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Man who fed puppy to boa gets 90 days in jail
MSNBC ^ | June 14, 2007 | AP

Posted on 06/16/2007 8:16:41 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Man who fed puppy to boa gets 90 days

Arizona man could have been sentenced to up to a year on cruelty charge

The Associated Press

Updated: 3:38 p.m. PT June 14, 2007

PHOENIX - A man who coated a 3-week-old puppy in cooking oil and then fed it to his pet boa constrictor was sentenced Thursday to 90 days in jail and two years probation, prosecutors said.

Joseph Beadle, 40, pleaded guilty to an animal cruelty charge in March. He has served 51 days of his jail sentence while the case was pending.

Beadle, of Glendale, faced up to a year in jail on the charge.

Police reports said Beadle fed the mixed-breed puppy to the 8-foot-long snake last June as two 15-year-old boys watched. He poured the cooking oil on the dog so it would be easier for the snake to swallow.

Investigators seized his snake after finding it was the victim of neglect.

"The County Attorneys Office has made prosecuting animal-cruelty cases a high priority," Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas said in a statement. "Experience and empirical evidence have shown that people who commit cruelty to animals are more likely to commit crimes against people."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: animalcruelty; arizona; az; boa; crime; doggieping; k9; pets; punishment; puppy; snake
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To: Bogtrotter52
You (the owner) are the dominant one in the relationship and the animal is merely sucking up to you so that you will feed and/or not kill it outright.

When you try to explain everything by "evolved" you end up with a mell of a hess. Your wife only loves you because she evolved to want sex. Your mother only loves you because she evolved to pass on her genes. Etc.

Anyhow, this is not true of my cats. Their food and water is replenished whether they show up and cuddle or not. But they do.

81 posted on 06/17/2007 2:34:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I strongly recommend you take a class or read a book to learn the proper use of quotation marks. You sure did not see the word used in my post. And the comments about wife and mother do not even make sense. They are humans after all. Big differance there. My own cat, Abby (Abegon the Despoiler) will come if a merely pick up and shake the container of dry food, even if his food dish is full. Sort of Pavlovian that way. Hey, I like him, but he is a pet. If he comes down with something I would certainly not put him on chemo, life support, or shell out bread for a transplant. For a family member, yes, for a pet, no way. But as long as he continues to kill pidgeons and moles, he is earning his keep.


82 posted on 06/17/2007 3:03:52 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Man who fed puppy to boa..." Uggghhhh... That is just so wicked.

Yes it is.

And I am amazed at the other comments on this thread that viewed it with indifference or were upset but stated that the man should not do jail time.

No one should be allowed to own an animal that feeds on other animals.

And showing the other cultures that feed on dogs and cats only points out the stark contrast between our Christian Western culture and their pagan, decadent one.

83 posted on 06/17/2007 4:55:50 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No one should be allowed to own an animal that feeds on other animals.

That would exlude kittens and puppies as pets. They eat meat. Sure it arrives in the house in a can, but it was alive once.

84 posted on 06/17/2007 5:24:32 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Man who fed puppy to boa gets 90 days in jail

Yeah, but it wouldn't have been cruel to feed it a rat? Maybe he should have made it a tofuppy.
85 posted on 06/17/2007 5:26:26 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: DogByte6RER

But if he partially aborted a 9 month old fetus, and sucked its brains out to finish the process he would be a hero.


86 posted on 06/17/2007 6:36:25 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: doc1019

“Should feed him to boa.”

Sounds good to me.


87 posted on 06/17/2007 6:55:39 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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True...

Even more reason to keep holding dogs in high regard.

If the cultists within Islam detest dogs, then that is all the more reason for Western Civilization to treat dogs as “man’s best friend.”

A great example of this is the work that Pups for Peace does. P4P train dogs to detect explosives and then deploy the dogs to Israel (and now also in California) to perform counter-terrorism operations.

Check out P4P at: http://www.pupsforpeace.org/

While I can understand many of the points being made on this posting about dogs being private property the fact remains that a “cute little bunny” or a hamster or rats or mice do not have the same relationaship to man as does the dog.

Due to man’s domestication of dogs, dogs have a natural affinity for people. IHO, this should place dogs at a higher level of worthiness than some rodent or snake.

Dogs are regularly used to rescue and save human lives during earthquakes, anti-terror searches, police and fire, etc.


89 posted on 06/17/2007 8:27:29 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: MarkL

It’s just too bad that this creep didn’t donate the pup to a group like Pups for Peace.

See: http://www.pupsforpeace.org/

Instead of being turned into snake dung, this puppy could have been trained to save lives by sniffing out explosives.


90 posted on 06/17/2007 8:36:11 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: familyop
I am going out on a limb here and say that I think people who own snakes for pets are sick individuals. And the reason they own them is because they enjoy watching their pets swallow other live creatures whole.

I was at Petco one day watching the mice frolic in their case. There was a woman standing next to me and I said “aren’t they cute”. She agreed and then I said “can you understand how people can buy them to feed their snakes?” There was a muffled response from her and later I saw her getting a mouse while trying to hide it from me. Sick b*tch!

91 posted on 06/17/2007 8:37:45 AM PDT by Ditter
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92 posted on 06/17/2007 8:45:03 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: Pinkbell
There are some animals that we as a society have deemed worthy of protection. It seems vets and pet stores generally recommend feeding rodents to snakes

Thank you Dogs and puppies are above rats and chickens,dogs were bread to be the companion of man and have a special relation ship with him, ( at least in civilized countries). SOB should be horsewhipped to death and the dammed snake made into luggage

93 posted on 06/17/2007 9:09:14 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: familyop

Visited Midwest Reptile in Ft. Wayne years ago. In one room the old lady had a 15-foot boa. She was feeding him rabbits and chickens.


