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His mentor turns on bin Laden
International Herald Tribune ^ | September 21, 2007 | Fawaz A. Gerges

Posted on 09/22/2007 11:41:12 PM PDT by bad company

After Osama bin Laden reappeared on the world's television screens on the sixth anniversary of 9-11, commentaries focused on his newly blackened beard and his changed message. But more important was the reaction of a Saudi cleric. In an open letter, one of bin Laden's most prominent Saudi mentors, the preacher and scholar Salman al-Oadah, publicly reproached bin Laden for causing widespread mayhem and killing. "How many innocent children, elderly people, and women have been killed in the name of Al Qaeda?" asked al-Oadah in a letter on his Web site, Islamtoday.com, and in comments on an Arabic television station. "How many people have been forced to flee their homes, and how much blood has been shed in the name of Al Qaeda?" Al-Oadah is a prominent Salafi preacher with a large following in Saudi Arabia and abroad. In the 1990s, he was imprisoned by the Saudi regime along with four leading clerics for criticizing the kingdom's close relationship with the United States, particularly the stationing of American troops there after the 1991 Gulf war. It is worth noting that the decision to post American forces in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, was the catalyst for bin Laden's murderous journey. Throughout the 1990s, he frequently cited al-Oadah as a critic of the Saud royal family and fellow Salafi who shared his strict religious vision and world view.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aloadah; alqaeda; alqaida; binladen; globaljihad; gwot; internet; jihad; salmanaloadah; sixthanniversary; ubl; videotape; wot
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1 posted on 09/22/2007 11:41:13 PM PDT by bad company
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To: bad company

He’s a goner, for sure.


2 posted on 09/22/2007 11:46:20 PM PDT by Dallas
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To: bad company

I pick HIM for my Islamic dead pool!!!


3 posted on 09/23/2007 12:00:45 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: bad company

This is the beginning of the end for Laden IMO.

This is very big. Finally a prominent Muslim leader has said pretty much what we’ve all been thinking. Killing women and children, other innocents, does not endear people to the Islamic cause.

This guy went further and condemned the actions of the terrorists on 09/11, blaming Laden directly. He pretty much blamed everything since on him too.

Not only that, he asks Laden to consider if this is what he wants to take with him when he dies. Yikes. This guy took Laden apart.

Dang, take that democraps. The good news just keeps on rolling by.

Bush’s surge has accomplished what seems to be a sea change in Iraq, and the region. It goes to prove something else that I had been thinking for a long time (a lot of others here too). All negativism from the marxist wing of the democrat party (pretty much the whole thing these days), was causing the Iraqis to be tentative about throwing their suport behind the U.S. Once we showed resolve, they percieved it, and started coming our direction in droves.

Ried and Pelosi are going to be deeply saddened.

Even so, if they have one brain cell left, they’ll keep their mouths shut, and allow the benefits of the surge to blossom into the end of Al Qaeda in Iraq.

This is an important time, and any negativism whatsoever could blow it. Ried, Pelosi and company must zip it, now more than ever.

Spend time on other matters Ried and Pelosi. Just keep your yaps shut on the war. If you tarnish our rep in the Middle-East now, you’ll have demaged our cause more than you could ever imagine.


4 posted on 09/23/2007 12:02:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: bad company
Good! Thank you for posting this. I hope this letter does much to bring diaray to Al Qaeda in Iraqi. May it also encourage some of bin Laden followers to think of all the good (hospitals, schools, etc) they can do with $25 million and turn him in.

To those who say Muslims don't do good, I will remind you that all men think of themselves as the hero.
5 posted on 09/23/2007 12:03:00 AM PDT by Talking_Mouse (O Lord, destroy Islam by converting the Muslims to Christianity.)
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To: Captainpaintball

You could just win that sucker.

When leading Islamicists come out against Laden, it’s a green light for dedicated men to out him. We could get a tip within days.

It will be very interesting to see if other leaders come out to condemn Laden now. Wouldn’t that be great.

