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The Selfishness Of The "Chamber Of Commerce" Crowd On Illegal Immigration
Townhall ^ | 06/29/2007 | John Hawkins

Posted on 06/29/2007 9:43:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Ultra Sonic 007

These businesses that are knowingly hiring massive numbers of illegals are criminal enterprises,
***I forgot to post my usual idea. There’s something we can do about it: a Racketeering, Influencing, and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) lawsuit.

RICO lawyers could turn it around in a few years and MAKE MONEY at the same time. I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.

In the absence of enforcement, we can get the word out in the meantime that there is money to be made in filing RICO lawsuits against employers who hire illegal aliens.

Employers would have no trouble shutting down the border if they could get sued by someone under the RICO statutes for hiring these people in the first place. The next time an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or somesuch thing, I’m going to point out that the victim’s family might be able to seek compensation from the employer under these statutes in the hopes that it would catch on. If this did catch on, would see such a swift backlash against illegal immigration that no employer would go near these people and they’ll all simply want to go back home.


61 posted on 06/29/2007 4:41:47 PM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
QUISLING: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.

U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

62 posted on 06/29/2007 5:24:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: PhiKapMom

It’s extremely helpful to know what was happening out of plain view. And yes, yes, yes I remember those remarks after the November ‘06 election - I as I recall I wasn’t happy to hear that remark.


63 posted on 06/29/2007 5:27:40 PM PDT by tropical
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

My long time Russian gardener has been told that I do not want Illegal Aliens working around my house. He has had two Mexican workers for a number of years, but they worked at my house only once.

Buinesses who are greedy enough to hire illegals should have to pay the price, if not from the gubmint then by being boycotted by the consumer.


64 posted on 06/29/2007 6:08:22 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


65 posted on 06/29/2007 6:37:06 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: tropical

Was at the State Watch Party in OKC when those comments came across. Guy behind me says look for Immigration to become the number one issue because now the *** thinks the Dems can get it passed. Then he wondered how many candidates in 2006 were tanked by the WH who were against his Immigration bill. Little did he realize it started in 2004!

All the threats against the Senators by the WH/Rove in the last few weeks brought back that comment on election night that Tony Snow brought us from the President. That is why I was searching to see if I could find any verification to what I was thinking that in 2004/2006 anti-illegal immigration candidates were not supported by Rove/WH. That’s how I found the quotes from KFI dating back to 2004.

Remember wondering why Rove/Bush were supporting Specter over Toomey. Something about that race made no sense. This week it made perfect sense with Specter’s comments in favor of this travesty of a bill.

All of a sudden every thing has started making sense much to my disgust.


66 posted on 06/29/2007 6:41:54 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: cripplecreek; AuntB; indcons

“Free enterprise doesn’t mean allowing companies to go outside the country for cheap labor while making it illegal for citizens to go outside the country in search of cheaper medicines.”

Very well-put. Also, note my tagline.


67 posted on 06/29/2007 7:16:32 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Did anyone read the good piece today on MSNBC.com about the family which tried to get through a single week without buying something from China? The 2002 Farm Bill mandated country of origin labeling for all food products—but the Bush Administration has DELAYED its implementation for anything but seafood. This is because of strong lobbying from the Chamber of Commerce. Companies which manufacture nothing and employ no Americans and only make the profit on the difference could not give a crap about your family’s safety. Their influence must be cut out like a cancer.


68 posted on 06/30/2007 5:32:56 AM PDT by montag813
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To: goldfinch
Fox was the first President elected that was NOT from the old corrupt party...and the current President is the second. They have enacted some reforms. And they may be the best we can hope for in Mexico for a while.

Nice spin. Remember that Vicente Fox is the man whom George W. Bush introduced to us two weeks before 9/11 as "America's new best friend" -- remember? And the Canadians were sitting around looking at each other and saying, "wait a minute, what are we, chopped liver?" And the Canadians were right -- we had two world wars with Canadians as allies, and they had also helped our diplomats in Tehran in 1979, employing (and exposing) their own diplomatic positions to protect Americans from falling into the hands of the thug Ahmadinejad and the rest of the Pasdaran.

Then the balloon went up, and the presidente of Mexico found himself called away to his estancia on important business. And it was the prime minister of Great Britain who showed up sitting in the gallery of our House of Representatives, catching our backs while fat women danced in the West Bank.

Remember the last election was very close and the loser, a Socialist the Chavez mode, staged a months-long sit-in claiming the election results were invalid.

Well, of course we'll have to deal with the resuscitated Monimbo' scenario, as the America-haters, led now by Hugo Chavez, try to roll up Central America and Mexico and launch a civil war inside the United States. The really ugly scenario is that they may have Chinese military and political help as well.

But Vicente Fox and his party have not been our friends on this issue. They have continued to flood the United States with Mexican nationals and to maintain contact with racist, Aztlanist elements in U.S. political circles, including the racist mayor of Los Angeles, Villaraigosa.

69 posted on 07/01/2007 5:03:41 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: PhiKapMom
The WH candidate did not win the primary so Rove dried up DC money for Dr. Tom but he had one of the largest grassroots movements I have ever seen.

George W. Bush, going back to when he was governor of Texas, has shown a consistent pattern, that he has never been called on publicly, of failing to sustain, and of actively opposing, conservative candidates. He did this repeatedly in Texas primary races while both governor and President, and Rick Perry has continued the pattern as governor.

