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SCIENCE Magazine Waffles on Warming
american thinker ^ | 07/09/2007 | milwguy

Posted on 07/09/2007 6:30:54 AM PDT by milwguy

The American scientific establishment is starting to take baby steps away from taking sides in the politics of global warming. It's sad to have to read science articles for political spin, like some announcement by the Kremlin.

The last issue of SCIENCE is waffling like mad on the global warming fad, warning its readers that it may not be so settled a question. Under the headline "Another Global Warming Icon Comes Under Attack," SCIENCE writer Richard Kerr writes: "...a group of mainstream atmospheric scientists is disputing a rising icon of global warming, and researchers are giving some ground." ...

"Robert Charlson of the University of Washington, Seattle, (is) one of three authors of a commentary published online last week in Nature Reports: Climate Change. ... he and his co-authors argue that the simulation by 14 different climate models of the warming in the 20th century is not the reassuring success IPCC claims it to be." (IPCC is the supposed international scientific consensus document on global warming - JL). "... In the run-up to the IPCC climate science report released last February ... 14 groups ran their models under 20th-century conditions of rising greenhouse gases. ... But the group of three atmospheric scientists ... says the close match between models and the actual warming is deceptive. The match "conveys a lot more confidence [in the models] than can be supported in actuality," says Schwartz. [....]

"Greenhouse gas changes are well known, they note, but not so the counteracting cooling of pollutant hazes, called aerosols. Aerosols cool the planet by reflecting away sunlight and increasing the reflectivity of clouds. Somehow, the three researchers say, modelers failed to draw on all the uncertainty inherent in aerosols so that the 20th-century simulations look more certain than they should." [Italics added]

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: agw; algore; blaspheminggore; globalwarming; liveearth
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The global warming balloon's hot air is starting to leak! CALLING AL GORE, we need you to pontificate a little more to refill the hot air leaking out of your balloon.
1 posted on 07/09/2007 6:30:56 AM PDT by milwguy
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Mmmm, warm waffles.


2 posted on 07/09/2007 6:33:00 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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That’s just not right... Now I crave some WaHo pecan waffles slathered in butter and maple syrup. mmmmmmm.


3 posted on 07/09/2007 6:36:08 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Duncan Hunter in 2008! http://www.gohunter08.com))
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A cynic would say that they are doing this now because they don’t want to put Hillary or Obama in the awkward position of actually having to do something about global warming if they win the Presidency.

Of course, they don’t mind putting the screws to Bush, though.


4 posted on 07/09/2007 6:36:12 AM PDT by Brilliant
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LOVE the waffles, also like the last few lines in the article.................Now “90 percent confidence” might sound like a lot. But in standard scientific publications a 95 percent confidence level is the minimum acceptable level. The reason is that one can just run a study 10 times, and achieve a 90 percent confidence level purely by chance. So we normally demand a higher standard of proof -— at least 95 percent confidence. The data in the SCIENCE graph therefore does not meet routine scientific standards.

Many scientists will read this item as a red flag, cautioning that all is not well in the global warming game.

Happy Earth Day - and never forget that telling the truth is the first, indispensible step toward wise management of our resources.


5 posted on 07/09/2007 6:36:48 AM PDT by milwguy
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Hey, a picture like that is not fair!!! Now I have a hankerin for a big waffle and a side of bacon and homefries.

And no pictures of Kerry!


6 posted on 07/09/2007 6:37:22 AM PDT by hophead
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It's sad to have to read science articles for political spin, like some announcement by the Kremlin.

An astute, and sad, observation. This sudden reverence for "consensus" in science has become a pretty pathetic thing to behold.
7 posted on 07/09/2007 6:37:41 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Friend of Fred.)
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cooling of pollutant hazes, called aerosols. Aerosols cool the planet by reflecting away sunlight and increasing the reflectivity of clouds

Someone is laying the groundwork for the great panic of 2020. Stop the cars! Turn off the electricity! Kill the surplus population! Industrialization is leading to Global Cooling! We've known this since 2007, and we have done NOTHING to stop it!

8 posted on 07/09/2007 6:38:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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But the group of three atmospheric scientists ... says the close match between models and the actual warming is deceptive. The match "conveys a lot more confidence [in the models] than can be supported in actuality," says Schwartz.

Wake me when their models can accurately forecast the climate of the 20th century using the known data and the current modeling assumptions.

If I had the money, I would offer $1 million to anyone who could produce such a model and have it successfully peer reviewed by credentialed climatologists.

Actually, I suppose I could make the same offer even though I don't have the $1 million, since there is apparently no model that can meet the challenge, so I'd never have to pay out.

9 posted on 07/09/2007 6:42:11 AM PDT by Maceman
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Gore!


Click here to see the video

Al Bore invented the Internet.

Putfile Version (Higher quality)


Here's Another video showing what an imbecile Al Bore is.

Since it's Al Bore's day in the spotlight, let's push these Al Gore videos up on the YouTube rankings for him. Vote for them! Mark them as favorites, and link to them.


Good anti-Global Warming video that picks apart Gore's stupid film.

10 posted on 07/09/2007 6:45:51 AM PDT by Bon mots
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Some “Experts” who were left off the Money Train realize they aren’t going to profit from the Crisis. May as well hedge your bets and become a skeptic.
11 posted on 07/09/2007 6:48:54 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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Put Al Gore in the “lock box” for good.


12 posted on 07/09/2007 6:54:40 AM PDT by mattdono (150 Million bloodthirsty Arabs vs. 4.8 Million Jewish Israelis. That's not fair. [Off Sarcasm])
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Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:


13 posted on 07/09/2007 6:56:59 AM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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I wish National Geographic would get off their GoreBull warming agenda!


14 posted on 07/09/2007 6:59:18 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Most scientists, while nurtured at the bosom of academic leftism, are still scientists and as such know the power of peer review, especially over time. In their hearts, they want to be oh-so-good little algore-hugging leftists. But in their heads, they know they run the risk of being ridiculed, eventually and forever.


15 posted on 07/09/2007 7:00:28 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Maceman

You know, I had a revelation sometime this past weekend. It suddenly occured to me that the nutty environ-mental-ists are responsible for what global warming we have at this time. Because of them the air is too clean. The natural carbon based pollutants were keeping the suns heat tempered to an acceptable level. Now we are getting bombarded by the direct sun rays that are dangerous to our health. So, just like the burning of our forests because of overgrowth, the mental cases are killing us by sun.


16 posted on 07/09/2007 7:02:45 AM PDT by WVNan
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bookmarked


17 posted on 07/09/2007 7:07:02 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I wish National Geographic would get off their GoreBull warming agenda!

The National Geographic went hard left many years ago and they will hang on to Global Warming until their masters tell them it's ok to let it go.

A damn shame too. It used to be something you wanted you kids to read, but now it's not much more than a propaganda sheet with great photos.

18 posted on 07/09/2007 7:08:56 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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Yep, in a few more years we’re going to be looking back and laughing at all of this bunk the way we do now with Y2K and the old “ice age” fears, and everyone who fell for all this hysterical rubbish is going to feel really silly.


19 posted on 07/09/2007 7:12:26 AM PDT by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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The earth is huge. We're dots on the surface. Look at the oceans. Look at what they emit into the atmosphere.

And if the earth is huge, the universe is "enormous", absolutely uncalculable and the effects of the universe ON THE EARTH is unimaginable.

We like the fact that the sun rises and sets everyday but the universe is systematically chaotic...storms, volcanoes, sun spots.

We're dots.

20 posted on 07/09/2007 7:17:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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