Posted on 06/24/2007 5:14:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, June 24th, 2007
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Trent Lott, R-Miss., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Cal Ripken Jr., former Baltimore Orioles shortstop.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan; Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Former New York Mayor Ed Koch; political consultant Ed Rollins; actor Sam Waterston.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.; actor David Hyde Pierce.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet; Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, and Ron Wyden, D-Ore.; Dennis Ross, former U.S. Mideast envoy; Egyptian Ambassador Nabil Fahmy; Israeli Ambassador Sallai Meridor.
Point taken!
When you begin to police your own side for namecalling perhaps you will have a point? The Marxist conservative moniker is perfect since these conservatives want a Living Wage and gummit Central Planning for businesses and vilify businsses as slave owners. What would you call it since that is what it is?
There are no two camps on this board, only one and I and a very few others disagree. Your guest worker program will be called “Shamnesty” and you will be forced out of the group so be very careful with that.
I have been very careful not to namecall save one bombthrower, so perhaps you can police the other side with equal vigor.
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Bloomberg may pick up some Rudy backers, if Rudy looses the nomination.
I think Bloomberg is Hillary's, plan A for a TP candidate.
Question for you. HOW does the President’s “Bully Pulpit” work
That right. He has to rely on the “Journalists” to report his message to the people. He has to rely on THEIR medium.
My how sad, yet another 100%er slogan just got shattered on the rocks of cold hard political reality.
Ok, please stop with the personal attacks. You can make your point without them Chuck (and very well, too).
I don’t think thats the “bomb thrower” bray had in mind.
Pray for bray and his coyotes!
Fair enough.
I will. Everyone stop the personal attacks!
Doesn't matter. No one should be calling another FReeper (re)Tard.
I think it would be helpful if you would state more precisely just what you mean by “the free market.” There are government regulations concerning the sale of food contaminated with harmful bacteria, the sale of components of WMD’s to terrorist states (as defined by the government), the sale of toys that burst into fire, maintaining fraudulent accounting records, etc.
Are you opposed to all of these things, or just the laws pertaining to labor?
Good point Rodguy. Here’s another. The total number of farm laborers in the USA is 1.2 million. 2/3 of them are Legal immigrants/citizens. We don’t need 12 million illegals to do the farm work of 400,000 people.
And as you stated, all these jobs got done in the 80s and 90s without 12 million illegals.
Its not about “jobs that Americans won’t do”; its about greed and cheap labor. BTW, slaveholders in 1860 were saying the same song. They asked, “How would the cotton get picked or the sugarcane cut without Negro Slavery?”
How many illegal aliens are making below minimum wage?
Who is going to identify the good and bad illegal aliens?
I believe you are not serious with your nitpicking. I think you know exactly what the Free Market is and exactly what I mean by that term.
Labor is only one major cost in the production of goods and yes it deserves a free market approach. In the end we are all costs in the production of what we produce. Pretty simple really.
The Free Market just says to keep costs under sales revenue and make a profit. The gummit only adds costs and makes markets less efficient.
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If you have documentation you can find out who has criminal records and track them from now forward. The forgeproof ID is a good idea.
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Many youngsters go through the process of interviews etc but have no intention of taking a job many ruin the interview or do not accept the job giving phony reasons.
In Britain you have to prove you are looking for a job to get benefit - I would assume it is the same in the US.
Many youngsters go into the job centre daily have to sign on once a week at a certain time and show evidence of trying for work and then spend the rest of the day hanging out with their mates.
I would suspect of the percentage you quote there is a far number that are similar to this.
Unfortunately the few give the rest a bad name but it still does not alter the fact that often to get youngsters to work from 16 - 20 it is a struggle for parents.
How many “guest workers” have overstayed their welcome in the last twenty years?
Who is “you” who will find those illegal aliens? Are you suggesting that we should not track illegal aliens who have no criminal records? Should we make ‘sanctuary cities” illegal?
They can give speech after speech but if only the bits are shown that the media want to show that fit their agenda then it has no effect if people are not willing to actually make an effort to read the entire speech or actually know where it would be found, how many of the average Americans are aware of what is published on the White House website. Sometimes I wonder how many on this board are in fact aware what published on that website.
In a way Congress has the advantage here as like the British Parliament the debates are shown in full.
Many people in Britain would be aware that transcript of parliament are published (Hansard) but would they be aware or know where to go to see the PM’s speech at a local college or factory. I am sure the same applies in the US as well.
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