Posted on 06/28/2007 4:08:43 PM PDT by wagglebee
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A new poll shows that an overwhelming majority of Republican voters are still strongly pro-life on the issue of abortion and see it as a reason for being a member of the party. The poll also found a sizable number of Republicans who say they would not likely vote for a pro-abortion Republican candidate.
The Republican-leaning Fabrizio-Mclaughlin polling firm surveyed 2000 self-identified GOP voters nationwide from May 28 to June 3.
The poll found that GOP voters are becoming more conservative with those using that label to identify themselves moving up to 71 percent form 55 percent. Moderates dropped 10 percent to 21 percent of all GOPers and liberal Republicans make up only four percent of the party.
When it comes to their views directly on the issue, the survey found 28 percent of Republicans say abortion should be illegal under any circumstances. Only 16 percent of GOP voters say abortion should always be legal.
Another 52 percent of Republican voters say abortion should only be allowed in "certain circumstances," although the poll didn't say what situations are included in the vague question.
Typically a sizable portion of those in the middle category favor keeping abortions legal in cases of rape or incest or to save the life of the mother -- which constitute less than two percent of all abortions, according to the pro-abortion Alan Guttmacher Institute.
As a result, about 80 percent of Republican voters want all abortions to be illegal or abortions to be legal in a rare handful of cases.
Another question in the poll asked the GOP voters to identify themselves as "pro-life" or "pro-choice," and 61 percent of Republicans say they are pro-life while just 34 percent said they're not.
The poll also found that a large block of 35 percent of Republicans would be unlikely to vote for a presidential candidate who agreed with them on other issues but disagreed with them on abortion.
The result is very significant for former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, who is the top pro-abortion candidate seeking the GOP nod.
The survey shows that more than one-third of Republican voters won't consider him for president, which severely limits his ability to capture the nomination. Should he win the nod for the general election, the poll makes it appear he could have difficulty winning because he would lose such a substantial part of the Republican base.
When looking at why members of the party are Republicans, the abortion issue plays a strong role.
Some 7 percent of Republicans say they are members of the GOP specifically because of its pro-life stance on abortion.
But another 26 percent cite the party's conservative views, 22 percent say they have similar beliefs as the party, 13 percent cite moral or religious issues, and 19 percent said they were raised Republican or favor candidates of the party.
While not directly related to abortion, pro-life views play a role in each of the categories.
When asked what issue best defines the Republican Party, abortion came in third with 8 percent saying it primarily separates the GOP from the Democratic Party. Another 11 percent cited family values or moral issues, which can include abortion.
If you don’t want Hillary to win, do NOT vote for Rudy in the primaries. We values voters will NOT vote for partial-birth infanticide Rudy, and there are megamillions of us.
And Rudy will NOT be good at fighting the WOT. That is a false PERCEPTION. Rudy is pro-ILLEGAL immigration.
Border security = National security!
See you at the primaries, sir/ma’am, and I hope you vote for a pro-life, conservative.
“Detractors consistently hope to lump Pro-life into a list with other issues. We find ourselves digging that out of the list and shouting, it is not one of a list, it is CORE!
I beware of any who relegate and devalue this Core value to a list.”
The way Mark Levin puts it, conservatism is a way of life, and that includes the social conservatives issues, as well as the fiscal conservative issues, etc.
Rudy is against the 2nd amendment, is pro-abortion, including pba, pro-illegal immigration, pro-special rights for gays, etc. - in short, he is a LIBERAL. He really belongs in the Dem Party, and is just using Republicans.
Either give me a reason a conservative should support a New York liberal or go away.
The majority of posters on FR who label themselves as "conservative" are indeed so by self-definition but they are also single (or a few social) issue, litmus test Republicans.
If you have three or four issues that define your position--abortion, guns,homosexual marriage and religious belief you have limited your repertoire to non-economic and non-constitutional areas of discourse.
As far as questions, it is important to remember Fritz Perls's famous dictum, "a question is the hook of a demand..." This is the weakest form of argumentation, but can be easily cleared up by asking the questioner to turn the question into a statement. In this instance the underlying purpose of the question will become immediately apparent. The above reason is why psychotherapists, and especially psychologists and psychiatrists, often either don't answer questions, return with a question or otherwise not cooperate with the typical gamey question.
A good example of questions is the husband that does not come home a 9:00 p.m. as promised, but rather returns after 3:00a.m. The wife may ask, "Where were you?" But she better served by changing her question into a statement such as, "...I was worried you were in an accident last night...I was worried about your being with some other woman..." or whatever is bothering her. In this fashion she will get a response, but it will not be based on defensiveness or being under the gun of an implied criticism.
Finally, if you don't like my posts, scroll by. I plan to do so with yours.
ping to 45
See post #64. You are defining “conservative” as a noun and by the assumption that this definition requires the litmus tests you have decided upon.
THE ESSENTIAL QUESTION IS---WHO CAN BEAT HILLARY?
Whether Kirk advanced the idea or not, there is no real, point to having a definition of conservative that allows a guy to describe himself as such when he is one of the nation's foremost opponents of 2nd Amendment and a fierce proponent of child murder. It's like having a definition of "Christian" that includes the Dalai Lama and Carl Sagan, just because they're nice guys like some Christians are. And certainly, if they called themselves Christians without changing their beliefs, it would no make them Christians, even if they were "using the word as an adjective." It's like saying one can call himself "strong" and it's true for them as long as they think it's true...even if they can't bench press 50 pounds and get winded walking across the living room.
There's no amount of doublespeak you can post here that will make Hizzoner the Sow's Ear into Hizzoner the Silk Purse.
One has to ask...why does anyone think running a gungrabbing pro-abortion extremist from New York against a gungrabbing pro-abortion extremist from New York is a good idea, much less our only hope?
“I’m not thrilled about Rudy-—he won’t sign the no-new-taxes pledge, his phone call during the NRA speech was a rude and stupid, his tolerance of gay marriage is intolerable, his stem cell stance is predictably wrong, and adding abortion to the list is literally overkill. However....
THE ESSENTIAL QUESTION IS-—WHO CAN BEAT HILLARY?”
Any of them can beat Hillary, except for Rudy (because mega millions of values voters and other strong conservatives will vote 3rd party, or stay home) or Ron Paul (because he is way out there on some of the issues).
I repeat - ANYBODY BUT RUDY or RON PAUL can beat Hillary. She is NOT LIKED!!!!
Let’s not panic folks!
Go to the primaries and elect a CONSERVATIVE.
We can only pray that the people who see things in absolute terms of right and wrong, black and white, finally see through the schism that is being created to minimize her negatives and send that absolutely evil team back into the White House. They are truly vile.
She has to get the men to vote for her, too.
And I’m one woman who won’t vote for her, nor will a friend of mine who happens to be a Black woman.
It’s really too early to take the polls seriously, anyway.
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