Posted on 07/30/2007 2:01:00 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Geologists have found the remains of a huge underground rainforest hidden in a coal mine in Illinois. The fossil forest, buried by an earthquake 300 million years ago, contains giant versions of several plant types alive today.
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Also surprising is the presence of remains from mangrove-like plants. "It was always assumed that mangrove plants had evolved fairly recently," says Falcon-Lang.
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==300 million years — sounds like another nail in the coffin of young earth creationism.
Of course creationists don’t accept the old-age assumptions propogated by the Church of Darwin. The creationist is merely commenting on the fact that the Darwinists can’t even nail down their own sequence because very often new discoveries, such as the one above, forces the Church of Darwin to alter their own sequence and dating assumptions, sometimes up to hundreds of millions of years. And, as was pointed out above, “This story also illustrates, as seen so often before, that wherever evolutionists look, they find more complexity farther back in time than they expect.”
The Bible indicates that time of Human Beings on Earth comes to about 6000 years so far, as the generations are counted, and historical events are correlated.
Nowhere in the Bible is it indicated that the age of the Earth or the Universe is 6 or 7 thousand years.
My one geology professor impressed me very much by speaking how science cannot explain everything about the earth and how religion can help fill in the gaps and can complement science.
==I’m still waiting for someone to come up with a single piece of creation/ID evidence.
A great place to start, at least for the layman, is www.detectingdesign.com. Read the entire contents of that website, especially the stuff on the geologic column, and then tell me there isn’t “a single piece of creation/ID evidence.”
So what is the basic difference between ‘Theistic Evolutionists or Theo-Evolutionists’ and ‘guided evolutionists’? My own belief is to accept all scientific evidence, but reject the theory of macro-natural selection, which taken to its logical conclusion, means that there is not and could not have been a creator of life.
I do not see anything to distinguish among this idea, ‘guided evolution’, or ‘intelligent design’. This is the first time that I have heard about ‘Theistic Evolutionists’ or ‘Theo-Evolutionists’. Any references, or should I just google these terms?
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To add to your comment, evolutionary ‘evidence’ as shown by evolutionists is simply adaptation. Minor adjustments if you will.
I’m still waiting for the explanation/evidence of what environmental stress would cause bacteria to get more complex and ‘evolve’ into very complex organisms such as plants, mammals, reptiles, etc. You’d think that complex organisms actually have lower survivability. Also, there is simply no evidence of transitional species. The drawings showing ape evolving to man from National Geographic are cute but there is no evidence of the transition. We only have evidence of two; ape and man.
Lacking evidence, there is no doubt that evolution involves faith.
If that happened all at once it would be magnitude 10 or so. The mountains in the Brooks Range in Alaska in the famous ANWR are folded so much the layers stand nearly vertical. That probably happened gradually.
“There is evidence for evolution from earlier primates. I studied it in grad school for six years. And the question, “Why are there still apes?” suggests to me you have not studied this issue at all. If most Americans are descended from Europeans, why are there still Europeans?”
Poor argument. Does not compare apples to apples. We aretalking one species to another, not one ethnicity to another.
There’s also this interesting thread that was posted some time ago that deals with time:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576941/posts
Young earth creationists insist that the seven days of creation are seven consecutive days of 24 hours.
There is less disagreement between old earth creation and what current scientific findings than with young earth creation.
However, that never stopped some evos from lumping everyone together and ridiculing them all and attacking Christianity.
Thank God for the biblical truth of Evolutionary Science... I am so stoked that God gave to us evolution. It explains so much.
The bible is just amazing in its explanation that the Earth is over 4.5 billion years old.
Praise Jesus!! Praise Darwin!!! How fantastic God used Evolutionary Science to create man.
“I always thought diehard creationists would only admit that the Earth is 7,000 years old “
NOPE!
That’s just the small group that evo’s like to point to.
I call it faux faith. Faith in this sense is associated with God. Just my opinion based on my experiences and observations.
Don’t underestimate creationists ability to grasp the tiniest bit of unsubstantiated evidence as proof that evolutionary theory is wrong.
Like throwing spaghetti against the wall to see if it sticks. It almost never does, but they keep trying. What does stick, after further scrutiny it usually ends up supporting evolution.
For myself, I take the view that the universe is probably very old, and yet still maintain that Genesis was the inspired word of God (although I allow that God could have created the universe to simply look old, this seems unlikely to me).
I hold that God's messages to mankind in Genesis are plentiful and profound, but are geared toward understanding the human spiritual condition, not to advancing the physical sciences. Conversely, our discoveries about how vast creation is in size, detail, and time, is evidence that God may has been understating His own greatness.
Moreover, current science strongly suggests that the universe, though very old, could not have simply always existed. Which I see as being a big problem for any non-trascendent philosophy, including naturalism and related forms of atheism.
“oops, there goes another rubber tree plant”
You didn’t get the secret VRWC memo circulated last year? My bad. We’ll get you on the list and teach you the secret handshake too.
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