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jedward ^ | 6-16-2007 | jedward

Posted on 06/16/2007 3:08:21 PM PDT by jedward

Where's one of the best places to learn about the United States?  Let's take a visit to the US Department of State's website and see what we can find.  When you first get to http://www.state.gov you are presented with the wonderful colors of Red White and Blue.  It's very easy to immediately see that a great deal of effort has gone into this wonderful place of learning.  So, back to the goal at hand, let's find the United States.  From the homepage you see an option to click on "Regions" and listed under that heading is the "Western Hemisphere".  That looks like the place to go, so let's click there.  Now, at this point we are at the "Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs".  Now along the left hand side we see a link for "Countries and Other Areas", so naturally we click there expecting to find the United States.  We see many countries listed like Cuba, Venezuela, Columbia and even Mexico, but for some reason the United States is not listed.

Well, surely the webpage didn't load properly, so we refresh the page and scroll back down and it's still not there.  At this point it's easy to say, I've missed something, so let's go back to the Homepage.  Now, we click on "Countries" again from the Homepage and immediately see a "Counties A-Z" link.  That's it, let's click there and stop all this searching.  Ok, the A-Z list is showing now, we see Cuba, China, Venezuela, Iran, Syria and North Korea.  We get to the U's and we don't see the United States.  Maybe they called it America instead, so let's scroll up and look under the A's.  The United States isn't listed there either.  While wondering in confusion we see near the "A's" a link titled "Independent States of the World", not Countries, but States.  So we click there and finally find the United States listed under the "U" section, only to my surprise there's no link on any of the "States" listed, just a name and number.

Last but not least, let's just go back to the Homepage and type "United States" in the search box and see what shows up first.

US Department of State - Home Page

... temporarily enter and depart the United States by air ... identification and Department
of State official proof ... USA.gov, What's New | Frequent Questions | Contact ...
www.state.gov/ - 2007-06-16

Shown above is what we see.  It gives us a link back to the Homepage, so that wasn't exactly helpful.

Let's play one more time.  Let's start at the Homepage, Click on "Western Hemisphere".  Now stop!  Look at the second item on the left side, the one that says "U.S. and Organization of American States".  Apparently the OAS (Organization of American States) can be spelled out, but not the United States, at least on the United State's Department of State's website anyway.  So click on that link and look for the United States link next to the Organizations of American States.  Or look below, and here's what we see:

The U.S. and the Organization of American States

---  OAS Background Information
---  Hemispheric Security
---  Organization of American States' Website
---  OAS General Assembly
---  Releases

Don't worry if your having trouble finding the United States listed above, because its not there.

You have found what the Department of State recognizes as your Country.

http://www.state.gov

http://www.state.gov/countries/

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/ci/

http://www.state.gov/misc/list/index.htm

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rt/oas/


So you don't see the United States, let's see what information is presented.

The U.S. and the Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

The U.S. Mission to the Organization of American States (OAS) is headed by Acting U.S. Permanent Representative J. Robert Manzanares. The OAS is the premier multilateral forum in the Western Hemisphere. Its 35 members are countries from North, South, and Central America, the Caribbean, and Canada. The charter of the OAS states that its basic objectives are to:

As a member of the OAS, the United States is committed to strengthening and working with the organization. This reflects the U.S. Government's determination to make optimal use of multilateral diplomacy to resolve regional problems and to engage its neighbors on topics of hemispheric concern.

Inter-American Democratic Charter
Remarks on the Occasion of the Special Meeting of the Permanent Council to Commemorate the Fifth Anniversary of the Adoption of the Inter-American Democratic Charter

The particulars of social and economic development are addressed through the commitments our leaders make at the Summits, and carried out through the Summits of the Americas process. That includes commitments to concrete, measurable actions, such as those which empower our people through property rights, remittances, and small business loans. The IDB’s new initiative, "Building Opportunity for the Majority," addresses these critical needs for the 40% of the people in the hemisphere who live on $3 a day or less, at the base of the pyramid.


Question:  Is there an American Union?  Answer:  Yes, there is and always has been one as originally titled such back in 1890.  Today, it's still an American Union, only it goes by a different name (see the "Established" below).  That should end any questions regarding whether there is or isn't one.  If there isn't, then the Department of State might want to consider including the United States as a Country in the Western Hemisphere some day.

May 30, 2007

Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

Established: April 14, 1890, as the International Union of American Republics. Became the Pan American Union in 1910, then the Organization of American States in 1948 with the adoption of the OAS Charter in Bogotá, Colombia.

SPECIALIZED ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER ENTITIES
Much important inter-American business is conducted by separate entities, some of which are independent, some fully or partially funded by the OAS, and others consisting simply of periodic hemispheric meetings which receive support from the OAS Secretariat. Subjects covered include agriculture, labor, copyrights, private international law, highways, ports and harbors, railways, telecommunications, health and sanitation, statistics, travel, child welfare, women's issues, Indian affairs, and tourism. The conferences are attended by high-level officials and technical experts to further inter-American cooperation in these fields.

The Inter-American Children's Institute (IIN)  http://www.iin.oas.org

The Inter-American Commission of Women (CIM) http://www.oas.org/cim

The Inter-American Defense Board (IADB) http://www.iid.org

The IADB has as one of its principal organizations the Inter-American Defense College http://www.jid.org/en/college/

The Inter-American Development Bank (IDB)  http://www.iidb.org

The Inter-American Institute for Cooperation in Agriculture (IICA)  http://www.iica.int

The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) http://www.paho.org

The Pan American Institute of Geography and History (PAIGH)  http://www.igph.org

The Pan American Development Foundation (PADF)  http://www.padf.org

Question:  Is the 2007 Amnesty Bill a joke or a diversion of some kind?  Answer:  You should be able to answer that question by now...

