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"Truth be told" about Chimp-Human DNA comparisons (1% difference a "myth")
Access Research Network ^ | July 2, 2007 | David Tyler

Posted on 07/10/2007 10:17:24 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

"Truth be told" about Chimp-Human DNA comparisons

07/02/07

by David Tyler

"Truth be told" about Chimp-Human DNA comparisons For over 30 years, the public have been led to believe that human and chimpanzee genetics differ by mere 1%. This 'fact' of science has been used on innumerable occasions to silence anyone who offered the thought that humans are special among the animal kingdom. "Today we take as a given that the two species are genetically 99% the same." However, this "given" is about to be discarded....

(Excerpt) Read more at arn.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chimphumandna; creationscience; crevo; darwin; dna; intelligentdesign
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To: Hacksaw

I continue to be surprised when racism goes unopposed on FR. I guess I’m too much of an optimist.


81 posted on 07/10/2007 12:40:02 PM PDT by js1138
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To: GodGunsGuts
"For many, many years, the 1% difference served us well because it was underappreciated how similar we were."

How rather Ratherian. In other words, fake but accurate. It serves the purpose!

82 posted on 07/10/2007 12:40:14 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Evil never stops.)
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To: ZULU
It has been said in other threads from those with different insights than mine that if you believe in evolution, you can neither be conservative, a Christian or even a true, patriotic American:

"And therein lies the rub. In order for you to prove the theory of evolution and to have it universally accepted by all people as true fact, you must first completely destroy the Holy Bible and all it teaches us. There can be no Creator. No God. No miracles. God cannot possibly have created the Earth or the Heavens or Man and every Creature that walks swims or crawls. There was no Adam and Eve. No Garden of Eden. No original sin. There was no Noah. No Ark. No flood. No Moses. No burning bush. No Ten Commandments handed down from God. Jesus cannot possibly have been the Son of God, nor could he have died on the cross for our sins. The Resurrection could not possibly have happened. There is no Saviour and no Salvation. No life after death. No Heaven. No Hell. No God. No Satan. No good vs evil. Therefore all of Christianity, in fact, all of all religions are simply mythical fairy tales based on lies and superstition. The theory of evolution does not allow for the Holy Bible, or miracles including the miracle of Creation, the miracle of life, etc, or God our Creator, or Jesus Christ, or Christianity, Judaism, etc. The Declaration of Independence is therefore also a lie. If there is no Creator, our rights cannot possibly have come from God. In other words, we have no unalienable rights. Our rights would only be what the government allows us. The Declaration would be null and void and the founding would have been based on lies rather than "these truths we hold self-evident." The first amendment would simply be a cruel joke. The Bill of Rights would have no foundation on truth or unalienable rights from God and that would also make the entire Constitution of the United States null and void. All laws based on the Ten Commandments would be null and void. There would be no God to guide our judges and no reason not to bear false witness. Our entire American history, in fact all of civilization would be based on nothing but lies. Our ancestors passed down lies to our grand parents and parents and they lied to us and we have taught our children nothing but lies.

83 posted on 07/10/2007 12:44:32 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I remember in school we were told by our biology teacher that humans and watermelons are just 1% different in water content. So I said that if I drink more water I’ll be a watermelon?


84 posted on 07/10/2007 12:54:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("There Are Two Theories To Arguing With Women. Neither One Works")
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To: doc30

“..if you believe in evolution, you can neither be conservative, a Christian or even a true, patriotic American:”

Truly the remark of a myopic individual who thinks within a mental straight-jacket.


85 posted on 07/10/2007 12:56:02 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

““No other animal relies on cooked food,” he said””

I’ve seen dogs eat poop, too, but that doesn’t mean it’s a great addition to the human diet.


86 posted on 07/10/2007 12:58:38 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Paco

Man (Homo sapiens) is a primate.


87 posted on 07/10/2007 1:01:42 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: RFC_Gal

“Then why do great apes and man share the exact same genetic defect that makes it impossible for us to make our own vitamin C?”

Correlation and commonality are not the same as causation.


88 posted on 07/10/2007 1:03:28 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: -YYZ-

“Most people want to believe what they want to believe. That probably applies to most of us who believe in evolution, too.”

You’ve summed up the entire debate right there.

Everyone on both sides of this issue finds evidence to fit their own beliefs. Neither side looks at it objectively and dispassionately, even though both side claim to do so.


89 posted on 07/10/2007 1:20:45 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: scrabblehack

“Man (Homo sapiens) is a primate.”

You are referring to, “Planet of the Apes”....right?


90 posted on 07/10/2007 1:25:32 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
But lets not forget that it is now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the 1% difference is a myth/lie propagated by the Church of Darwin.

This statement can't be further from the truth as your own article proves it wrong. The 1% only deals with DNA sequences...and the DNA sequences are still 1% different.....as your article backs. That doesn't mean humans are 1% different than chimps...only that human DNA is 1% different than chimp DNA.

91 posted on 07/10/2007 1:34:14 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: sanchmo

Shhhhhh.....you’re making sense to this biologist....gotta go down to simpler thinking.


92 posted on 07/10/2007 1:39:04 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

That is a pretty neat display Alamo-Girl.


93 posted on 07/10/2007 1:44:26 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: fireforeffect
Darwin himself did not believe that Man and other species “evolved” from lower life forms.

So Origin of Species isn't really about speciation through natural selection?

94 posted on 07/10/2007 1:44:49 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Your argument is with the AAAS’s rag “Science”, not me:

“But truth be told, Wilson and King also noted that the 1% difference wasn’t the whole story. They predicted that there must be profound differences outside genes—they focused on gene regulation—to account for the anatomical and behavioral disparities between our knuckle-dragging cousins and us. Several recent studies have proven them perspicacious again, raising the question of whether the 1% truism should be retired.

‘For many, many years, the 1% difference served us well because it was underappreciated how similar we were,’ says Pascal Gagneux, a zoologist at UC San Diego. ‘Now it’s totally clear that it’s more a hindrance for understanding than a help.’”

Jon Cohen, News Focus on Evolutionary Biology, “Relative Differences: The Myth of 1%,” Science, 29 June 2007: Vol. 316. no. 5833, p. 1836, DOI: 10.1126/science.316.5833.1836.


95 posted on 07/10/2007 1:45:04 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: SMARTY
Anyone who thinks they are even remotely like monkeys, is an idiot.

Well, if they want to think that they're like monkeys for themselves, far be it from me to disagree with them...

96 posted on 07/10/2007 1:52:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ZULU; SMARTY
And anyone who thinks evolution implies we are decended from monkeys doesn’t know anythnig about science.

He never said he thought we were descended FROM monkeys. That's reading far more into it than he said.

However, evos on this thread are quite vocal about insisting that we are apes, so his sentiment is not so far off.

97 posted on 07/10/2007 1:58:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SengirV

The amazing elastic ToE. If it doesn’t work, stretch it to fit.


98 posted on 07/10/2007 2:02:00 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

We are not apes.

We are hominids. Apes and men are closely related - but you still have to realize that “close” is a relative term.

Modern man has been around only about 100,000 years or so. Before that, our non-”human” ancestors diverged from the line that gave rise to apes millions of years before that.

See: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/toumai.html


99 posted on 07/10/2007 2:03:36 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; GodGunsGuts

Can this little fiasco then put put into the fraud category the next time evos ask us for examples?


100 posted on 07/10/2007 2:04:14 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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