Mind you, while governor, Bush ran primary opponents in school board elections against incumbent conservative Republicans.

Never, ever called on it. Not once. The press loves it, and they keep his secrets for him and Perry on account of it.

70 posted on 07/01/2007 5:09:22 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Just found out this week that Rove was fired from the 1992 Bush 41 campaign for leaking to Robert Novak too!


71 posted on 07/01/2007 5:23:26 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Thomas J. Donohue, President and CEO, U.S. Chamber of Commerce

Amnesty

Patrick D. wrote: "A nation not governed by the rule of law is headed for trouble. The illegal immigrants have broken the law and are getting away with it because our politicians don't care. Rewarding law breakers is a terrible precedent."

My response: By definition, amnesty is the forgiveness of an offense without penalty. This proposal is not amnesty (LIAR!) because illegal workers must acknowledge that they broke the law, pay a significant fine, and undergo criminal background checks to obtain a Z visa granting only temporary legal status. Z visa holders who want to apply for a green card must pay an additional fine, return home, and get in line behind those who have applied lawfully.

72 posted on 07/01/2007 5:30:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: PhiKapMom
So Rove worked for Poppy......

There's your connection, 41 with 43, and all the NWO stuff. And here I thought the primary links were Cheney and Condi and Colin Powell.

Interesting.

Wonder if 43 inherited his tender solicitude for gays from 41 as well? They've always been very weak on social and moral issues as a group. Poppy, when he was a congressman here in Houston, ran and served as a Rockefeller Republican, and a milquetoastier guy you couldn't wish for. Dick Nixon disliked him and had little use for him (story about Bush 41 often told by a Democrat campaign consultant that Nixon was friends with on a personal basis in his post-retirement, post-Watergate years: Nixon's estimate of 41 was that Bush was the sort of fellow you'd never trust with anything important, but he was always around and sort of in the way, so that you had to recognize him -- and the best way to do that was by appointing him to something). Wonder if 41 had a lot of friends from Yale days that he wanted to protect. Ditto 43.

What was Rove leaking to Bob Novak, any idea?

73 posted on 07/01/2007 5:33:39 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The Chamber of Commerce and groups like it have been allowed to hijack a large part of the process and even write part of the legislation.

Chamber of Commerce and other special interests are having a hand in offering the legislation.

One Republican Hill staffer complained, “The Chamber has seen more than the senators when it comes to the actual writing on paper.”

Senator Kennedy has been inviting the stakeholders of this bill to come in. So that’s the Chamber of Commerce. And it’s the National Council of La Raza, and it’s the immigration attorneys. Basically, the stakeholders are people who make money or gain power off of it.

http://tinyurl.com/2aklj2


74 posted on 07/01/2007 5:36:07 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: PhiKapMom
Your link to the story at the AM radio station tanked.

I can see the station's website, but the story has been pulled. Someone reading FR made a phone call?

75 posted on 07/01/2007 5:41:25 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

In 1992 in an incident well known in Texas, Mr. Rove was fired from the state campaign to re-elect the first President Bush on suspicions that Mr. Rove had leaked damaging information to Mr. Novak about Robert Mosbacher Jr., the campaign manager and the son of a former commerce secretary.

In a related article, it says that Mosbacher still believes today that Rove was the one that leaked so Rove goes back to 1992 leaking to Novak.

I found it interesting that Rove leaked to Novak back then and would bet he is the leak to Novak on the Wilson deal that Libby is going to prison.


76 posted on 07/01/2007 7:20:43 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I found it searching for something else and all of a sudden the pieces fell into place. Does you make you wonder about someone reading this. Freaky actually.


77 posted on 07/01/2007 7:24:30 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I found it on 18 June 2007 and sent it out in email and then posted on here in a thread so someone would have had to be reading the threads.


78 posted on 07/01/2007 7:27:16 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom
In 1992 in an incident well known in Texas, Mr. Rove was fired from the state campaign to re-elect the first President Bush on suspicions that Mr. Rove had leaked damaging information to Mr. Novak about Robert Mosbacher Jr., the campaign manager and the son of a former commerce secretary.

I met the old man, Robert Mosbacher Sr. Well-known oil man, my company partnered with him and went to an offshore lease sale in, um, 1985 I think it was.

Rob Junior always had a sort of stamp as a houseboy for the Bush family. Although I would have liked to see him mayor of Houston; he was certainly a better man than the people he ran against. But both he and Orlando Sanchez, a later candidate for mayor of Houston (and other offices), were somewhat stifled by their closeness to Manor Bush. Sanchez was the Cuban pool boy and Mosbacher was the houseboy, coolie looksee pidgin chop chop.

I'd still like to know if that photo taken what, 15 years ago? of the Bush brothers strolling across the tarmac at the airport in Mena, Ark., is legitimate, and if so, what they were doing in Bill Clinton's favorite weekend sneak-away pickup spot, who took the photo, and why.

79 posted on 07/02/2007 2:20:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: kcvl
Senator Kennedy has been inviting the stakeholders of this bill to come in. So that’s the Chamber of Commerce. And it’s the National Council of La Raza

Don't forget the Mexican intellectuals and political criollo leadership who've never forgiven us for the two wars with Mexico. They are vindictive and revanchist.

80 posted on 07/02/2007 2:28:24 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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