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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #6–Ft Lauderdale, FL 09/17/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 09/17/2007 3:30:35 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #6 – Fort Lauderdale, Florida 09/17/07 - Official Discussion Thread

The debate will focus on issues of special concern to social and religious conservatives who brand themselves "values voters." The candidates will begin arriving here mid-afternoon, and the debate kicks off at 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time. It will be streamed live via the Internet at ValuesVoterDebate.com and the website for the American Family Association.

It is also reported to be telecast on Sky Angel's Angel One channel & Dish Network channel #262.

Moderated by Joseph Farah, editor of WorldNetDaily

Candidates participating



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To: fred4prez

“I don’t agree that the top four candidates are wimps for not showing up; it was really all or none - if only one of the top tier candidates did show up, he would automatically, unfortunately, be subconsciously grouped with these (statistically speaking) losers. That’s just the way the game works today.”

I’m afraid that Fred had a chance to show he was better than Rudy McRomney, and he chose to join them and the Dems.


481 posted on 09/17/2007 7:00:42 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: counterpunch

“It is up tp Congress to determine the manner in which it declares war.
Congress did so in the much discussed War Resolution that Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and John Kerry all voted in favor of.”

from Henry Hyde to Alberto Gonzalez, they have said that this is not a declared war, Alberto in Testimony before Congress and Hyde in speaking with Ron Paul.


482 posted on 09/17/2007 7:01:09 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: RatsDawg

Think


483 posted on 09/17/2007 7:01:50 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: DocRock
Glover to Ron Paul about drugs.

Libs are sometimes misconstrued. Libertarians believe in liberty, but the inference here about marriage, homo and drugs is never addressed in the constitution, ... soon we set the stage to write laws which prevent us from going to church, (my paraphrase, he really talks fast), medical pot, cancer patients, prohibition, drug addiction is a med problem , not a law problem

484 posted on 09/17/2007 7:02:07 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: JTN

Dr. Paul gives the libertarian answer on the war on drugs and prostitution. He doesn’t pander to the crowd. Great answer.


485 posted on 09/17/2007 7:02:18 PM PDT by JTN (If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.)
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Q to Ron Paul on libertarians ideas, specifically homosexuality, prostitution, drugs.

No constitional authority to deal with those issues. Total failure on war on drugs. Arresting those using medical marijuana. Gives federal gov’t too much control. Abuse/addition is a medical problem, not a problem of the law


486 posted on 09/17/2007 7:02:30 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture ("Third tier" candidates > "first tier" candidates)
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To: All
Keyes on a UN question...


487 posted on 09/17/2007 7:03:57 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: tyke

“And the best of luck getting the electorate to agree to a 30% sales tax (paying $1.30 for every $1.00 you spend).”

My husband was saying that he would like to receive his ENTIRE CHECK each week, rather than the govt. taking out a chunk of it first. Lots of folks feel that way.

Rich people would pay more taxes, because they buy airplanes, yachts, more expensive autos, clothes, etc.

And unscrupulous politicians, like Clinton, wouldn’t be able to audit their enemies. :)


488 posted on 09/17/2007 7:04:07 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun
God does not want us to murder what He has created. Natural law.

We agree in principle. We both believe killing a healthy baby is murder. Who wouldn't? With Terry Schiavo, you have someone who God intended to die and Gubmint kept her alive.

489 posted on 09/17/2007 7:04:41 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: DocRock
UN question to Keyes

I have never been a supporter of the UN, I took stands under Ronald Regan against the UN. I can't fault the original founders of the UN for trying to stop global wars, but I can fault the current memebers for standing against God... ect. Begin sermon from Keyes.

490 posted on 09/17/2007 7:05:02 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Every time Keyes starts screaming, I can't help but think of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHuOvRat7tc

491 posted on 09/17/2007 7:05:17 PM PDT by WWTD
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To: CounterCounterCulture

As much as I disagree with Rep. Paul on other issues, I think he has the right idea here.

I know a lot of people are pro-life, but even murder in most instances is a state crime, not federal. I think the people in the individual states are perfectly competent in choosing the right morals (see 2004’s gay marriage bans across the states). If I’m not mistaken, this is the type of position Sen. Thompson holds as well.

Keyes on a rant. Hunter looks on in amusement/slight reverence.


492 posted on 09/17/2007 7:05:20 PM PDT by jmyrlefuller ("a steady drumbeat of clever, witty, observant posts throughout the morning" - Bahbah)
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Q to Keyes: Are you a supporter of the United Nations? Is the U.S. served by participation in the UN?

Keyes championed under Reagan to counter United Nations policies. He represented the US, not the UN. Keyes alleged support of the UN is a lie. We cannot allow turning our sovereignty of the United States to the UN. Goes after Obama Barrack.

That concludes Round 3.


493 posted on 09/17/2007 7:06:01 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture ("Third tier" candidates > "first tier" candidates)
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Four minutes to each candidate now. Huckabee gets good line about having time to do an offering. :-)


494 posted on 09/17/2007 7:06:40 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture ("Third tier" candidates > "first tier" candidates)
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495 posted on 09/17/2007 7:06:41 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: WWTD

You may not like Alan Keyes ‘delivery’, but surely you can’t fault his answers!


496 posted on 09/17/2007 7:06:42 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: pctech
I’m very disappointed Fred Thompson won’t be there. He may have lost my vote.

Because he didn't attend this debate? Seems kind of a flimsy reason, if you agree, politically with him.

497 posted on 09/17/2007 7:06:45 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: counterpunch

TehRon attracts moonbats like dung attracts flies.


498 posted on 09/17/2007 7:07:02 PM PDT by End Times Crusader (TehRon Paul - domestic enemy of America)
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To: Sun
God does not want us to murder what He has created. Natural law. No pesticides or modern medicine in your world view?

The natural progression of Terri to her death was interrupted by human intervention.

499 posted on 09/17/2007 7:07:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pope to politicians: "(Do) not to allow children to be considered as a form of illness.")
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To: fred4prez
Of course, his foreign policy is totally wacko.

Of course, it's not.

Would you rather this country's armed forces continue to be the world's police force, wherever we're needed? Sooner or later, the bills come due, and we will have to pay, pay, pay.

I suspect your statement is out of ignorance, not malice, since very few on FreeRepublic really know anything about Ron Paul other than he's been against the Iraq War since before it began. Suggested reading: A Foreign Policy of Freedom, a collection of Congressman Paul's speeches since 1976. You will discover that his anti-Iraq-war stance is based on many years of observing -- skeptically -- foreign policy mistakes that have made the United States less free and more a target for malcontents. As a reviewer wrote, "This foreign policy, Congressman Paul has pointed out, is contrary to American ideals, diminishes American liberty, and ends up making worse the very problems it seeks to alleviate."

500 posted on 09/17/2007 7:07:29 PM PDT by logician2u
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