled hostile fire, as did Rassmann. Alston was later discredited when it was demonstrated that he was not present at events he claimed to have witnessed.

PCF-43 gunner Wayne Langhofer recalled, “There was a lot of firing going on, and it came from both sides of the river.” PCF-51 crewman Robert Lambert also interpreted bullets he saw striking the water as coming from hostile fire.

However, Pees, Thurlow, Chenoweth, Odell, PCF-43 gunner Robert Hornberger, and others present recalled no hostile fire. Odell elaborated,

As the 3 boat passed the weir on the narrowest part of the river it was hit by a mine, which lifted it completely out of the water. I immediately began firing my twin 50’s towards river left to suppress any fire. I fired a couple of hundred rounds and realized we were not receiving any return fire from either bank. The other boats quit firing and we commenced rescue operations for the PCF-3 crew and boat. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FIRE FROM EITHER BANK. Our boat picked up members of the disabled PCF-3.

Others present similarly recalled firing at the banks but observing no return fire.

Some witnesses reported that after the mine went off, Kerry’s boat accelerated ahead out of the kill zone for a few minutes before returning. This would have meant the other boats were shooting at the banks from behind Kerry’s boat as it sped away, which may help account for the difference in perception between Kerry’s crew members and other witnesses. Likewise, it is easy to see how Rassmann and Lambert could have interpreted the Swift Boat team’s precautionary fire as enemy fire.

But whether there was enemy fire or not, it is difficult to conceive how Kerry could have pulled Rassmann out of the water while his boat was sustaining 188 enemy hits, or how his boat could have sustained 188 hits without suffering any recorded bullet damage, or how his boat could have helped tow PCF-3 after sustaining 188 hits. And it may be difficult for Kerry to explain why no reference to these 188 hits appeared in military records predating publicity for his 1972 Congressional campaign.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bronzestar; bs; huntsisdelicious; johnkerry; kerry; pompoustwitalert; purpleheart; swiftboat; swiftboatvets; tryhuntsketchup; unfit; unfitforcommand
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To: Fedora
He wore those so that way in case his Swift Boat sunk, he could wade to safety without having to change pants.

He should have changed those socks....GEEZ!

His plan didn't work, he got a Purple Heart anyway (probably for wetting his own pants....and developing a nasty rash....)

81 posted on 09/30/2007 4:16:04 PM PDT by dirtbiker (I'm a liberal's worst nightmare: a redneck with a pickup, a library card, and a conceal carry permit)
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To: grey_whiskers
"By this time my lungs were aching for air. . ."
82 posted on 09/30/2007 4:18:49 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Nathan Zachary
Now wait a minute, Kerry is a war hero. He and other antiwar protestors are honored with a plaque in the War Museum in Hanoi for helping to undermine the American war effort and ensure a Commie victory in S. Vietnam.

You notice this dirtbag never mentions that particular award.
83 posted on 09/30/2007 4:21:25 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: Fedora
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booo...


Yooo Hooo... I'm over HERE!!!
84 posted on 09/30/2007 4:28:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Fedora
"His boat took 188 enemy hits"

I find that extremely hard to believe!

85 posted on 09/30/2007 4:28:05 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: Fedora
There was also no after-action report filed after the first PH incident. Since that is the sine qua non for awarding a PH, the big mystery is how could it have been awarded without the required documentation.

LCDR Grant Hibbard, Kerry's supervisor in the chain of command, refused to put him in for it despite Kerry's request. Dr. Letson, who described the "wound" as similar to a thorn from a rosebush and self-inflicted. The bottom line is that you need both a medical report and an after action report substantiating that there was hostile fire. To me, the first PH is Kerry's achilles heel if we could ever get the Navy Department to release all of the information. I would bet that Kerry falsified an after action report morre than a month later at his new command.

86 posted on 09/30/2007 4:36:37 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Baynative
ROFL! Featuring John Kerry's cover of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds":

Picture yourself in Cambodia for Christmas

Bronze stars are twinkling in purple-heart skies

A Green Beret calls you, you pull him in slowly

And make up kaleidoscope lies--

Kerry in a boat with medals. . .

87 posted on 09/30/2007 4:41:02 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: dirtbiker

He inherited the socks when the Wicked Witch of the East got crushed by a house. Kerry put in a Purple Heart for that, too, on the grounds he was the closest surviving relative.


