Senate Hearing On Ramos and Compean 7/17/07

7/10/07

[Ladycalif]

Attached just in from Monica Ramos!!

July 10, 2007

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a "Hearing to Examine the Prosecution of Igancio Ramos and Jose Compean" for Tuesday July 17th, 2007 at 10:00am in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building.

Senator Feinstein will preside.

By order of the Chairman.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

ACTION NEEDED and spread the word, please!

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NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a “Hearing to Examine the Prosecution of Igancio Ramos and Jose Compean” for Tuesday July 17th, 2007 at 10:00am in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building.

Senator Feinstein will preside.

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Below from a new email

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There is a nationwide movement of patriotic Americans calling on President Bush for the immediate release and pardon of two Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. Ramos and Compean were falsely convicted and incarcerated for 11 and 12 years for attempting to apprehend a drug smuggler bringing 700 pounds of marijuana into the US. Instead of being convicted of drug trafficking and assault against a US law enforcement officer, the multiple offense drug dealer (illegal alien) received immunity from Johnny Sutton and is now suing the US for 5 MILLION DOLLARS. Read the most accurate account of this story here: http://americanfreedomriders.com/JoeLoyaLetter.html.

The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled a hearing to examine the prosecution of Ramos & Compean that will take place NEXT TUESDAY July 17 at 10:00 AM in Washington DC.

Below is the list of US Senators on the Judiciary Committee and a sample letter that you are free to use. Contact these Senators and encourage them to hammer Johnny Sutton for the truth!

Biden, Joseph R., Jr.- (D - DELAWARE) Class II
(202) 224-5042
http://biden.senate.gov/contact/emailjoe.cfm

Brownback, Sam- (R - KANSAS) Class III
(202) 224-6521
http://brownback.senate.gov/CMEmailMe.cfm

Cardin, Benjamin L.- (D - MARYLAND) Class I
(202) 224-4524
http://cardin.senate.gov/contact/

Coburn, Tom- (R - OKLAHOMA) Class III
(202) 224-5754
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactSenatorCoburn.Home

Cornyn, John- (R - TEXAS) Class II
(202) 224-2934
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/index.asp?f=contact&lid=1

Durbin, Richard- (D - ILLINOIS) Class II
(202) 224-2152
http://durbin.senate.gov/contact.cfm

Feingold, Russell D.- (D - WISCONSIN) Class III
(202) 224-5323
http://feingold.senate.gov/contact_opinion.html

Feinstein, Dianne- (D - CALIFORNIA) Class I
(202) 224-3841
http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactUs.EmailMe

Graham, Lindsey- (R - SOUTH CAROLINA) Class II
(202) 224-5972
http://lgraham.senate.gov/index.cfm?mode=contactform

Grassley, Chuck- (R - IOWA) Class III
(202) 224-3744
http://grassley.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Home

Hatch, Orrin G.- (R - UTAH) Class I
(202) 224-5251
http://hatch.senate.gov/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Offices.Contact

Kennedy, Edward M.- (D - MASSACHUSSETTS) Class I
(202) 224-4543
http://kennedy.senate.gov/senator/contact.cfm

Kohl, Herb- (D - WISCONSIN) Class I
(202) 224-5653

http://kohl.senate.gov/gen_contact.html

Kyl, Jon- (R - AZ) Class I
(602) 840-1891 Phoenix Office
(202) 224-4521 Washington DC Office
http://kyl.senate.gov/contact.cfm

Leahy, Patrick J.- (D - VERMONT) Class III
(202) 224-4242
senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov

Schumer, Charles E.- (D - NEW YORK) Class III
(202) 224-6542
http://schumer.senate.gov/SchumerWebsite/contact/webform.cfm

Sessions, Jeff- (R - ALABAMA) Class II
(202) 224-4124
http://sessions.senate.gov/email/contact.cfm

Specter, Arlen- (R - PENNSYLVANIA) Class III
(202) 224-4254
http://specter.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactInfo.Home

Whitehouse, Sheldon- (D - RHODE ISLAND) Class I
(202) 224-2921
http://whitehouse.senate.gov/contact.cfm

Feel free to copy and paste the following letter.
Put “SENATOR- WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU IN THE RAMOS & COMPEAN HEARINGS” in the Subject Line.

