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One of my favorite essays on the topic is by the redoubtable Marianne M. Jennings: Cranky Nitpickers make writing a [sic] experience, the first three paragraphs of which follow:

AS THE AUTHOR of textbooks, I have posted bail quite a few times for the language police who inflict their sandbox rules upon our culture and mediocrity upon our literature. In my neophyte days, I employed the masculine pronoun in my texts, using only "he" and ˜him," in the anthropomorphic sense. People began jumping from windows, so I embraced pluralism. Every example had its participants and pronouns doubled. I used "theys,""thems," and even "yuns," whenever western Pennsylvania coal-mining roots overpowered the grammar hammer.

When my dedication to pluralism resulted in two CEOs running one company, I returned to singularism and mixed my "he's and "she's" together.

Users began counting the number of "he's" and "she's," checking for equal pronoun distribution. An editor vetoed my suggested dedication for the first gender equity edition: "AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY/AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TEXT. ALL PRONOUNS WELCOME." . . .

1 posted on 06/24/2007 2:29:34 PM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

English cannot be modified all so easily, but let’s see how these modifiers do with Arabic. That will be entertaining.


2 posted on 06/24/2007 2:32:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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Why, why, why can’t liberals just leave speech alone? The language is probably their most-favored tool...they think if they can control the language, they can ultimately control the world.

“Hu”, eh? I have seen “hir” in lieu of him or her, but only by moonbats over the internet. Same for “womyn”, another affectation.


3 posted on 06/24/2007 2:34:15 PM PDT by Baladas
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Well, I’m in favor of using the plural. The Romance languages have gender neutral pronouns, it seems the only place they survive in English is in the plural. Besides, I don’t think it is so bad.

Hey no flaming if any of youse disagree with me!


4 posted on 06/24/2007 2:34:41 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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Things were much easier (and more gramatically correct) back in the old days, when “he” was the universal pronoun, representing man, woman, and, for all I know, the rest of the animal kingdom. “Anyone,” “everyone,” “everybody” and “anybody” are all singular, so it’s grating to hear someone say: “If anyone is interested, THEY should call.” Or “Every parent should bring THEIR child to school.” Our society is getting dumb and dumber in the name of political correctness. I’m a woman, but I still use “he” as the universal pronoun.


5 posted on 06/24/2007 2:35:06 PM PDT by hsalaw
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How about this, for “he, she, or it”: “h’rshit”, drop that a few times in conversation with one of these kooks and see what happens.


7 posted on 06/24/2007 2:36:43 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Oh, brother, not this **** again...

DeLuna says "hu" has been well-received within the transgender community.

Well, then, that's good enough for me. I think we should all embrace it.

8 posted on 06/24/2007 2:38:04 PM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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"When one opens one's book, one will read from it." That's kind of awkward.

"When hu opens hu's book, hu will read from it." That's kind of stupid.

9 posted on 06/24/2007 2:39:15 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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Didn’t Don Imus get in a lot of trouble for using a gender-neutral pronoun? Didn’t he refer to some Palasaides Princesses as “nappy-headed hus”?


11 posted on 06/24/2007 2:40:28 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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"I'm interested in people having fun with language," she said. "The idea is just to communicate."

If the idea were simply to communicate, we would not be having this discussion. The whole point of "gender-neutrality" is to intimidate and indoctrinate, not to communicate.

12 posted on 06/24/2007 2:41:49 PM PDT by Logophile
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But in Hebrew, “hu” is “he” and “he” is “she” and, oh fuggetaboutit.


16 posted on 06/24/2007 2:52:37 PM PDT by Remole
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“He” as representative of both genders has been perfectly acceptable for a long time. I see no reason to change.


20 posted on 06/24/2007 2:59:30 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Sort of better than Gore or Kerry, but that's about it.........)
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“If anyone asks, tell them what they need to know.”

What is wrong with, “If anyone asks, answer the question?”


21 posted on 06/24/2007 3:00:37 PM PDT by GOPologist (By the time you decide to look for greener pastures, you're too old to climb the fence.)
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This is what happens when people reject G-d's laws. They start out claiming to be libertarian anarchists who are against G-d because He has "too many rules," but in the end it always turns out that they don't think He has enough rules.

For every sexual sin the atheists/liberals want to decriminalize, there is something they want to outlaw in the name of "reason" and "justice."

22 posted on 06/24/2007 3:00:50 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Mah tovu 'ohaleykha, Ya`aqov, mishkenoteykha, Yisra'el!")
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Most people are still unclear about the rules for it’s and its, many on this forum sad to say.

As for the he/she connundrum -—lots of ways to avoid that problem.


26 posted on 06/24/2007 3:04:53 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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“DeLuna says “hu” has been well-received within the transgender community”

And when everyone knows this it should put an end to this nonsense. For most purposes language is better the more precise it is. This person wants sacrifice precision on the altar of political correctness. If you want change, don’t worry. Pretty soon we’ll be using El, La, and Usted.


27 posted on 06/24/2007 3:05:46 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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I once worked for a legislative reform commission. When we were presenting our proposals, I used the term "he" to refer to an indefinite person. The Chairwoman of the Legislature jumped down my throat for using that "sexist language."

I really wanted to say, "Ma'am, I'm sorry the English language offends you, but I see no reason to change a thousand years of the King's English to placate your sensibilities." Because we were trying to sell our proposal, I instead said "I'm sorry. I'll be more clear. 'He or she'."

Man, that gagged me.

28 posted on 06/24/2007 3:06:20 PM PDT by jude24
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Apparently these jerks never took Latin, French, or German classes either.


29 posted on 06/24/2007 3:07:16 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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The English language already has a gender-neutral single object and subject pronoun (it) and a corresponding possessive pronoun (its). We typically use this pronoun for persons who disclaim identity with male and female genders, but declare theirs as “other/please specify.” We also use “it” to refer to nonliving things, entities without gender, asexually reproducing organisms, hermaphrodites, and animals of unknown or irrelevant gender.


31 posted on 06/24/2007 3:08:51 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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But to modern ears, using "he" across the board sounds more jarring than "they."

BS. Only to a certain kind of hyper-sensitive modern ears.

I've seen a lot of textbooks that use "she" instead. I fail to see how that's an improvement.

32 posted on 06/24/2007 3:09:11 PM PDT by irv
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Sounds like something from Dr. Seuss.


33 posted on 06/24/2007 3:09:47 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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