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Pa. scientist again attacks evolution : The Edge of Evolution, Search for Limits of Darwinism
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 08/19/2007 | Cameron Wybrow

Posted on 08/21/2007 9:53:14 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

In 1996, Pennsylvania's own Michael J. Behe launched a frontal attack upon Darwinian evolution with the publication of Darwin's Black Box. Behe, a mild-mannered molecular biologist at Lehigh University, argued politely but vigorously that the standard Darwinian explanation (random mutations plus natural selection) simply couldn't explain the evolution of a number of significant structures and processes observed in living things. Intricate processes like human blood clotting, and intricate structures like the bacterial flagellum (which is built uncannily like an outboard motor) were "irreducibly complex" arrangements that couldn't have arisen by a series of chance steps. They therefore must have been designed, by an intelligence of some kind. Behe's book soon became the flagship of the movement known as intelligent design (ID).

Behe's presentation and subsequent defense of ID (including his testimony at the Dover trial in 2005) outraged much of the biological community. He was denounced by the self-styled defenders of science - biologists like Ken Miller and Jerry Coyne, and non-scientists like Michael Ruse and Barbara Forrest. They accused Behe (along with his allies in the ID movement) of recycling disproved arguments, of insolently refusing to genuflect before the Darwinian consensus, of misunderstanding the nature of scientific theory, and of trying to slip God (disguised as "the intelligent designer") into public-school science classrooms.

Intelligent design, if not nipped in the bud, would turn science classes into seminaries, set back modern medicine by denying the evolution of antibiotic resistance, and destroy confidence in science in general, relegating America to a backward technological status.

There was some reasonable criticism. Behe said that the bacterial flagellum could have been created only by multiple coordinated genetic changes, and that such coordination was beyond the power of random mutation. Miller argued that, given enough time, random mutations could accumulate, producing a flagellum by stages. Behe's purely qualitative argument couldn't disprove this possibility; without hard numbers, how did he know what random mutation could or couldn't accomplish?

Behe's new book, The Edge of Evolution, provides some hard numbers, coupled with an ingenious argument. The key to determining the exact powers of Darwinian evolution, says Behe, lies with fast-reproducing microbes. Some, such as malaria, HIV, and E. coli, reproduce so quickly that within a few decades, or at most a few millennia, they generate as many mutations as a larger, slower-breeding animal would in millions of years. By observing how far these creatures have evolved in recent times, we can estimate the creative limits of random mutation.

In the case of malaria, the creative limits appear quite low. Over the last few thousand years, several thousand billion billion malarial cells have been unable to develop an evolutionary response to the sickle-cell mutation, which protects its human bearers from malaria. On the other hand, malaria has proved able to develop Darwinian resistance to the antibiotic chloroquine. This resistance is based upon two simultaneous mutations affecting a malarial protein. Yet this rare double mutation has occurred fewer than 10 times since chloroquine was introduced 50 years ago, during which time a hundred billion billion malarial cells have been born. If this indicates the typical rate of occurrence of double mutations, then the Darwinian transformation of our pre-chimp ancestor into homo sapiens, which would have required at least some double mutations, would have taken at least a thousand trillion years, a time span greater than the age of the universe.

Drawing upon parallel mutation studies of HIV and E. coli for confirmation, Behe concludes that random mutations cannot explain the origin of most of the complex structures in living things. He concedes that Darwinian processes can make new species, but argues that they are incompetent to generate new kingdoms, phyla, or classes. The creative limit, the "edge of evolution," lies somewhere between the level of species and the level of class. Darwinian processes can account for the difference between a dog and a wolf, maybe even a dog and a bear, but not the difference between a lizard and a bird. Something other than random mutation must have produced such differences; for Behe, the "something" is intelligent design.

The response to Behe has been predictable. The editors of the major print media have assigned known enemies of ID to trash the book - Richard Dawkins for the New York Times; Coyne for the New Republic; Miller for Nature; Ruse for Toronto's Globe & Mail. A large part of each review is ad hominem, concerned with Behe's alleged religious agenda, his minority status among biologists, and other irrelevant matters. In Dawkins' review, the science is barely touched, and it's not clear from Ruse's review that he has even opened the cover of the book. Behe deserves better. The Edge of Evolution makes a serious, quantitative argument about the limits of Darwinian evolution. Evolutionary biology cannot honestly ignore it.

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Cameron Wybrow is a freelance writer with a doctorate from McMaster University. He has published two books on the origin of modern science.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: behe; crevo; darwinism; evolution
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1 posted on 08/21/2007 9:53:18 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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If this indicates the typical rate of occurrence of double mutations, then the Darwinian transformation of our pre-chimp ancestor into homo sapiens, which would have required at least some double mutations, would have taken at least a thousand trillion years, a time span greater than the age of the universe.

How bout this, Evolution occurs, God nudges it along.