Dear Senator,

I am a (your state) legal resident who finds the convictions of Border Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean to be one of the most outrageous miscarriages of justice I have ever witnessed. As you conduct next Tuesday’s hearing to examine the malicious prosecution of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, keep in mind that I am among hundreds of thousands of Americans expecting you and the other 18 Senators on the Committee to rectify this gross miscarriage of justice. I, like many Americans, demand the immediate release and pardon of Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, and I thank you in advance for your diligent and expedient pursuit to this end.

Sincerely,

(Your Name)

Send this to everyone on your email list!

Thank You for Your Patriotism and Support!

For more information and links, please visit our web site at www.americanfreedomriders.com

[untrained skeptic]

If you read the transcript these two were trying to do their jobs and protect our border. The reason there wasn't more eye witnesses that could have shed more light on the incident is because at least one other border patrol agent was simply too lazy to chase the suspect on foot, and didn't even go and try and help after he heard shots were fired.

The whole case is based on the testimony of Aldrete-Davila, a man they know told a number of lies to prosecutors, which was a violation of the immunity agreement. Prosecutors could have chosen to prosecute him for either the original instance of drug smuggling because he violated the agreement, or for subsequently delivering another load of drugs, which the prosecutors were aware that he did, but did not let him know they had found out. The drug dealers that he was delivering the first load for apparently insisted that he deliver another load after the first one was lost to the Border Patrol.

The border patrol agents' crime was that they did not report that they fired shots at a fleeing suspect that they thought was armed, and in Ramos' case thought was firing on Compean.

Another agent also reported seeing a person they thought was the suspect getting into a car on the far side of the river, so this isn't a situation where they thought they killed him and left him for dead.

The failed to do their duty to report that the shots were fired. They should have been appropriately disciplined for that. They are not completely innocent, but there wasn't evidence to suggest that they had tried to murder the suspect, and evidence that would have undermined his testimony against the agents was kept from the jury.

There were of course other officers in the area that heard the shots, so this wasn't something that

So in a government organization that was apparently rather law in enforcing the law.

[deport]

Would you please remove my name from your ping list. Thanks for the consideration..........

[deport]

There were of course other officers in the area that heard the shots,

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Interesting...... can you link which volume of the trial testimony that contains this allegation by these officers?... I haven’t read them all but haven’t seen that anywhere in the parts I’ve read... Thanks.

[ApplegateRanch]

Done.

Now, the sarcasm:

This two young, brave and dedicated agents are not criminals. The are good husbands and fathers. They have six young children to raise and have done a terrific job of it.

Eet ees wrong to spleet oop families of honest, hard working peepols, who jeest wont to make a leeving een the Estados Unidos, doing jobs most Americans wouldn't take on a bet....

[untrained skeptic]

It has been a while since I read the testimony. However, there was one other officer who involved in the chance, the one that basically accused Ramos of cutting him off that was on the scene.

He didn't chase the suspect, so he didn't directly observe what happened. He however had to have heard the shots.

I think there may have been another officer there as well at that time, but I don't remember.

[deport]

He didn’t chase the suspect, so he didn’t directly observe what happened. He however had to have heard the shots.

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Thanks..... I did reread a little of the testimony and there is testimony from one of the investigating team members about one of the agents saying he heard shots but didn’t eleaborate on who fired them, etc. I haven’t looked up that agents testimony yet....

I wish I could get the transcript in a word program rather than pdf. For legal reasons the pdf makes it easy to refer to page and line number but for reading I’d love a copy in a more readable/printable format.

Anyway thanks for your input. I wonder about an organization that one feels it’s okay to cover up actions that are clearly reportable. We may need a total revamping of the agency, its leaders, etc. I’m not saying all are wrong or rogues but failure to follow protocol especially by those who are even charged with teaching it makes me wonder. Ramos got hammered on the stand about doing things their way....

