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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #6–Ft Lauderdale, FL 09/17/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 09/17/2007 3:30:35 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #6 – Fort Lauderdale, Florida 09/17/07 - Official Discussion Thread

The debate will focus on issues of special concern to social and religious conservatives who brand themselves "values voters." The candidates will begin arriving here mid-afternoon, and the debate kicks off at 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time. It will be streamed live via the Internet at ValuesVoterDebate.com and the website for the American Family Association.

It is also reported to be telecast on Sky Angel's Angel One channel & Dish Network channel #262.

Moderated by Joseph Farah, editor of WorldNetDaily

Candidates participating



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To: Sun
She did in the yes and no segment. I believe they all ovted yes in protection of life.
681 posted on 09/17/2007 8:56:30 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Sun

Did he take that position on the Terri Schievo case - I was not aware of that and I have been trying to pay close attention. If so that would definately show that his dedication to life is not as strong as he would like us to think.


682 posted on 09/17/2007 8:58:07 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: billbears
But what’s this with Rep. Paul getting the second amount of votes? From the Value Voters?

In the interest of full and honest disclosure, Ron Paul supporters are experts at text messaging and spamming. They are trained professionals on a closed course...do not attempt this at home. It is what it is.

He won't "win", but I would love to see Ron Paul mount a credible campaign to scare the crap out of Big Gubmint GOP types. That in and of itself would be a big "win". Ron could advance his ideology long after he has left this Earth.

683 posted on 09/17/2007 8:58:14 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: RasterMaster
Huck's smooth preacher style and delivery would win some folks over, because, culturally, it is very familiar to them as people of faith.

Unfortunately, it is clear that many of them didn't do their homework well enough to know he was doing a dance around the immigration and taxation issue.

Next event, either Baltimore or New Hampshire on the 27th...

684 posted on 09/17/2007 8:58:20 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: dschapin

I missed the stumbling. Which question did he blow?


685 posted on 09/17/2007 8:59:26 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: fred4prez
As much of a nut I think Dr. Paul is, at least he has the guts to be different than the rest of this panel, and he tends to be a bit more of a federalist. Of course, his foreign policy is totally wacko. He is a principled man, who believes in limited goverment. Glad to see he stuck to his principles in this debate. In following RP he doesn't really 'tailor' his responses to whatever group he is trying to please, unlike the rest of the bunch. I bet the rest didn't show up because of disagreements over the format, the yes/no format allowed them to be be stuck unequivically in a position of support or against, not good politics, unfortunately.
686 posted on 09/17/2007 9:00:32 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks
"thanks to both of you for typing this up, it was great to follow."

I'm happy to help

687 posted on 09/17/2007 9:00:33 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I believe that they tried to balance the views of the delegates that were sent so that each candidate started out with some supporters. Ron Paul actually had less support from the delegates at the end of the debate then he did at the beggining. However, he did not lose as many of his delegates as most of the other candidates did to Huckabee. This makes sense to me because most of his supporters are insanely loyal to him.


688 posted on 09/17/2007 9:01:39 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: pissant

Will it be replayed? I caught the very last of the end comments. I thought that was pretty boring.

Hopefully, folks watching the debate were impressed enough with Hunter to add that to all his other strengths. Values is important but is only a part of the mix.


689 posted on 09/17/2007 9:04:08 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: pissant

He didn’t blow any questions - however, I have heard him give clearer answers to several of them at other debates. For example, when he was answering the question on trade which was asked by Phyllis Schlaffly he gave an ok answer but he didn’t really explain how he was going to stop China from cheating on trade like I have seen him do during some of the other debates. He also stumbled more at the begining of several of his questions then he has at some of his better debates. He didn’t do a bad job but I just didn’t think it was his best performance.


690 posted on 09/17/2007 9:04:42 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: DocRock

who said that? gotta love whoever praised the club for growth :)


691 posted on 09/17/2007 9:05:06 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: gidget7

“She did in the yes and no segment. I believe they all ovted yes in protection of life.”

Thanks.


692 posted on 09/17/2007 9:08:08 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: pissant
Not sure what these people were looking for

..Huck pushed the right buttons--but these few delegates do not speak for the entire Religious Right...

693 posted on 09/17/2007 9:09:49 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: dschapin

I guess I was hoping too that he would make a stronger appeal to the values voters on the social issues. He did ok, but I think he actually ended his answer on the abortion question before his time had expired and I don’t think he adequately explained how dedicated he has been to ending abortion. He also seemed to have more trouble with his lights then the other candidates - which is not a big problem but I at least noticed it. None of these are big criticisms you were just asking why I didn’t think he was at the top of his game tonight and these are the little things that I noticed. And just to clarify I still think he would make the best president - I just wish that he had been able to make a better showing tonight. Winning this straw poll would have given him a great chance to unify Christian Conservatives behind his candidacy.


694 posted on 09/17/2007 9:11:02 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: WalterSkinner

Well, I’m as right wing as they come and a ardent Catholic. Huck does nothing for me, but then again, I know his record.


695 posted on 09/17/2007 9:11:14 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: traviskicks

eh whoops, i didn’t separate my response from your comment...


696 posted on 09/17/2007 9:13:06 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: dschapin

Gotchya.


697 posted on 09/17/2007 9:13:48 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: George W. Bush
Dr No stood his ground on the Constitution, pressing no to legislating morality, and no to sending money and troops to the Sudan, and all other questions which would necessitate fed govt involvement in matters not the business of the federal govt under the Constitution.

He did so in the face of an Evangelical society who think we should legislate the morality of their choice. He did so for freedom, individual liberty, and the Constitution. He stood alone as the most honest on the stage.

The man has the big'uns.

698 posted on 09/17/2007 9:16:14 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Can you hear that whistle blow? I can. I'm on the freedom train. Don't miss it.)
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To: takenoprisoner

Unfortunately, he opened his mouth and spoke too.


699 posted on 09/17/2007 9:17:14 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: dschapin

I appreciate the info. But let’s be honest, nobody there is going to win any new public office.


700 posted on 09/17/2007 9:18:11 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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