Posted on 07/09/2007 11:09:29 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
Toddler Was Denied Shower Access as Well:
A couple says their vacation was ruined when an RV park owner told them they weren't welcome after discovering their 2-year-old foster son had the HIV virus. Last week, Dick and Silvia Glover went to the Wales West RV Park in Silver Hill, Ala., with their foster son Caleb. When the boy was banned from using the pool and showers, the Glovers said they were offered an uncomfortable and painful choice: They could either keep Caleb out of the water or leave.
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No they won't. But they are good people (as people go) and the park owner is simply ignorant here. The parke owner has an attitude that is as repulsive as your attitude towards Alabama.
Neil Young is a great great great songwriter and musician, but Southern Man and Alabama Song are examples of the self congratulatory, preening pseudomorality which is every bit as selfrighteous and bigoted as ole green tooth in "Uneasy Rider" (if you missed that Charley Daniels tune).
You clearly know about as much about theology as you do about Alabama.
That said, I believe there are better ways of dealing with this than inviting the pretty airheads (network news) in to "expose" the guy. There is enough stupidity on all counts here to fill the guy's pool without any water at all.
You can’t get hiv through the feces or urine, because 1: there are trace amounts of the virus in feces and urine: 2: The virus cannot live outside the body, 3: the water in general kills HIV 4: poolwater is chlorinated and it kills hiv immediately.
Swimming in a pool with hiv is a non issue because the virus is very weak when it gets outside the body.
Ain't that the truth! Even a pair of paints can ballon into a double digit lawsuit! But in this case, if the parents of the child sue, the park operator is stuck either way.
Carolyn
“If a child has ever used a public pool, there is probably a 100% chance that they have come in contact with someone with something that is contagious and/or harmful.”
When I was a kid, that’s how pretty much everything got spread, especially pink-eye.
That's an interesting argument, but the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Americans with Disabilities Act both define "public accommodations" as including certain private establishments, including the RV park and swimming pool in question.
I don't want your help, I didn't ask for your help and I certainly don't respect anything you say and the way you say it.
I've been reading your posts to all the other people who are on this thread, and would invite others to do so. You are one egomaniac.
Point me towards a legitimate scientific study not performed by a homosexual with an obvious agenda and I’ll listen.
Which does not negate the fact that the virus can be transmitted through saliva. You were incorrect when you said it "Can't". Given the hyper politicization of the HIV virus, I would suspect that the possibility is even greater than stated.
Nobody has ever contracted HIV from kissing anybody, and that includes people in long term romantic relationships with HIV+ people.
I didn't realize you were an expert in pathology in addition to evolution of species (sarc). Given the fact that saliva is a possible transmission vector and the fact that there is no cure for aids, would you allow your kids to take that chance?
And you're worried about getting infected from being spat on?
Well, I didn't say that, but since you decided to bring it up, I wouldn't appreciate getting spat on in the first place. Saliva can contain all kinds of germs. Why do think it is impolite to not cover your mouth when you cough?
As an aside, if it is so difficult to get aids, why do the lobbies say "we are all at risk"?
So how did the parents announce this little health fact...
I don’t think it is possible to communicate the HIV virus through pool water.
Sounds like shopping for a lawsuit in advance.
Ever see a two year old run and fall down? Ever see one fall and end up with a cut on their head (head wounds bleed profusely)? A two year old at a public swimming pool (reported by the foster parent as having HIV) - the sides of public swimming pools (most often of concrete) can be wet - wet concrete can be slippery when wet. The child, running, slips and falls and cuts his/her head on the poolside and bleeds profusely. People coming to the aid of the child gets the child's blood on them. If any person has an open wound - Bingo, bodily fluid transfer from an HIV infected person. Yes, there are probably huge numbers of people who are swimming at public pools who are HIV positive. Yes, this scenereo could happen anywhere without people being aware. That is not the issue here. The owners/operators were informed of the potential health hazard and made a decision. End of story.
You have not addressed my issue. If it takes three, four or five years for HIV to manifest itself how could you remember where you got it if you have no real clue when you got it?
Why don't you address this?
Actually, the virus cannot be transmitted through saliva even though trace amounts are found in saliva because HIV needs a very high viral load to infect a person. The viral load in spit isn’t enough to infect anybody. Heck, most of the times (99.97%) it’s not even able to transmit through semen because the viral load is so low.
Oh, and to the person that wanted a “non-homosexual agenda” link about HIV, here you go.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/index.htm
The CDC itself says that HIV is a weak virus.
Therefore, it cannot be transmitted in a pool.
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