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Their Legacy: The Race Riots Doomed Detroit Forever (Debbie Schlussel: Death Of Motown Alert)
Debbie Schlussel.com ^ | 07/23/2007 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 07/23/2007 4:21:37 PM PDT by goldstategop

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To: Eddie01
Families save cities.

Not true. The AFFLUENT and worldly save cities. What saved New York and Chicago were not "families" as those are the folks who (for the most part) fled like hell in the 1960s-1980s.

41 posted on 07/23/2007 5:01:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: goldstategop

One urban renewal solution : bulldoze it flat, start over. Every razed, empty building means another chunk of parkland reclaimed. If taxes aren’t paid on it, it’s GONE. Use it or lose it. Simple solution, who has the cahones to DO IT?


42 posted on 07/23/2007 5:02:21 PM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: cripplecreek

Yep, you have beautiful old hotels and a train station that would be thriving in any other city, but are ruins in Detroit.


43 posted on 07/23/2007 5:03:01 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: goldstategop

One of the things that crippled Detroit was that the public employees unions robbed the city blind in the 1970s. It’s fair to blame alot of it on who the government was at the time, but you have to blame alot of it on public employee’s unions. That’s why most city governments fell on bad times in the last few decades, no ability to expand a tax base and increasing demand from public employees unions.


44 posted on 07/23/2007 5:03:15 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: Bogtrotter52
If anyone knows of a major American city with a black mayor and predominantly black population that is not a economic basket case and a overall s**thole.......enlighten me.

Dallas didn't do too bad under Ron Kirk...

45 posted on 07/23/2007 5:03:17 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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To: goldstategop
Black Panthers and their radical allies, supported by a thousands of Black Detroiters, rioted for days, starting fires and destroying the city. They wanted more power in the city. They wanted a Black Mayor, a Black police chief, a Black city council...

"So, how's that working out for ya?"

(/Dr. Phil)

46 posted on 07/23/2007 5:03:57 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: Clemenza

I’ve always thought that Chicago never really had a flight problem to the extent other cities did, mainly because of Daley Sr. As someone who saw many of the cities in this country, I can honestly say, 20 years ago, I felt safe in Chicago, I didn’t feel safe in New York.


47 posted on 07/23/2007 5:05:00 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: goldstategop

Same with Camden in the People’s Republic of Joisey. When I lived down that way, people told me it was a great city before the riots destroyed it. Seems nothing short of pushing it into the Delaware and starting over from scratch will fix things.


48 posted on 07/23/2007 5:06:06 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: WritableSpace
The thing that always struck me about Detroit was the adventure of driving. Light turns green in your favor? Wait a full second before you take your foot off the brake, to yield to the red-light-runners. Driving at night? Foot on the brake at all times, in case that woman walking-in-the-street-because-she's-too-afraid-of-walking-any-closer-to-the-buildings has to step around a pothole and directly into your path.

And in the summer when the thunderboomers roll through and knock out all the electricity to everything, traffic lights included? Free for all!

49 posted on 07/23/2007 5:06:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Paulus Invictus
There’s a connection that smells bad here!

It's the pantsuit.

50 posted on 07/23/2007 5:07:21 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: cripplecreek

Re “Windsor being pulled down by Detroit”, cc, not a word of truth to that.


51 posted on 07/23/2007 5:08:09 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: goldstategop
Black Americans, like White Americans, don't want to live in the crime, failed schools, and other living conditions brought to you by the Detroit riots.

No, not "the Detroit riots." Entitlement. "Tolerance." A bleeding heart for people who left the city with a bleeding head.

Crime under Detroit's Black police chiefs (the city has had several) is at an all-time high, and Detroit Public Schools, under its Black superintendents and school boards (there have been several of those, too), are at their worst, with record high drop-out rates and numbers of illiterate graduates.

Great legacy of Black empowerment. Those race-baiters who accuse Whites of paranoia need to look at this track record, and admit that many White fears are justified.

When Black radicals started the riots, they achieved their goal of driving out White Detroiters, but their separatism only isolated them.

What did they THINK was going to happen? White suburbanites were going to flock into the city to become mugging fodder???

