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Leading indicators point down for GOP
AP ^ | September 29, 2007 | David Espo

Posted on 09/29/2007 4:27:18 PM PDT by CheyennePress

WASHINGTON - It is gallows humor time for Republicans in Congress, where one lawmaker jokes that "there's talk about us going the way of the Whigs," the 19th century political party long extinct.

"That's not going to happen," Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., hastens to add, although a little more than a year before the 2008 election, the major leading political indicators still point downward for a party abruptly turned out of power in 2006.

Fundraising for Republican campaign organizations lags. That is strikingly so in the House, where the party committee spent more than it raised in each of the past two months, reported only $1.6 million in the bank at the end of August and a debt of nearly $4 million.

Democrats reported $22.1 million in the bank and a debt of slightly more than $3 million.

Candidate recruitment has been uneven, particularly in the Senate, where Republicans must defend 22 of the 34 seats on the ballot next year. Democrats boast top-tier challengers for GOP-held seats in Colorado, Virginia, New Hampshire, Maine, Minnesota and Oregon.

Republicans have yet to put forward a prominent challenger for any Democratic-held seat, although an announcement is expected soon in Louisiana.

Additionally, nine Republicans in the House and three in the Senate have announced plans to retire. Some of those leaving are in midcareer, when a departure often signals pessimism about the prospects for regaining the majority. Democratic retirements total two to date — both are House members who are running for the Senate.

"The Democrats will continue to be the majority party in the House and Senate and Hillary Clinton will make history by being the first woman president" in 2008, predicts Rep. Ray LaHood, one of three Illinois Republicans to announce his retirement so far.

What makes LaHood's prediction stand out is his willingness to say it publicly.

Numerous other Republican lawmakers, aides and strategists said Democrats appear headed for two more years in power in Congress, but they declined to say so on the record.

Despite their difficulties, Republicans are not deep in the minority. A switch of 16 seats would give them control of the House next year; a change of one or two seats could deliver the Senate.

Despite the GOP's worst defeat since the Watergate era of the 1970s, Republican Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma said recently, "We have more seats than Ronald Reagan had on his best day."

He added that Republicans have a better chance of winning a House majority in 2008 than they do of capturing the Senate or the White House. Sen. John Ensign of Nevada, chairman of the GOP senatorial committee, offered no response.

But Cole's job performance as head of the House GOP political arm is under internal challenge. In a recent private leadership meeting, Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, sought the dismissal of the group's two top campaign aides, saying the committee lacked aggressiveness.

Cole refused and said he would quit first before firing the staff. Boehner, the party leader, backed down, at least temporarily, but may yet seek to install a senior aide at the committee. The officials who discussed the events did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss private conversations.

After a long turn in power in Congress, LaHood and other Republicans say the change in fortunes is partly the result of historical cycles. "The American people like a change," he said.

At the same time, President Bush's approval is stuck in the mid-30s and the Iraq war remains unpopular with the public.

Nor have the ethics woes that plagued the party in last year's elections abated. Corruption investigations swirl around Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens and California Rep. John Doolittle. To the particular distress of party leaders, Idaho Sen. Larry Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct last summer in an airport men's room sex sting operation and has yet to make good on an earlier pledge to resign.

Stevens and Doolittle deny all wrongdoing, as does Craig, who has asked a Minnesota judge to permit him to withdraw his guilty plea.

Polls, too, chart the decline of the Republicans.

A recent Gallup poll reported that 59 percent of those surveyed have an unfavorable impression of the Republican Party. By a margin of 47-42 percent, they said Democrats will do a better job of protecting against terrorism and military threats. Asked which party would better maintain prosperity, the majority preferred the Democrats, 54-34.

Despite their woes, numerous Republicans say they may have weathered the worst of it.

The race for the 2008 presidential nomination may sort itself out as early as February, they say, giving the party a new face months before the elections.

"Whoever it is, it won't be George W. Bush," said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. "I deeply admire the president, but many Americans have a somewhat unmovable impression of the president at this point," he added.

Others predict Clinton will win her party's nomination for the White House and say her polarizing effect on the voters will benefit GOP candidates in swing areas currently held by Democrats.

"A Clinton candidacy would help energize Republicans to go out and vote in down-ballot races," said Glen Bolger, a Republican pollster working in House and Senate campaigns. "It will help the Republican case for divided government."

Pence also said the military situation in Iraq is improving, and that a looming spending struggle between Bush and the Democrats should help reassure conservative voters who have become disaffected.

But efforts to draw clear distinctions with the Democrats can cut both ways.

Senate Republicans from New Hampshire, Maine, Oregon and Minnesota, who face particularly tough races in 2008, all voted in recent days for a children's health care bill that Bush has pledged to veto.

"I just do not understand his decision, and I think it would be terrible," said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine. She faces a challenge from Rep. Tom Allen, D-Maine.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; dailywhine; gop; melsfault; shootingselfinfoot; tomdavis
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To: CheyennePress

It’s an AP story carried by Yahoo. Both leftist. What do you expect from them, the truth? The sad part is people who believe the MSM.


