Posted on 06/28/2007 4:08:43 PM PDT by wagglebee
Sorry, I meant to ping you to this as well.
It is more than just the abortion issue itself. It’s also the lack of character of the person who accepts the murder of children. I cannot vote for someone that barbaric.
Exactly! ANYONE who is not even troubled by the FACT that over 3500 infants are slaughtered EVERY DAY in the United States lacks the moral authority to be elected to anything.
Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.
The really sad part is, there is a substantial percentage of RINOs that would gladly accept a 'Beast presidency if it meant breaking the stranglehold the social conservatives have over the party and its nomination.
All they have to do is nominate someone who holds the Republican coalition together (coughFRedcoughThompsoncough), and the GOP is a winner against a candidate that 47% of the country will not vote for under any circumstances. Yet, they are completely hellbent on splitting the party in two, then blaming socons - when they knew what would happen all along.
What say you, shrinkermd? Let's say by some miracle, Duncan Hunter gets the GOP nomination and faces the 'Beast in the general - who do you vote for?
If you say the Beast or third party, you have proven my point.
If you say Hunter, then why not work for the most electable conservative in the primary instead of trying to stuff a party-wrecking RINO liberal down our throats?
That said, Rudy is an idiot if he thinks he can (or should) win the nomination while giving the finger to one of the party's core constituencies. He wouldn't expectto win the nomination if he went to all his campaign stops wearing an "Eat the Rich" T-shirt, so why's he expect to shaft us and gwet away with it?
When people tell me it’s just one issue, I tell them it’s approximately 46 million issues, because that’s how many preborn babies were murdered since Roe.
I'll second that question, and add this:
The Rudy boosters can talk all they want about single issue this and single issue that, but it's not about a single issue, it's about several issues that Giuliani is not just on the wrong side of, but ardently so. The guy is only a conse3rvative by the measure of NYC politics, and in case you haven't noticed, very little of this country is NYC...and Hillary's at least as popular in NYC as she is.
Rudy will not hold currently-red battleground states. He will not take blue states away from Hillary. To believe he will is a fantasy that depends on believing that "single-issue" libs will vote GOP, or believing that Hillary will be tanked solely by her negatives, which means we don't need Rudy to be the nominee to get it done.
You have asked a hypothetical that will not happen. Duncan Hunter is so far down in the polls it would require divine intervention for him to prevail in any primary state.
Unfortunately, we are just short of 50 MILLION abortions since 1973.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html
And I don’t think these figures don’t take into account the number of abortion deaths from RU-486.
You want to hear the biggest hypothetical in the whole race? That would be Rooty Toot getting the nomination and winning.
Rooty Toot was two scared to run against Hitlery the two times he had a chance. And you want to talk about SINGLE ISSUE candidates, how about, “I was mayor on 9/11” which sounds an awful lot like “I was in Vietnam.”
NO major political party has EVER nominated a presidential candidate who they didn’t believe could even carry his own state. Why should we do it now?
It’s worse than I thought - approximately 50 million “issues” BABIES - reasons to vote pro-LIFE!
Guess what, Rooty Toot won’t be the nominee.
Nice dodge. I think you just told us you're supporting Giuliani because he's a lib. Go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong, but don't expect me too accept dodges as if they're straight talk.
“its approximately 46 million issues”
Excellent points, Sun.
This country seems to be more upset about Vick’s cruelty to dogs than the heinous murder of thousands of babies on a daily basis.
Our beloved country is badly broken.
“This country seems to be more upset about Vicks cruelty to dogs than the heinous murder of thousands of babies on a daily basis.
Our beloved country is badly broken.”
Sadly, you are correct. I pray every day for an end to abortion.
Kirk, for the most part, used "conservative" as an adjective rather than a noun. Something again, you would not be familiar with.
Kirk also stated if believed your positions were conservative then you were one.
Only the single issue, litmus test types would disagree with his broad definition.
Finally, I do not worry about hypotheticals that don't happen. Again, I don't worry about the sun rising tomorrow or Hunter gaining the nomination because both events are so rare as to be impossible.
Abort Guiliani. He will understand what it means to be unwanted.
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