2 posted on 08/21/2007 10:00:09 AM PDT by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: SirLinksalot
I think there's a middle ground here. Instead of the randomness of natural selection or the "outside" influence of intelligent design, why can't design be an inherent property within the system?
3 posted on 08/21/2007 10:03:01 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: SirLinksalot

The Edge of Evolution is highly recommended. Behe’s ideas have implications for drug development among other things. The discussion of evolution and malaria is fascinating.


4 posted on 08/21/2007 10:04:30 AM PDT by cosine
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To: SirLinksalot

SirLinksalot refrains from comment due to the flaming which will certainly occur from the darwinists.

It should be duly noted however, that scientists who are convinced that their concepts should be chiseled in stone often find those ideas reduced to dust.


5 posted on 08/21/2007 10:05:58 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Paradox
How bout this, Evolution occurs, God nudges it along.

That's Behe's position to a degree. He's saying evolution has limits (hence the "Edge of Evolution")

6 posted on 08/21/2007 10:06:08 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: SirLinksalot
If this indicates the typical rate of occurrence of double mutations, then the Darwinian transformation of our pre-chimp ancestor into homo sapiens, which would have required at least some double mutations, would have taken at least a thousand trillion years, a time span greater than the age of the universe.

In other words, for evolution to have 'worked' within 5 billion years for large animals requires generations of animals that had multiple SIMULTANEOUS mutations occuring at once....and all beneficial.

7 posted on 08/21/2007 10:10:17 AM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: SirLinksalot

God designed life to evolve and adapt, within the limits He established.


8 posted on 08/21/2007 10:12:21 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: zencat

Is the “middle ground” that a partnership exists between a thinking Creator and an unthinking phenomenon we will call “random pushing of stuff around that throws up new stuff that works”? Are the two equal and co-eternal? Seems tough to hold the “little bit of both” position.


9 posted on 08/21/2007 10:18:19 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: SirLinksalot
He concedes that Darwinian processes can make new species, but argues that they are incompetent to generate new kingdoms, phyla, or classes.

Behe's not retreating, he's just advancing in the opposite direction.

10 posted on 08/21/2007 10:19:49 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: SirLinksalot
I'm okay with evolution as far as genetics are concerned. Two items though defy
explanation in evolutionary terms: The origin of life and the Cambrian explosion.
11 posted on 08/21/2007 10:21:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Dutchboy88
Is the “middle ground” that a partnership exists between a thinking Creator and an unthinking phenomenon we will call “random pushing of stuff around

Isn't God powerful enough to control "randomness"?

12 posted on 08/21/2007 10:21:42 AM PDT by narby
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To: SirLinksalot
Where is the mechanism ID uses to mutate these genes? Who saw the ID mutator work? What did the ID mutator look like?

We have examples of mutation, but no evidence of supernatural involvement. Therefore ID is false.
13 posted on 08/21/2007 10:27:39 AM PDT by GreenOgre (mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Sounds rather like the Warmists and the global warming “deniers”.


14 posted on 08/21/2007 10:28:53 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: onedoug
Two items though defy explanation in evolutionary terms: The origin of life and the Cambrian explosion.

The origin of life is not a part of evolution. In fact, the theory of evolution works fine with any of several origins.

As for the Cambrian explosion, try this article.

15 posted on 08/21/2007 10:39:47 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: narby

Precisely the point. Is the Creator controlling randomness or is there another “thing” in the universe that He does not control? Can’t have it both ways.


16 posted on 08/21/2007 10:51:54 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: SirLinksalot

Well....it’s a “God of the Gaps” argument: “That which I cannot explain, I attribute to supernatural causes”.

He’s entitled to take the position, but historically as regards the natural sciences, it’s generally been an erroneous one.


17 posted on 08/21/2007 11:01:37 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Why is this complicated?

Behe says that the theory of evolution is insufficient to explain the advanced state of mutations in a range of organisms.

That suggestion does not per se require the existence of God thought it may be more amenable to the possibility than the blinding atheist dogma that evolutionary scientism Darwin’s theory has been transformed into by ideologues.

Behe has a reasonable argument. If evolution is so awesome, why can it not be subject to debate?


18 posted on 08/21/2007 11:10:44 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: SirLinksalot
“The editors of the major print media have assigned known enemies of ID to trash the book. . .”

Sort of like the Church attacking Galileo but instead of Catholics Behe’s critics are scientific materialists. If Behe’s theory is so weak why all the uproar?

The scientific notion of intelligent design is hard to debate without the intrusion of monotheism and atheism.

19 posted on 08/21/2007 11:16:57 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The scientific notion of intelligent design is hard to debate without the intrusion of monotheism and atheism.

Why would you omit pantheism?

And what evidence would you bring to bear on the subject to support your opinion either way?

20 posted on 08/21/2007 11:30:17 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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