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Genetics “Central Dogma” Is Dead
Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | September 12, 2007

Posted on 09/16/2007 3:45:54 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

“The gene is dead... long live the gene,” announced subtitles to an article in Science News this week.1 Geneticists have come to a striking conclusion over the last few years: genes are not the most important things in DNA, if they even exist as a concept.

The “central dogma” of genetics, since Watson and Crick determined the structure of DNA, is that genetic information flows one-way – from the gene to the protein. In the textbooks, a gene was supposed to be a finite stretch of DNA that, when read by the translation process, produced a messenger RNA, which recruited transfer RNAs to assemble the amino acids for one protein.

As Patrick Barry described in his article “Genome 2.0,”1 the situation in real cells is much messier. “Mountains of new data are challenging old views,” his subtitle announced, including the “modern orthodoxy” that only genes are important:

"Researchers slowly realized, however, that genes occupy only about 1.5 percent of the genome. The other 98.5 percent, dubbed “junk DNA,“ was regarded as useless scraps left over from billions of years of random genetic mutations. As geneticists’ knowledge progressed, this basic picture remained largely unquestioned...." "Closer examination of the full human genome is now causing scientists to return to some questions they thought they had settled. For one, they’re revisiting the very notion of what a gene is."...

http://creationsafaris.com/crev200709.htm#20070912a

(Excerpt) Read more at creationsafaris.com ...


TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: coyotemanhasspoken; creation; dna; evolution; genetics; genome
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To: RightWhale
I think it was Nikko Tinbergen who first observed that a single celled animal had every single feature, sense and capability usually thought of as being the sole provenance of multi-celled critters.

He was right you know.

61 posted on 09/16/2007 6:22:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rickdylan
You have at least one museum now with exhibits showing humans and dinosaurs together...

It is a lie.

...and 40,000 people went through that museum the first month from what I read.

And they were all exposed to a lie.

That museum has about the same scientific credibility as the Flintstones or One Million Years B.C., but at least the latter had some redeeming social value!

62 posted on 09/16/2007 6:25:13 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
... but at least [One Million Years B.C.] had some redeeming social value!

And how!

63 posted on 09/16/2007 6:28:58 PM PDT by dighton
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To: rickdylan
You have at least one museum now with exhibits showing humans and dinosaurs together and 40,000 people went through that museum the first month from what I read.

Wow. How tragic.

64 posted on 09/16/2007 6:29:03 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Coyoteman
In an infinite universe all things are possible (hands assume lotus position and head bows forward slightly).

Just to make an end of this dispute someday we human beings are going to create a world and run competing biologies forward hundreds of millions of years just to see how it all comes out and who was right.

65 posted on 09/16/2007 6:29:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rickdylan

Keep telling yourself that.


66 posted on 09/16/2007 6:33:20 PM PDT by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: muawiyah

It is appearing more and more that the genome is the equivalent of a complex program rather than simply static data. That it is more car complex than earlier thought should shock very few scientists.


67 posted on 09/16/2007 6:36:02 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Coyoteman

==None of which help creation “science.”

Creation science does not need help from the Darwinists, for Creation Scientists are asking the proper preliminary questions. Still, the Darwinists have no choice but to help the cause of Creation Science, for, whether they are willing to admit it or not, they are in fact studying God’s creation. Indeed, every step forward by the Darwinists will in most cases (and much to their own chagrin) turn out to be two steps backwards, all the while unwittingly advancing the cause of God’s creation. It could be no other way.


68 posted on 09/16/2007 6:36:21 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: rbg81

It is appearing more and more that the genome is the equivalent of a complex program rather than simply static data. That it is more far complex than earlier thought should shock very few scientists.


69 posted on 09/16/2007 6:36:35 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: RightWhale; corkoman
corkoman:
Nice non-sequitors.

RightWhale:
My non sequiters have been overshadowed and vanquished to their shame by your own.

IDers and Darwinists, Evolutionists and Creationists: It is non sequitur. Two words, no hyphen, and the second word ends with -tur as do all present third person singular deponent verbs in Latin. Thank you; you may now return to the evening's entertainments.

...And let no one ask about the evolution of virii.

70 posted on 09/16/2007 6:37:20 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: rbg81
Still, it seems to be startling some of them quite a bit. That's probably why they've begun devoting so much attention to the Creationists ~ that way they hope we won't notice they've failed to keep up to date on the new stuff.

Frankly, the new findings demonstrate that the genome is many times more complex than had ever been imagined. All paradigms will need to be revised and most likely abandoned. This trip is not going to be easy and there are not going to be all that many simple answers.

71 posted on 09/16/2007 6:41:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Still, it seems to be startling some of them quite a bit. That's probably why they've begun devoting so much attention to the Creationists ~ that way they hope we won't notice they've failed to keep up to date on the new stuff.

No, its more like staring at a train wreck. The "science" that creationists come up with is so bad its hard not to stare and laugh. Just look at some of the creationist websites and the whacky things they invent to make everything come out as they believe it has to. Just look at their statements of belief, which must be adhered to by all members. Here is an example.


Frankly, the new findings demonstrate that the genome is many times more complex than had ever been imagined. All paradigms will need to be revised and most likely abandoned. This trip is not going to be easy and there are not going to be all that many simple answers.

Good. The more accurate science becomes the better. Who cares if it is more complex? If that is where the data lead that is where science will follow.

Which is more than can be claimed by creationists. When the data lead into directions dogma and belief can't handle, and don't agree with particular interpretations of scripture, those data are simply ignored and denied, or twisted beyond all recognition.

I guess that's why they call it creation "science."

72 posted on 09/16/2007 7:02:38 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

Seems to me you got your head buried in Creationist clap-trap. Your time is better spent studying up on the new stuff (that seems to have come out just before the Fall where university budget plans are made for the following year ~ graduate assistants, access to labs and equipment, use of bequests and so forth are definitely at stake here.


73 posted on 09/16/2007 7:06:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: null and void

Because fins are even better.

74 posted on 09/16/2007 7:11:55 PM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

We can all do without your finger pointing and preachy censorship. Thanks.


75 posted on 09/16/2007 7:42:29 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

No matter what the end result may be, it is very hard to conceive of 98+% of the genome being “junk”. Life, nature, creation, whatever one may call it....it is too sophisticated and too complex to simply allow garbage to lie around, cluttering up the place. Of many things that are self evident, that is one that even a child should comprehend.


76 posted on 09/16/2007 7:49:46 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

bump


77 posted on 09/16/2007 7:54:12 PM PDT by VOA
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To: js1138
Oh, please...let there not happen along one of those "anti-Semites" who hates Israel because it's not the right kind of Jewish state.

Ya oughta keep quotes by valid stars of history a little more shaded and out of plain sight.

;-)

78 posted on 09/16/2007 7:57:15 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: RightWhale; GodGunsGuts
"The problem, both camps, is DNA is taken as what drives evolution."

The real 'problem' is that DNA is what prevents evolution. The beauty of real science!

79 posted on 09/16/2007 8:14:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: ClaireSolt

So you want more free speech when it comes to denigrating Jews, but less free speech when it comes to those who criticize the same. Read you loud and clear.


80 posted on 09/16/2007 8:16:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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