Message to ALL Republicans & Democrats:  Unless you're ok with the dissolution of the United States and your Country not even getting a link on the Department of State's web-site, then stopping this Immigration/Amnesty bill should be your priority right now.  This is the first step in "We The People" meaning something again!

jedward


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KEYWORDS: 2007; amnesty; immigration; oas; statedept
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To: kabar
Pushing unconstitutional international agreements would be one example.

First, all but one country reaffirmed that representative democracy, as enshrined in the OAS Charter, is an indispensable condition for the peace, development, and stability of the region. As the first line of the Declaration of Mar del Plata demonstrates, we are committed to more than just democratic elections in this hemisphere. Democratically elected leaders must also govern democratically, according to the principles of the OAS Charter and the Inter-American Democratic Charter. The hemisphere's leaders committed explicitly to the full and effective application of the Inter-American Democratic Charter, which states that "the peoples of the Americas have a right to democracy and their governments have an obligation to promote and defend it."

--John Maisto, U.S. national coordinator for the Summit of the Americas, permanent representative to the OAS

**Our leaders must adhere to the OAS charter and the Inter-American Democratic Charter??? So says this State Dept. Representative. What about our Constitution and our Bill of Rights?
161 posted on 06/17/2007 12:57:47 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: jedward
Yup, saw that. I've listening (reading), Lou go off about illegal immigration for about a year now but that video is fairly new.

I'll bet he ain't sayin everything he knows either :)

Good stuff.

162 posted on 06/17/2007 1:00:32 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: jedward

Yup, they need to take a step back - they are standing on it.


163 posted on 06/17/2007 1:02:00 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

“I’ll bet he ain’t sayin everything he knows either :)”

That’s probably a safe bet!


164 posted on 06/17/2007 1:03:24 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Very good way to put it!


165 posted on 06/17/2007 1:04:02 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: SittinYonder

North American Union pingy


166 posted on 06/17/2007 1:06:20 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: hedgetrimmer; WorkerbeeCitizen; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“**Our leaders must adhere to the OAS charter and the Inter-American Democratic Charter??? So says this State Dept. Representative. What about our Constitution and our Bill of Rights?”

There, now that we’ve got that out on the table, anyone wishing to answer those questions, I’m all ears. We might want to get that cleared up before anyone thinks about signing Amnesty Legislation.


167 posted on 06/17/2007 1:08:48 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
To which bill of rights d you refer?

Ohhh, you mean the one our founding fathers created that congress, political correctness libs, aclu and the "progressives" have been negating and gutting?

Those bill of rights?

My question is, will they matter to the government when things get put into place?

Our two most cherished rights, the first and second have suffered tremendous blow.

/rant

We still have the bill of rights but they are being torn apart before our eyes.

168 posted on 06/17/2007 1:18:15 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: jedward

Just more NWO/NAU Krappola,,,


169 posted on 06/17/2007 1:25:51 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

“To which bill of rights d you refer?”

Exactly! And any arguments about anything I’ve sourced will have to be taken up with the DOS. They provided the information, though some don’t want to be troubled with reading it. The Flag and our Soverignty just isn’t really an issue as they see it. “Save the one’s you can...” is always a good thing to do.


170 posted on 06/17/2007 1:26:18 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: mhx
The United States is not listed because people in the United States do not request information from the State Department to travel to the United States.

Exactly. I'm glad to see this posted early in the thread....

171 posted on 06/17/2007 1:28:22 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Nappy is the new N-word.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Just focusing on what’s currently acknowledged as existing and moving right along, the NAU is indeed the OAS. A secret to many, an obvious and well known fact to others. It simply got a name change a half a century ago.


172 posted on 06/17/2007 1:30:50 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
See post 15, and hopefully you’ll learn something.

Yes, we should all learn something from your lame post based on your misunderstanding of the DOS.

173 posted on 06/17/2007 1:32:12 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Nappy is the new N-word.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

“Yes, we should all learn something from your lame post based on your misunderstanding of the DOS.”

Please help me understand them then.


174 posted on 06/17/2007 1:48:35 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Hey buddy, I dunno about no NWO, hadn’t looked into that much. I just know what I see going on in front of me.


175 posted on 06/17/2007 1:49:32 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen; jedward
WBC:
Take heart JW, some get it some don't and some don?t want to.

jed:
Yep. Not surprised at all.

Whew!

I can see that I'm going to need an Alex Jones/Jeff Rense/PrisonPlanet.com -class decoder ring to gain a comprehensive understanding on this DOS-website and amnesty linkage matter!

176 posted on 06/17/2007 1:49:43 PM PDT by _Jim (Highly recommended book on the Kennedy assassination - Posner: "Case Closed")
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

And as a follow-up, I’ve seen the “NWO and New World Order” concept bounced around, even among the best of sources.

The trick right now is, I would have to think that the OAS gets a good laugh everytime someone use the “NWO” acronym as it takes people’s eyes off of what’s already steam-rolling down the hill under their own acronym of OAS. Just my feelings on that.


177 posted on 06/17/2007 1:52:19 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: _Jim

? I’m not familiar with this.


178 posted on 06/17/2007 1:53:46 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: jedward

They sound just like the “World Socialist Party” to me,,,
It ain’t nothin’ new...names only “sugar-coat)...


179 posted on 06/17/2007 1:59:25 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Ya - and we could have used you two guys back during the Y2K debacle (except that jedward probably wasn't able to type at that age yet); ALex Jones was REAL BIG back then as he seems to be on a comeback now (psst: he's a 9/11 truther):

Y2K and Camps

180 posted on 06/17/2007 1:59:51 PM PDT by _Jim (Highly recommended book on the Kennedy assassination - Posner: "Case Closed")
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