The Selfishness Of The "Chamber Of Commerce" Crowd On Illegal Immigration

Townhall ^ | 06/29/2007 | John Hawkins

[Carry_Okie]

The globalists expect the American taxpayer to protect their "interests" while defunding the means to afford it. They are betraying American contributions of intellectual and financial capital to the portability of their enterprises.

They are traitors in every sense of the word.

[org.whodat]

That's why it was so disappointing that none of that seemed to mean anything to the "Chamber of Commerce" crowd when it comes to the illegal immigration issue. Their attitude, right from the beginning to the bitter end of the bill in the Senate yesterday was, "We want to bring in as much cheap labor as humanly possible now, next year, and forever more to fatten our wallets and we want everyone else to pick up the tab for it. If it puts American workers out of a job, we don't care. If it drives their wages down, so much the better, because that means we make more money. If we have to leave the borders open and risk another 9/11, that's fine with us. If we have to get the bill through by demonizing as racists the very people who have staunchly defended us on issue after issue, it doesn't bother us a bit. Long story short, if anyone doesn't like what we want to do, tough, because we bought these senators with our campaign contributions, we own them, and it's our way or the highway." In other words, for a lot of these companies that knowingly hire illegals, this is all about raw, unbridled greed.

Any conservative that stay a member of the chamber of commerce is a piece of --it!

[OldArmy52]

Does anyone get the feeling that Chambers of Commerce play a role similar to pimps?

Also, watch big business to get behind the Dems in ‘08 because the Dems will promise to shift the burden of retiree and employee health care to the tax payers.

[over3Owithabrain]

Strange how GW Bush’s strong sense of wanting to spread democracy doesn’t count in cleaning up the corrupt Mexican government so these folks don’t have to leave home in the first place?

Excellent point - Bush and his country-club cronies don't mind the lousy situatuion in Mexico, since it allows for willing and cheap labor to come up here. Thanks W!

[KC_Conspirator]

But, what I do have a problem with are businesses that want to put an enormous burden on the rest of the country just to inflate their bottom lines.

These illegals have their health care and schooling taken care of the taxpayers too.

[KC_Conspirator]

That is clearly a double standard.

[org.whodat]

I believe the business community was more interested in the uniformity of enforcement and the ability to have a guest worker program that they could rely on, but was willing to give a little on the eventual citizenship thing as part of the compromise.

Sure that's why you have law firms out giving lessons on how to avoid hiring Americans. Many American business wants slave labor and plenty of it. I want to see them in jail and face asset forfeiture their crimes are no difference than the druggie down on the corner and they cost society more.

[Paperdoll]

Has anyone noticed the shrinking middle class lately? That class that so many aspire to does not need to go on a forced diet! Where will our entrepreneurs come from in future if there is no longer incentive to rise above their station?

Evil forces are working through the education system to make cookie cutter citizens out of our children; our government’s attempts to erase our borders to bring us to a third world status; and now through the workplace to replace good paying jobs for Americans with pittances for illegal invaders by invitation!

We have a huge job ahead of us, people, in cleaning up this deliberately caused mess. We need unity, prayer, determination, dedication, prayer, objectivity, and prayer, prayer, and prayer. Do not despair! We can do it!

[goldfinch]

She begrudgingly admitted that she started them at $7 an hour. Why would anyone work out in the heat of summer for $7 an hour when they could go to any fast-food chain, restaurant or a retail store and make that much working in the A/C?

As my wife said, she won’t meet the market demands for her labor costs and wants the government to legislate her a way to keep paying lower wages than the market demands.

It is true that this woman wants us to subsidize her cheap labor. In her defense...If she pays her workers more, she will be undercut when bidding for jobs by other landscape companies paying their illegal workers less. And she will eventually go out of business.

One of the worst thing about the government's failure to crack down on the employers of illegals is that is forces other employers to use illegal labor to stay competitive.

[Regulator]

One of the worst thing about the government's failure to crack down on the employers of illegals is that is forces other employers to use illegal labor to stay competitive

That's what happens when the Umpires don't enforce the rules of the game.

[L98Fiero]

“One of the worst thing about the government’s failure to crack down on the employers of illegals is that is forces other employers to use illegal labor to stay competitive.”

You make a very good point.

