Hunter is also good on DEFENSE issues as well.
Posted on 08/11/2007 5:05:03 PM PDT by WalterSkinner
Duncan Hunter's Iowa Straw Poll speech.
Like I just told Lexinom, you cannot win if you don’t have an organization.
Issues don’t matter if you don’t have a campaign.
You seem to be trying to fight reality here with semantics.
Rudy and Fred didn’t need to win. Mitt did. McCain is already DOA. The others had to at least place. Hunter didn’t.
Get it?
When people are looking for a candidate to support, are they going to throw away their money on a bona fide loser?
No. That’s called a bad investment.
People don’t need Rudy or Fred to prove themselves. They are already the top two candidates. Mitt needed to win to prove he has a chance at being competitive on the ground through sheer organizational force.
And really, no one cares about your vote. Elections aren’t about the little guy going out on his own and casting a ballot. They are about the party’s GOTV machine. Karl Rove knows that, why don’t you? Even Howard Dean finally learned that in time for the midterms, so maybe there is still hope for you, too.
Because they lack substance?
According to these “experts”, it’s about the HYPE...that’s what REALLY matters. /s
Regardless how this day turned out, good for some, not so good for others, the ending of this story hasn’t been written yet. Iowa isn’t finished until after the caucus no matter when that is.
I don’t know about his campaign organization is, but I hope DH hangs in there. You evidently are willing to hang in there.
A candidate can’t win if he quits and I’m glad you’re not quitting. The more conservative candidates who get more support, the better I like the chances in the general election for whoever the nominee is.
Again, you waste your time with us “1%-ers”....your paid consultants don’t equal votes or support.
If what you say was true, we’d have President Dean, but since we don’t, I value your opinion as much as this purchased (and meaningless) “poll”, which was a test of NOTHING more than who has more money than common sense and can buy the most “votes”.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Former senator Fred D. Thompson (Tenn.), who is not yet an official candidate, had his “FredHeads” there, passing out fliers.
No he didn’t. They were there on their own accord as independent grassroots activists.
They were probably the only people there who weren’t being paid.
8 posted on 08/11/2007 9:03:10 PM PDT by counterpunch (”The Democrats are the party of slavery.” - Cindy Sheehan)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1879937/posts
hi make up your mind - was everybody else being paid or does the poll matter.
Howdy!
I think Duncan Hunter would make a great Secretary of Defence, not VP, in the Thompson administration, actually, along with Newt Gingrich as Secretary of State.
You don’t even make sense.
But your inability for logical though is not my fault.
The straw poll doesn’t matter for Fred Thompson or Rudy Giuliani.
I think that is pretty clear.
Guys showed up for both of them anyways. They were not paid by the campaigns, however, unlike the activists organized by the candidates who were competing in the straw poll. For those who actually ran in the poll, it was a test of their organizational strength.
I don’t understand why I have to explain the mechanics of the iowa Straw Poll to some of you guys.
You can research it on your own.
Hunter is also good on DEFENSE issues as well.
Are you talking about polls? Is that how you are deciding who is viable and who will be the eventual nominee. No thanks, no way I am voting for Rudy.
Thank you so much for the links to the videos of Duncan Hunter.
Hi RM. Hang in there.
“You don’t even make sense.
But your inability for logical though is not my fault.
The straw poll doesn’t matter for Fred Thompson or Rudy Giuliani.
I think that is pretty clear.
Guys showed up for both of them anyways. They were not paid by the campaigns, however, unlike the activists organized by the candidates who were competing in the straw poll. For those who actually ran in the poll, it was a test of their organizational strength.
I don’t understand why I have to explain the mechanics of the iowa Straw Poll to some of you guys.
You can research it on your own.”
155 days till it matters AKA Countdown to IOWA Caucuses
I’m aware of Hunter’s positions.
They don’t matter if he can’t raise money or organize a GOTV though.
My neighbor down the street has the same positions as Hunter too, and he has about as much of a chance of winning. In fact, he was only about 174 votes behind Hunter in the Straw Poll.
Counterpunch is talking about the process, while we are talking about the reality of the candidates themselves, i.e. actual accomplishments, issue positions, consistency, what have you.
The real crux lies between doing what is popular, and doing what is right. The latter is itself one of the tenets of American greatness, and vital to our continued prosperity and freedom. In that vein it is my contention that, if people remain faithful and steadfast, they can build the needed momentum. Hunter has already provided proof-of-concept, so to speak, of his ability to win even in straw polls (winning within the process) - when he has had time to campaign. He has placed national obligations like helping to kill that awful amnesty bill ahead of the campaign in this instance. I have no question that he knows what he's doing, and if he had higher expectations than what came of this poll, that his campaign will make the appropriate adjustments. Maybe he never intended to finish top two or three in Ames...
All indications are that Hunter has the right combination of political experience, record, military, and consistency throughout the years to stick with what promises to be a grueling campaign and, with our help, to rise to visibility before the American people who then have opportunity to provide a judgment of their own in the final court of arbitration in the democratic process.
I’m not talking “polls,” I’m talking organization.
“It is clear our message of maintaining a strong national defense, securing our border without amnesty, holding China accountable on trade, and protecting life are resonating with the voters.
Our campaign is one of issues, not flash and expense. We don’t have a jet or an army of consultants and paid staff. We do have the conservative message that is true. In the end, that will be what Americans want.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Hunter
Duncan Hunter is the only candidate who is right on ALL the issues.
As in Woo! Woo! John Birch Society!
Counterpunch is talking about the process, while we are talking about the reality of the candidates themselves, i.e. actual accomplishments, issue positions, consistency, what have you.Right. I'm glad you at least get it.
All indications are that Hunter has the right combination of political experience, record, military, and consistency throughout the years to stick with what promises to be a grueling campaign and, with our help, to rise to visibility before the American people who then have opportunity to provide a judgment of their own in the final court of arbitration in the democratic process.The only problem with that is you're failing to see that the one chance a one-percenter had to “rise to visibility before the American people” was today in Iowa, and Hunter blew it about as bigtime as he could.
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