88 posted on 09/30/2007 4:51:23 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Chode

I actually got a tall oval pumpkin for Halloween 2004, and carved it to look like Kerry :-) He looks kinda like the Scarecrow in the bottom pic there.


89 posted on 09/30/2007 4:53:16 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: kabar
I agree the first PH paperwork would be vital. I don't know if they had any luck prying it loose during any of the litigation with Kerry and his supporters that followed the publication of Unfit for Command--I hadn't heard they did, but I believe there's another lawsuit pending, so there may be an opportunity there. Apart from that, I don't know how one might go about getting it in the public realm.
90 posted on 09/30/2007 4:58:16 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

The correlation between Odell’s “I fired a couple of hundred rounds...” and 188 hits would suggest that those numbers may have a relationship. I don’t know how .50 cal was packaged or requisitioned. Any way you look at it, it adds another notch to the Fraud.


91 posted on 09/30/2007 5:21:08 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, the amoral party of what if and whine.)
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To: Fedora
Nice find.

It isn't clear to me from the quotes that "188 hits" refers to the March 17, 1969 Bay Hap River event. Another possibility is that it's part of the Kerry/Alston effort to give Kerry credit for the Jan. 29 1969 engagement in which gunner Alston and PCF-94 skipper Tedd Peck were wounded, just before Kerry took over the boat.

Then again, the "188 hits" may not be connected to any actual event. This is John Kerry we're talking about, after all...

92 posted on 09/30/2007 5:58:35 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: sonic109

When I think of Kerry I think of Heinz Ketchup. I don’t buy it anymore either.


93 posted on 09/30/2007 6:05:55 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Fedora

good to see you Fedora!


94 posted on 09/30/2007 6:07:05 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: depressed in 06
The correlation between Odell’s “I fired a couple of hundred rounds...” and 188 hits would suggest that those numbers may have a relationship.

I wondered about that. There's nothing in the paperwork indicating anyone counted any bullets, though, and as Odell's comment indicates, if you're going to give a round estimate of bullets, you'd use a number like "a couple hundred", not something as specific as "188". It's very strange any way you cut it.

95 posted on 09/30/2007 6:15:38 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

bump


96 posted on 09/30/2007 6:27:16 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Dem-conomics 101: Overtax the productive and distribute to the wasteful. (ref: TFLABO))
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To: Interesting Times
This is John Kerry we're talking about, after all...

Yes, definitely, LOL. The rest of the article doesn't add any details to what I quoted which would tie it to a specific event. In context, the article is basically a promotional piece for Kerry, and the purpose of mentioning the "188 hits" is to bolster the Kerry=JFK image (another version of the article was titled "John F. Ken...Ah...Kerry"), rather than to provide any details about specific combat actions, so it's skimpy on the type of detail we're interested in. Since it refers to Kerry as "thrice-wounded", though, it would seem like it's referring to one of the three events associated with Kerry's Purple Hearts, and the Bay Hap River incident seems like the only one of those involving anything resembling Kerry's boat being fired at. When did Kerry and/or Alston first talk about the January 29, 1969 engagement?--did Kerry ever mention it before the 2004 campaign?

97 posted on 09/30/2007 6:29:09 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
Kerry. . .like the soldier he was in Vietnam; would never put himself; willingly. . .in a position where he must defend himself. Rush would lay him flat with the truth; and Kerry knows he is no match for the truth of anything; and certainly, not his own.

The lengths the Left goes to implement it's smears is getting to be very short, indeed. Can only wonder what they have in store as we approach Elections.

I wonder. . .but truly, cannot imagine.

98 posted on 09/30/2007 6:29:26 PM PDT by cricket
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To: RDTF

You, too, RDTF! :-)


99 posted on 09/30/2007 6:30:01 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: cricket

Yes, Rush would hurt him. Kerry will only engage in a controlled debate, not one where he can get caught off-guard. He’s a good prepared debater, he’s not good on his feet. He’d be especially vulnerable on something like this because he’s told so many lies, he probably doesn’t even remember the truth anymore, and someone well-versed in the facts would bewilder him.

I agree they are planning a major dirty trick for the election. They can’t afford to let the media focus on something like the Hsu scandal, so they’ll try to distract the public with a counter-scandal, is my expectation.


100 posted on 09/30/2007 6:35:03 PM PDT by Fedora
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