[Biblebelter]

Also, watch big business to get behind the Dems in ‘08 because the Dems will promise to shift the burden of retiree and employee health care to the tax payers.

Big business has always hedged its bets and given heavily to the the Democrats. During the last Democrat Convention, resident NYT witch Maureen Dowd was whining publicly on Hardball that she was at the hotel where delegates were interacting with lobbyists and there were so many from big business that she was having flashbacks to the Republican Convention.

[goldfinch]

Strange how GW Bush’s strong sense of wanting to spread democracy doesn’t count in cleaning up the corrupt Mexican government so these folks don’t have to leave home in the first place?

The Mexican government was controlled by one party for something like 75 years. It was proof of the old adage that power corrupts. Fox was the first President elected that was NOT from the old corrupt party...and the current President is the second. They have enacted some reforms. And they may be the best we can hope for in Mexico for a while. Remember the last election was very close and the loser, a Socialist the Chavez mode, staged a months-long sit-in claiming the election results were invalid.

Although no one will say it out loud, I think the open border policy for Mexico is an attempt to keep that country from falling into the Communist fold. Sometimes, I am not sure it is worth it. On one hand, if they became a Communist country, we would probably get border security. OTOH, how many refugees would we have to take in for humanitarian reasons???

[iopscusa]

Sounds like you have a case of the Linda Chavez sour grapes. How much friendlier to the citizenship part can it get than this bogus Comp Immigration bill....it was purely evil in it’s intent!
This issue is best deferred, passing this Comp Immigration bill is giving into all manner of lawlessness, crooked businesses and crooked politicos as well as weak willed do gooders. We will see what will happen, but I see the beginnings of an awakening by the middle class and all citizen voters! 2008 will be interesting.

[AmusedBystander]

the beginnings of an awakening by the middle class and all citizen voters

Support of 64 out of 100 senators shows no evidence of anything "grassroots" to me except that it will come back and it will be more liberal than uncle Ronnie's was.

[Ohioan]

The arrogant stupidity of the Chamber of Commerce actually clouds a number of side issues. Generally, I think the Chamber speaks through its own hired bureaucracy. The actual slants taken do not reflect the actual builders of business so much as a managerial class, itself more and more a bureaucracy, which feels itself aloof from the shareholders, rather than see itself, correctly, as their employees. The managers of member companies, then hire PR personnel to man the Chamber.

Certainly, none of that excuses, in the slightest, an organization which shows no interest in the continuity of American society as we have known it. The utter lack of identification with the mainstream of Americans is as nauseating as it is a short sighted betrayal of the long-term interests of the very companies funding the Chamber.

We need to push on, on many fronts. Not the least of these is to take the wake up call to educated Americans, wherever we find those who will listen, including among those very managers, who hire the Chamber for whatever purpose they have in mind. The best strategy is to broaden the numbers of those who are willing to consider all aspects of the problem, over the next few months, and then with enhanced numbers, to support Americans who do not apologize for wanting to keep America as it was passed on to us, by the brave, good men, who came before us. We need a new breed of political spokesmen; a new breed, who understand what the original breed--the founding fathers--understood, when they gave us our unique institutions and cultural norms.

For a discussion of issues relevant to Immigration, Immigration & The American Future.

William Flax

[S.O.L.]

I don’t get business’ view of the benefits of amnesty. If the illegals become legal, won’t that increase the cost of employing them as businesses will then need to pay minimum wage, provide benefits, etc. so the supply of cheap labor will dry up.

[PhiKapMom]

Can we also demand that Mel Martinez resign as head of RNC? I don’t feel comfortable having him in charge going into the 2008 elections because anti-illegal folks will be screwed by RNC is my guess.

[Mamzelle]

re: Can we also demand that Mel Martinez resign as head of RNC?)))

We could call our state and nat'l RNC offices and demand an anti-amnesty leadership.

It'll be important. For example--a contender to Lindsey Grahmnesty's Senate seat would be facing the RNC's chosen incumbent. GW may not reward the loyalty of his supporters most of the time, but you can expect he'll try to protect his Amnesty Hack in Chief--Graham...if only to spite conservatives in SC.

[AuntB]

Strange how GW Bush’s strong sense of wanting to spread democracy doesn’t count in cleaning up the corrupt Mexican government so these folks don’t have to leave home in the first place?

Yes, I find that more than curious and disappointing.