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The Selfishness Of The "Chamber Of Commerce" Crowd On Illegal Immigration
Townhall ^ | 06/29/2007 | John Hawkins

Posted on 06/29/2007 9:43:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Carry_Okie

The open border lobby minority tells us often that no American has a right to a job or a good wage. Curious isn’t it though, they have no problem with corporations being guaranteed a profit, even if it’s gotten illegally and at the expense of US citizens.


41 posted on 06/29/2007 12:55:55 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: goldfinch
One of the worst thing about the government's failure to crack down on the employers of illegals is that is forces other employers to use illegal labor to stay competitive.

You describe the exact thing that happened with the practice of slavery in our early history. I've researched this for 3 years for a book. Many families suffered in poverty for generations avoiding succumbing to owning slaves. They had big families and worked themselves to death and got nowhere for generations. Others were 'benevolent' slave owners because they dispised the practice, but slave owners non the less. It became a choice of poverty or economic security. I hate seeing us left with that choice again.

42 posted on 06/29/2007 1:05:53 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
You describe the exact thing that happened with the practice of slavery in our early history.

You describe the exact thing that happened with the practice of slavery in our early Roman history.

43 posted on 06/29/2007 1:12:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Indeed.


44 posted on 06/29/2007 1:21:13 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

true


45 posted on 06/29/2007 1:28:46 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

46 posted on 06/29/2007 1:33:18 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Crooked politicians have been helping crooked businesses break the law.


47 posted on 06/29/2007 1:45:16 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation- without it you have amnesty.)
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To: Mamzelle
The Chamber of Commerce and the Wall Street Journal would bring back slavery if they could just call it by another name.

They brought back treason by calling it "Comprehensive Immigration Reform".

48 posted on 06/29/2007 1:47:38 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation- without it you have amnesty.)
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To: Mamzelle

I will do my part and notify them I want Martinez removed.

I was afraid about the Lindsey Graham deal that Rove would be right there with money and support. He needs to go yesterday.

Your scenario happened here in OK in 2004 with Dr. Coburn. The WH candidate did not win the primary so Rove dried up DC money for Dr. Tom but he had one of the largest grassroots movements I have ever seen. I personally made over 10,000 phone calls and we elected Dr. Tom without help of the WH — President never did come into campaign for him.


49 posted on 06/29/2007 1:58:43 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

So, The WH wanted a Dem in that seat, do you think?


50 posted on 06/29/2007 2:02:34 PM PDT by Mamzelle (We need a new, conservative chairman of the RNC first, because the elites are about to take revenge)
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To: Mamzelle

Their candidate lost in the primary to Dr. Tom — when he first started running he was going to get all kinds of money from DC. He got clobbered by Dr. Tom in the primary and money dried up, phoney polls were put out, the President refused to campaign in OK, and two weeks before the election Speaker Hastert and Bill Frist said that Dr. Tom was going to lose according to the polls (which we now know were phoney) which set off a firestorm here.

Found out earlier this month that in 2004, Rove started drying up funds for any candidates that were against illegal immigration and it hit me that is what happened to Dr. Tom. He was against illegals and his Dem opponent was a former staffer for the Clinton WH and we know how he would have voted. He even worked in Hillary’s NY office after the Clintons left the WH.

Do I think this WH with Rove and Bush would have preferred Carson, absolutely now that I know a lot more than I did in 2004! Look at 2006 and the GOP members that were for border security and against illegals and how many lost.


51 posted on 06/29/2007 2:15:51 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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Amazing. Destroying your party's majority for amnesty--and this would also mean an Dem who'd likely oppose the WOT...

I'm also looking at the defeat of Hayworth in AZ. That was supposedly the "proof" that opposing illegal immigration was a "loser"...

So, the morning after the election, Bush and Rove were "high fiving" each other over their successful strategy.

We been fragged.

52 posted on 06/29/2007 2:21:23 PM PDT by Mamzelle (We need a new, conservative chairman of the RNC first, because the elites are about to take revenge)
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To: gubamyster

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

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Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!


53 posted on 06/29/2007 2:34:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Mamzelle

I have talked to a few people in AZ and they feel Rove was against Hayworth from the beginning. In fact, one of them told me if Hayworth had the money at the end, he could have won.

From what some of us can tell, they dry up the incumbents money by getting him a primary challenger, and then dry up the incumbents money from NRCC or NRSC along with RNC in the general.

The following I found on a website that dated back to 2004 and is what connected the dots in the Coburn race:

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Sources say that in recent weeks, word has gone out from Karl Rove’s office that Republican congressional candidates who fail to “stay away” from the issue of illegal immigration risk losing the financial support of their national party. While this is not surprising (when the Wall Street Journal called for contributions recently to the campaign of Chris Cannon, whose support for amnesties forced him into a bruising primary, former Enron lobbyist and Republican National Committee chair Ed Gillespie responded with a personal donation of $500.00), it’s difficult to see the wisdom in preventing Republican candidates from speaking about an issue that polls consistently show the vast majority of Americans of both parties care so deeply about.

While the White House works to suppress the issue of illegal immigration at the convention, there is talk in as many as a dozen state GOP parties about adopting state party “no amnesty” planks. That nearly a quarter of the country’s GOP hierarchy would consider what amounts to open rebellion against the unpopular Gillespie and the Wall Street Journal extremists demonstrates the fissure that is widening between rank and file Republicans and the corporate globalists who wield such influence within the party.

http://www.kfi640.com/immigration.html


54 posted on 06/29/2007 2:46:08 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They pay for every phone call which is even sweeter!


55 posted on 06/29/2007 2:47:02 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

Do you mind if I post this on the Graham thread?


56 posted on 06/29/2007 2:55:31 PM PDT by Mamzelle (We need a new, conservative chairman of the RNC first, because the elites are about to take revenge)
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To: Mamzelle

Post it everywhere you can find because everyone needs to know what this WH has been doing since 2004. I didn’t know it until recently but I did confirm with my Senator’s office this is exactly what happened in 2004.

I have linked to the article for anyone to check it out.


57 posted on 06/29/2007 2:57:29 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

Thanks for posting this information. It answers some of the questions I’ve had regarding this administration’s illegal immigration position.


58 posted on 06/29/2007 3:40:22 PM PDT by tropical
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To: tropical

You’re welcome! I was shocked when I found it but all of a sudden 2004 and 2006 elections made sense including the President’s comments the night of the 2006 that he looked forward to working with the Dem leadership to pass immigration reform.


59 posted on 06/29/2007 4:08:50 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Thanks for posting this article about fleece-traders.

Their attitude, right from the beginning to the bitter end of the bill in the Senate yesterday was, “We want to bring in as much cheap labor as humanly possible now, next year, and forever more to fatten our wallets and we want everyone else to pick up the tab for it. If it puts American workers out of a job, we don’t care. If it drives their wages down, so much the better, because that means we make more money. If we have to leave the borders open and risk another 9/11, that’s fine with us. If we have to get the bill through by demonizing as racists the very people who have staunchly defended us on issue after issue, it doesn’t bother us a bit. Long story short, if anyone doesn’t like what we want to do, tough, because we bought these senators with our campaign contributions, we own them, and it’s our way or the highway.” In other words, for a lot of these companies that knowingly hire illegals, this is all about raw, unbridled greed.


60 posted on 06/29/2007 4:39:28 PM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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