94 posted on 06/17/2007 9:36:35 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: JMack
“Taking the little signs people give off and forming judgments on them can be useful, that was my only point.”

Of course. And we all make judgments about everyone we meet based upon their behavioral quirks as viewed from our own perspective. It is when these premonitional judgments take shape in our legal code that my alarms go off. That’s the point I’m trying to make. Once codified the laws become tools selectively used for persecution of individuals or groups not currently in sink with those holding power. I detest such laws.

95 posted on 06/17/2007 9:56:47 AM PDT by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: Ditter
I am going out on a limb here and say that I think people who own snakes for pets are sick individuals. And the reason they own them is because they enjoy watching their pets swallow other live creatures whole.

I suppose that you could say the same thing about people who have "outdoor cats."

After all, cats who spend time outdoors do what cats do... They kill other animals. Because they're predators. We don't always think of them like that, but that's a simple fact of life.

While I have no interest in having a snake as a "pet," I do find them to be fascinating creatures, and when I was young, I actually thought of becoming a herpatologist. I've also got a number of friends who do have snakes for pets, and they're not sick individuals. And they don't particularly enjoy watching their snakes eat, any more than a cat owner enjoys watching their cat eat a bird or mouse. But they do realize that they need to feed them, and many snakes will not eat dead animals, so the often do have to be fed live prey.

Mark

96 posted on 06/17/2007 11:40:51 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Charlespg

Some of the replies in this thread just surprised me. How anyone could defend feeding man’s best friend (who was not intended to be fed to snakes like rodents) to a snake, baffles me. Man’s best friend is a companion, leads the blind, sniffs out drugs and explosives, rescues people, detects seizures, and visits the sick and elderly. This guy deserved 90 days in jail and more.


97 posted on 06/17/2007 12:08:59 PM PDT by Pinkbell (I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order. - Mike Pence)
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To: Pinkbell
You make some valid points, but we are still talking about animals. I've seen people go to jail longer for animal cruelty than others go to jail for hurting people. Around here that usually happens when people have a sickly horse they can't afford to take to the vet. The judge that usually handles these cases around here just loves horses. I'm a public defender and I'm in court all the time and I've seen this happen several times. To me that's just crazy. Fine these people, take their animals, forbid them from keeping animals, but save the jail space for people who are a threat to humans.

I'm not sure that I agree completely with the notion that some animals are more worthy of protection that others. I understand that people feel that way, but I think that's kind of silly. In India cows are sacred and they roam the streets. In some countries dogs are food, and there are even places where rats are sacred. And ferrets, well I don't think there is any consensus in this country that they are more deserving of protection than other animals. I think it's more of akin to something like beauty being in the eye of the beholder.

I do not believe in being unnecessarily cruel to animals. I think that is wrong. I have a dog that I love, and we have two cats that I could do without, but I'd certainly never be cruel to them. There is a difference though to me in being cruel for the sake of being cruel, and acts that may seem cruel but are done for some legitimate purpose. Personally, I would think that feeding a small critter to a pet snake would be a legitimate purpose, regardless of what type of animal it is. Snakes eat live animals. That's what you feed them. Bunnies, puppies, ferrets, they all seem like fair game to me.

And I think you are a little bit reality challenged in your notions of how nice we are to the animals you eat. Do you ever eat veal? Do you know that comes from baby calves that are confined to the extent that they can never have room to even turn around? And as for chickens and it being "important to keep them healthy and in good living conditions until their deaths," you're cracking me up with that. I'm from an area where the poultry business is king and if you think chickens are raised in healthy and good living conditions you are definitely reality challenged. Broiler chickens live a horrible six weeks of life before being hung by their ankles and having their throats slit and then quickly being dunked into a vat of scalding water to remove the feathers, often when they are still alive and conscious. I started to give you a chronicle of the life of the average broiler chicken and egg laying hen, but it was going on too long so I deleted it. Suffice it to say that plenty of awful things happen to these animals. If you have a big heart and a great love for all animals, you'd probably cry your eyes out if you knew what these poor widdle chickies have to endure. I'll spare you that.
98 posted on 06/17/2007 3:01:37 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: fortheDeclaration

“No one should be allowed to own an animal that feeds on other animals.”

Then cats should be illegal. My daughter’s cat is always killing something and leaving its remain on our porch. I know if that wild animal was big enough she’d eat me too, but only after toying with me for a long time while I was injured and near death, like she does with all the birds and mice and chipmunks and whatever else she find to kill.


99 posted on 06/17/2007 3:06:55 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

I realize that some people don’t go to jail as long for hurting people, but I think they should go to jail longer for hurting people. There are some people that deserve much longer in jail than they recieve. Anyway, I believe unnecessary cruelty towards animals is wrong, may it be the animals we eat, small animals, dogs/cats, and so on. There is a strong relationship between people who abuse animals eventually moving onto hurting people. If putting them in jail can lead to them no longer abusing animals and in turn prevent them from moving onto different sorts of victims, then I think it should be done.

I know different cultures deem different animals worthy of protection. Western Culture happens to deem dogs and cats worthy of protection, and the dog has been a great help via rescue, the blind, those with seizures, bringing comfort to the ill, and even sniffing out bombs and drugs. Vets and pet stores would never recommend feeding a dog or cat to a snake. They would recommend feeding an animal of the rodent variety to a snake. Sure, a snake will eat anything, but it doesn’t mean it should be given everything.

That’s horrible as far as the chickens. I have heard of farms that treat them very humanely until their death and feed them natural grains as opposed to steroids. I don’t eat veal because it is a baby cow, and the idea of eating a baby cow makes me sick.


100 posted on 06/17/2007 3:30:59 PM PDT by Pinkbell (I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order. - Mike Pence)
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