61 posted on 09/29/2007 6:48:10 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Paperdoll

If the Conservatives cannot recapture the control of the GOP, or at least gain healthy and fair recognition, I think that it is time for traditional Conservatives to form a new party.


“NO! Not a third party! You waste your vote! AHHHH!!!!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!” - Typical Republican (not conservative) Freeper.


62 posted on 09/29/2007 6:50:42 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: mdmathis6
Yours is one of the most insightful posts I have seen in a long time.

If, as I suspect, the economy has weakened or, even if only the existing perception that the economy is week grows, the Republicans will be swept away in a tsunami of massive proportions.


63 posted on 09/29/2007 7:14:11 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: roamer_1

Luckily, we have a good conservative with a shot at the nomination; Fred Thompson. He’s not the ultra-conservative many here would like, but that kind of candidate would never get elected in the General, and they know it, but don’t want to admit it. He’s conservative enough for most conservatives, and not so scary that folks who generally won’t support a conservative WILL vote for him. Heck, he may even pull in some Democrats who can’t stand the thought of Her Heinous in the White House.


64 posted on 09/29/2007 7:21:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: CheyennePress

“A recent Gallup poll reported that 59 percent of those surveyed have an unfavorable impression of the Republican Party.”

That is worse than Hillary.

GOP brand is not popular, right now.

Internal dissention, name calling isn’t helping.


65 posted on 09/29/2007 7:28:42 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: SuziQ
folks who generally won’t support a conservative WILL vote for him.

We shall see. I do not believe you are correct.

66 posted on 09/29/2007 7:37:46 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: truth_seeker

Untill the republicans prove they are conservative; RINOS can go crying back to NYC; I won’t vote for a Liberal (and they won’t get ANY money off me!).


67 posted on 09/29/2007 7:45:23 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38; Paperdoll
I think yours are some of the most pertinent statements I have seen.. (and thought about)!
68 posted on 09/29/2007 7:47:31 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: CheyennePress

THEY ? Who is THEY ? Polls are crap. Never have I ever been asked to participate in a poll from a pollster or the MSM.

They conduct a poll in a major city all yer gonna get is the DNC liberal welfare rats opinion and if this poll is true then even some of them are for the GOP.....

The only thing killing the GOP if at all is their pandering to the amnesty , gun grabbing , keep the hate alive , American hating ass-hats who consist only in the MSM’s live at five reports and seditious polidiots legislation.

Fence setting moderate conservatives need to stop shoveling rino sh*t to the sheeple and stop trying to save the world while they destroy our beloved republic.

And if you believe that childrens health care crap for one minute .....gheeeesh. That was nothing less than a bag of manure BS bill, placed on GW’s porch , set afire and they ran knowing full and well what the heck that was gonna do when he stomped it out........


69 posted on 09/29/2007 8:03:34 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

>BUILD THE DARN FENCE.<

I think you are the closest of everyone so far but even you didn’t mention the 30 million illegal aliens walking our streets.

Bush sold the GOP down the river and hugged El Presidente Fox when he did it.


70 posted on 09/29/2007 8:34:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: Squantos

I live in a small city/town in the West and I have participated in political polls carried out by phone.

Also, for a few years my family was included in surveys about new tv shows. We were called and asked to turn our cable tv to a channel at a certain time, and then watched a pilot show before it appeared on the regular schedule. After the pilot was over, they called and did a phone survey about our opinion. They were interested in all family members opinions.


71 posted on 09/29/2007 8:48:16 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: lawnguy
Lawnguy,

I don't vote for Democrats, and I don't vote for Republicans who want to be Democrats. If you think that the Rockefeller Republicans with the help of Independents can win anything, you're in for a major surprise.

Sorry, but you can't fool me on what happened to Santorum because I live in PA and I watched what Theresa Heinz and Soros' $ did to poison the Reagan Democrats against him. Took them 4 1/2 yrs. of daily articles in local papers flying under the MSM radar, AND the right candidate with a trusted name and a make-believe conservative record to do it.

Look for even bigger losses of House seats in '06 in PA because with the help of Bob Filner who is Chairman of VA committee, they are running a scam, sort of a daily crusade to undermine anybody running who is supportive of the war, the VA, veterans, or anything to do with the military. I'm sure they are doing their orchestrated effort in other states too, but I'm only aware of what goes on in my state. And they're doing it without the silly pink loons of Code Pink who would do nothing but offend people in my state.

72 posted on 09/29/2007 9:08:10 PM PDT by penowa
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To: CheyennePress
The tide is going in the wrong direction for the GOP, fund raising says it all.

I don’t believe it is anything other than most people want a change period. People will not plunk down hard earned money on a guaranteed looser.

73 posted on 09/30/2007 7:10:18 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: CheyennePress
Yes of course an 11% approval rating does bode ill for the GOP! Wait the 11% approval is for the rat controlled House. HMMMMMMMMM maybe the “experts” are wrong. The beast’s 49/43 against among Independents and her 45% “I’d never vote for her” also bodes ill for the GOP as well! PLEEEEEEEEZE.
74 posted on 09/30/2007 8:10:41 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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