Sorry Dems... (LOL)


6 posted on 09/23/2007 12:05:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 1717: "SAUDI CLERIC SALMAN AL-ODEH SLAMS 'BROTHER' OSAMA BIN LADEN, WARNS HIM HE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS OF MILLIONS, REMINDS HIM HE MUST FACE ALLAH" (Note: Video included.) (September 20, 2007)

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7 posted on 09/23/2007 12:07:41 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Bump, bump, bump!


8 posted on 09/23/2007 12:14:19 AM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: bad company

4 am bump! ‘-)


9 posted on 09/23/2007 12:14:27 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: txflake

Thank you txflake.


10 posted on 09/23/2007 12:15:08 AM PDT by Cindy
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It is worth noting that the decision to post American forces in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, was the catalyst for bin Laden's murderous journey.

Barbara Streisand- we put US troops in Saudi Arabia in the Gulf War- al Qaeda was formed in 1988, years before... and it was simply an umbrella group composed of older organizations. [And before al-Qaeda, bin Laden belonged to another group led by Azzam - the MAK, or "office of services." Azzam himself was originally a PLO man.] The terror charity associated with al Qaeda, Benevolence International, got its start in the late 1980s.

Bin Laden's murderous journey had little to do with our posting of troops in Saudi Arabia but a lot to do with his realization that if a world power like the USSR could be defeated then the USA was also vulnerable, a view reinforced by our notorious habit of abandoning allies and running away at the first sign of setback. Bin Laden noted our retreat from Vietnam, from Tehran, from Beirut, from Iraq where we left Saddam Hussein in power, from Somalia where al Qaeda hit us early on, making Clinton pull us out tail between our legs, the USS Cole, etc. The catalyst for Bin Laden's murderous journey was simply demonstration after demonstration of American weakness.

11 posted on 09/23/2007 12:21:35 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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...the catalyst for Bin Laden’s ideological demise is simply demonstration after demonstration of American resolve.


12 posted on 09/23/2007 12:24:23 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: DoughtyOne
Israel reducing Syria's (and by proxy, Iran's) air defense has brought the weight of the Arab world crashing down on radical Islam, and the richer-than-God Middle Eastern guys are all down for $$$ this.

They all understand - yet Saudia Arabia, Iran, Syria do not - that it's bad business to be killing off your customers.

13 posted on 09/23/2007 12:30:11 AM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: piasa

BIG DITTO.


14 posted on 09/23/2007 12:37:38 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: txflake

I agree. And I have to say, the day we can stop pouring money into the Middle-East, will be one of the best days in our nation’s history.


15 posted on 09/23/2007 12:39:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: bad company
For the first time in his address to the American people, bin Laden borrowed the language of Marx and antiglobalization to try to galvanize Americans against their purported tormentors - big capital, multinationals and globalization.

LOL - yeah, that worked so well during the Cold War.
16 posted on 09/23/2007 12:43:44 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: DoughtyOne
Not to sound bubbly, but Sept. 6 really was VI-Day.

It's all over but the screaming.

Of course the sudden-jihadists still have to be rounded up, but it's time to celebrate, yet nobody even knows it but us and those like us.

17 posted on 09/23/2007 12:50:49 AM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: bad company

Don’t forget Obama would be more than happy to meet Osama and “talk”. I’ll leave any further comments to Jackie Mason.


18 posted on 09/23/2007 1:23:00 AM PDT by generalhammond
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To: bad company

The reason for his statement is simple.

When Al Qaida was just killing infidels they were OK. Now they are killing Moslems and that is not OK.

Anyway I have to agree that this is a sign of the end for Al Qaida. It shows they are losing support with those who have done the most to build them up. Though I imagine they will still get plenty of support from the truly radicalized Moslems and idiots in the west like George Soros, Tereza Heinz-Kerry, Babs Streisand, jerry Cohen, Stephen Bing and all the other billion/millionaires in the west.


19 posted on 09/23/2007 1:42:03 AM PDT by Nahanni
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To: bad company

Horses-barn door

Skillet-black


20 posted on 09/23/2007 1:50:12 AM PDT by saganite
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