Take care and thanks. Maybe this hearing will bring some needed change both in the laws and the agency structure if needed.

[ApplegateRanch]

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[gubamyster]

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[deport]

Thanks.... I’ve never tried coverting them so may have to look at this. I”ve seen files in pdf that are also offered in a word or html format.

[untrained skeptic]

I wonder about an organization that one feels it’s okay to cover up actions that are clearly reportable.

Yea, I got the impression the whole office there was a bit lax in following official policies, and that the supervisors were trying to cover their rear ends on that account.

[Tarkus2040]

I am not trying to start an argument, but why we are making Ramos and Compean heroes??

Illegal, drug-running alien scumbag crosses border into US.
US Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean intercept said alien.
Illegal alien scumbag assaults Compean, and turns towards Ramos with an "object" in hand.
Ramos, with pistol already drawn and fearing for his own life, fires at said illegal alien scumbag, hitting the drug trafficker in the buttocks as he turns to flee back across the border into Mexico.

The result? Agent Ramos successfully staves off an invasion and attack on US soil (an act of war), forcing the enemy to retreat back to where he came from. THAT'S a hero in my book! I don't know about you, but that's more than I've ever done to protect our country from this illegal invasion. Truth be told, it saddens me that this doesn't happen more often. My only advice to US Border Patrol Agents: Take more target practice, and don't forget the shovels!

[CodeToad]

“They not only broke the law, but also they made it impossible for Aldrete-Davila to ever be prosecuted.”

They did? Sounds like the prosecution lied. Besides, how can they have given Davila immunity?? If Davila got immunity he got it from the prosecutors.

[cmiller623]

You are whistling in the graveyard and there are many Americans who believe this was a test case for the pro-borders crowd to chill border agents from doing there jobs. Your pro legality stance will not carry the day. Do you believe in illegal immigration also?

[Perdogg]

there are many Americans who believe this was a test case for the pro-borders crowd

There are people who believe the Earth is flat, that doesn't make it so.

Do you believe in illegal immigration also?

Of course I don't. Neither do I believe you are a racist, xenophobe, or Nativist. Please, you can disagree without being disagreeable. By all means, close the border, but do it legally.

[Dante3]

Johnny Sutton is the villain in this case, along with the drug dealer. The minor infractions by Ramos and Compean should not even have caused them to lose their jobs. Ramos and Compean are not the only victims of Johnny Sutton who belongs in the same class as Mike Nifong - corrupt and evil.

[norton]

Bush has everything to do with this.

Period.

It is HIS border policy to ignore border policy.

It is HIS six years sucking up to a third world lame-assed oligarchy and pimping for an open border that encourage the ever increasing flood if ILLEGAL activities - nearly all moving north from mexico.

It is HIS last minute dash to get amnesty through congress that has literally dumped the GOP on its butt for 2008.

It is HIS inability to choose and nominate conservatives and/or capable administrators that gave us Colin Powell, Chertoff, Gonzalez, etc.

It is HIS 'aw shucks' lassitude that lets the democrats ride rough shod over procedures and the rule of law.

It's that same failure to stand up that has demoralized sitting members of congress, that left him powerless even with a majority - which they then lost!

Significantly, it was HIS policy to put the National Guard on the border - then left them with rules of engagement that stressed retreat.

Getting blown away by law enforcement should be considered an occupational hazard for drug runners - shooting one of them should not be an automatic conviction for the officer. Read more than one report of the trial, see where the evidence was withheld, where jurors were misled and where jurors recanted afterward. Try to balance the trial instead of condemning the agents off hand.

Define what that 'very generous' deal was and tell us if you would have taken a sure jail sentence rather than presenting your own case in court. [and, if your answer is "I'd have never pulled the trigger in the first place" then you've never had to make the choice]

[Perdogg]

Lying and covering up is a minor offense for a law enforcement officier??

[cmiller623]

Anyone come to the defense of your position yet? Standing on an island on this one.

[Perdogg]

I stand on my principles.