Unlike every other inner city in America, Detroit is not a tourist destination.

That may be the understatement of the year. Compared to Detroit, Folsom Prison is Disney World.

52 posted on 07/23/2007 5:08:55 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: goldstategop
The problem with emphasizing Detroit's and other older cities problems is that people from other areas of the world and country assume the entire State of Michigan is like Detroit. A lot of Governors came to a conference in the Traverse City area last week and were surprised at how nice and vibrant it was. Even in Detroit’s suburbs, visitors are surprised that the disastrous decay that they have heard of is not present outside the Detroit City Limits except in a few small areas. The world has to realize that Detroit is but 140 square miles in a state of 58,000 square miles. Other cities have their problems, too. Many of those problems can be traced to government programs like “Urban Renewal”. Chicago recently tore down several two mile long rows of 16 story government housing projects, which were a failure in every sense. Every city has run down areas, not just Detroit. Globally, many cities that appear prosperous are little more than facades, built sometimes just for the Olympics. While I agree with many of Debbie’s assertions, many end at the Detroit City Limits.
53 posted on 07/23/2007 5:10:49 PM PDT by LongTimeMILurker
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To: AzaleaCity5691
That's because Daley Sr. (and Daley Jr.) practice(d) CONTAINMENT. In other words, keep the crime and vice on the west and south sides, and be hard as hell when the "element" steps outside of the line.

Unfortunatly, this also leads to odd cases such as the fact that I was safer when I lived in the poorest neighborhood on the North Side (Uptown) than in one of the nicest neighborhoods on the South Side (Hyde Park) because the former was "above the line" and in the line of gentrification. Thankfully, Daley the Younger has been proactive in reclaiming the near South and West Sides, even demolishing projects.

You didn't see the areas affected by flight (largely of blue collar families) because most of those areas were on the South and West sides, way off the tourist map. Take a drive down Commercial Avenue or MLK Drive and you will see what I mean by the effects of middle/lower middle class flight.

Thankfully, the affluent (as was the case in New York) remained committed to the city, something that did NOT happen in Detroit, Cleveland, or (to a large extent) Philadelphia, where the wealthy got out early, leaving first the working class and then the underclass.

54 posted on 07/23/2007 5:12:54 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: tet68
The Arabs, who used to make up a fair percentage of the Detroit city population, were moving out 40 years ago.

Notice where they live ~ you rarely see a reference to Detroit outside of the dateline of the writer.

The place is a mess and thanks to a dispute between the Indianapolis City Council and Henry Ford just over a century ago, Indianapolis was saved this horrid fate.

55 posted on 07/23/2007 5:14:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tet68
The Arabs, who used to make up a fair percentage of the Detroit city population, were moving out 40 years ago.

Notice where they live ~ you rarely see a reference to Detroit outside of the dateline of the writer.

The place is a mess and thanks to a dispute between the Indianapolis City Council and Henry Ford just over a century ago, Indianapolis was saved this horrid fate.

56 posted on 07/23/2007 5:15:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bogtrotter52
When Dallas had mayor Ron Kirk the city was in pretty good shape. The school system sucked but Kirk was no clown. He brought in the AAC and transformed some major blighted areas into upscale condos.

Remember the movie Robo Cop? That was filmed in Dallas. Kirk set the deal to destroy that area and build a new arena for the Mavs and Stars, downtown. Ghettos lined Hall street and McKinney Ave was depressed as hell. Now its all upscale shopping, bars, condos, apartments and homes.

Not all of this was Kirk but much started under him. He was of course soft on crime and soft on education but the city council in Dallas is pretty wretched.

57 posted on 07/23/2007 5:15:40 PM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Weeedley
The glorious BEARS always ate the Lion’s for lunch on Turkey day...

Eh...not really. The Lions are 7-8 against the Bears on Turkey Day. :-)

58 posted on 07/23/2007 5:18:36 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Technogeeb

Dallas is predominantly black city?


59 posted on 07/23/2007 5:18:45 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: goldstategop
Great mind, pretty eyes, nice puppies....I salute you dear!

60 posted on 07/23/2007 5:20:00 PM PDT by wardaddy (multiplier)
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