Posted on 07/04/2007 2:07:25 PM PDT by blam
'Spooky' website calls doctors to jihad
By John Steele, Crime Correspondent
Last Updated: 8:22pm BST 04/07/2007
A group of 45 Muslim doctors threatened to use car bombs and rocket grenades in terrorist attacks in the United States during discussions on an extremist internet chat site, it has emerged.
Anti-terrorist police found details of the discussions on a jihadi site run by one of a three-strong “cyber-terrorist” gang.
They were discovered at the home of Younis Tsouli, 23, Woolwich Crown Court in south east London heard.
One message, thought to have been sent on February 12 2005, read: 'We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America.'
“The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy.”
This is thought to have been a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida.
The message discussed targets at the base, adding: 'These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units.”
It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.
Tsouli replied to the message by saying “He needs the recipe for making car bombs,” and a “recipe” was supplied by one contributor, including gas cylinders as one ingredient.
Investigators have found no link between the Tsouli chat room and the group of doctors and medics currently in custody over attempted car bomb attacks in London and Glasgow.
However, sources said it was “definitely spooky” that the use of doctors for terrorist purposes was being discussed in jihadi terrorist circles up to three years ago.
Part of the inquiry into the London and Glasgow incidents will focus on whether al-Qa’eda has recruited doctors or other medical professionals because they are less likely to attract suspicion and can move easily around the western world.
The three “cyber terrorists” - a British national and two who had been given the right to live in the UK - are facing lengthy jail sentences after admitting using the internet to spread al-Qa’eda propaganda inciting Muslims to violent holy war and murder non-believers.
They had close links with al-Qa’eda in Iraq and believed they had to fight jihad against a global conspiracy by kuffars, or non-believers, to wipe out Islam.
They were also linked to an extremist in Bosnia, who was jailed after police seized guns, explosives and videos espousing anti-western hatred, and to others in Sweden.
The three are the first defendants in Britain to be convicted of inciting terrorist murder on the internet.
Other cases, such as Abu Hamza, have involved incitement in speeches or at public meetings. Instead, the three waged cyber-jihad on websites run from their bedrooms.
Tsouli promoted the ideology of Osama bin Laden via email and radical websites using the cyber name 'Irhaby007’ - which means 'Terrorist 007’ in Arabic.
He said in one message he was “very happy” about the July 7 bombings in London in 2005.
Tsouli, Tariq Al-Daour, a biochemistry student, and Waseem Mughal, a law student, were all intelligent, computer-literate young men who spent a year pumping out violent propaganda.
They created chat forums to direct willing fighters to Iraq and discuss murderous bomb attacks around the world. Films of hostages and beheadings were found by police.
They included footage of the British hostage, Ken Bigley, pleading for his life and two Americans, Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, being killed.
Al-Daour, 21, of Bayswater, west London, who was born in the United Arab Emirates, today admitted inciting another person to commit and act of terrorism wholly or partly outside the United Kingdom which would, if committed in England and Wales, constitute murder.
Moroccan-born Tsouli, 23, of Shepherd’s Bush, west London, and British-born Mughal, 24, of Chatham, Kent, admitted the same charge on Monday. They are due to be sentenced tomorrow.
They also admitted conspiring together and with others to defraud banks, credit card companies and charge card companies.
Material on their computers, if printed out, would stand tens of thousands of feet high.
Al-Daour had CDs containing instructions for making explosives and poisons, including a recipe for creating a rotten meat toxin which, in its pure form, is “the most toxic substance known to man”, the court was told.
A leaflet on how to use a rocket-propelled grenade, and pages from “The Book of Jihad”, as well a video about the September 11 terror attacks.
Police found instructions on causing an explosion with “rocket propellant’’ and constructing a car bomb, and a video film about a “Martyrdom Operations Vest’’ - a reference to a suicide bomb vest. In one on-line conversation, when Al-Daour was asked what he would do with £1 million, he replied: “Sponsor terrorist attacks, become the new Osama.”
In another conversation, he said suicide bombings were permissible but he did not like them unless they killed many people because “a Muslim life is worth more than that”.
The three men outwardly appeared to be leading normal lives, studying and living with their parents.
Tsouli had come to the UK with his family from Morocco in 2001 and his father worked for the Moroccan tourist board. He was given indefinite leave to stay in August 2005 - two months before his arrest.
Mughal, a British citizen born in this country, had a degree in Biochemistry from Leicester University and was studying for his Masters.
Al-Daour, born in the UAE to Palestinian parents, was granted British citizenship in May 2005 and had applied to start a law degree.
Doctors Terrorists Without Borders ping!
Islamist doctors are just plain terrifying. Expect lots more of these creeps, as the government control of medicine drives all the American doctors out of practice, like in the UK.
Did you notice that the Dept of State suddenly withdrew the 60,000 visas it had awarded earlier for “professionals” to come to the US? This just happened yesterday, I believe; the lawyers are already lining up. But I bet the UK’s experience had a lot to do with it.
Pretty f’in pathetic. Years of chemistry and physics and these morons can only put gasoline containers in a car and then set themselves on fire. Very sophisticated! Doctors??These guys couldn’t pass a 6th grade science exam!
Yes, but they have a DEEP and abiding LOVE for goats!!!
Should I, G_d Forbid, end up needing medical care beyond what my professional pill pusher can provide, there’s no way I’m letting a mohammedan cut on me.
Christian, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist or Confucian, no problem, but if he answers none of the above, I’m out of there.
They must know the US moderately well if they know Jacksonville. I live near there, and I have always thought that if there were an attack, that’s where it would be. I think it’s known that there are AQ members in Jax; it appears on the “Islamic nutcase map” that somebody here posts from time to time.
I'm betting there were suspicions already. The UK thing was the confirmation, huh?
Someone yesterday said it was related to the Immigration Bill. I think it's more along this line.
This is going to make it rough for any Muslim doctor and probably a few who may look Muslim, but aren’t. It’ll be rough for them in the UK and here in the US and Australia. This is bound to drive many Muslims to speak out about the terrorists among them.
NOT an encouraging report. Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida is mentioned.
Thank you for the heads up, Girlene.
I don’t think it had anything to do with the immigration bill, but I was on a thread where people actually seemed to believe that having all these Muslim doctors coming here was a good thing and Bush cancelled it out of annoyance at the failure of the immigration bill!
I remember reading about these visas when the offer was first made, and I thought it was a bad thing at the time. Obviously, the UK events have proved this to be the case. But I bet you’re right about some prior info all coming together after the bombings.
I went to the DoS visa web page but did not notice any announcement about the cancellation/withdrawal. Could I bother you for a source? I tried a search engine as well.
I had heard that DoS had an “emergency exception” clause by which it could act swiftly regarding visas. Just have never seen anything non-military in the federal government be so suddenly responsive.
Question # 1: Would a ME veterinarian recognize a lesion caused by Bacillus anthracsis??
It’s on FR. Here you go:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1860704/posts
I was wrong though. The plan was actually cancelled on June 13. Makes you wonder...
That’s an interesting question...
Most of our ME people in North Florida are taxi drivers, convenience store and liquor store owners, and - of course - medical personnel.
“20 some years ago, I had a Muslim surgeon. He was wonderful. But I admit that today, I would probably look elsewhere. Sad but true.”
We’ve been seen by an Indian internist for 25 years. He’s retiring and another Indian, newly arrived is taking his place.
My current physican is Hindu.
I hope the replacement isn’t Muslim.
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