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jedward ^ | 6-16-2007 | jedward

Posted on 06/16/2007 3:08:21 PM PDT by jedward

Where's one of the best places to learn about the United States?  Let's take a visit to the US Department of State's website and see what we can find.  When you first get to http://www.state.gov you are presented with the wonderful colors of Red White and Blue.  It's very easy to immediately see that a great deal of effort has gone into this wonderful place of learning.  So, back to the goal at hand, let's find the United States.  From the homepage you see an option to click on "Regions" and listed under that heading is the "Western Hemisphere".  That looks like the place to go, so let's click there.  Now, at this point we are at the "Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs".  Now along the left hand side we see a link for "Countries and Other Areas", so naturally we click there expecting to find the United States.  We see many countries listed like Cuba, Venezuela, Columbia and even Mexico, but for some reason the United States is not listed.

Well, surely the webpage didn't load properly, so we refresh the page and scroll back down and it's still not there.  At this point it's easy to say, I've missed something, so let's go back to the Homepage.  Now, we click on "Countries" again from the Homepage and immediately see a "Counties A-Z" link.  That's it, let's click there and stop all this searching.  Ok, the A-Z list is showing now, we see Cuba, China, Venezuela, Iran, Syria and North Korea.  We get to the U's and we don't see the United States.  Maybe they called it America instead, so let's scroll up and look under the A's.  The United States isn't listed there either.  While wondering in confusion we see near the "A's" a link titled "Independent States of the World", not Countries, but States.  So we click there and finally find the United States listed under the "U" section, only to my surprise there's no link on any of the "States" listed, just a name and number.

Last but not least, let's just go back to the Homepage and type "United States" in the search box and see what shows up first.

US Department of State - Home Page

... temporarily enter and depart the United States by air ... identification and Department
of State official proof ... USA.gov, What's New | Frequent Questions | Contact ...
www.state.gov/ - 2007-06-16

Shown above is what we see.  It gives us a link back to the Homepage, so that wasn't exactly helpful.

Let's play one more time.  Let's start at the Homepage, Click on "Western Hemisphere".  Now stop!  Look at the second item on the left side, the one that says "U.S. and Organization of American States".  Apparently the OAS (Organization of American States) can be spelled out, but not the United States, at least on the United State's Department of State's website anyway.  So click on that link and look for the United States link next to the Organizations of American States.  Or look below, and here's what we see:

The U.S. and the Organization of American States

---  OAS Background Information
---  Hemispheric Security
---  Organization of American States' Website
---  OAS General Assembly
---  Releases

Don't worry if your having trouble finding the United States listed above, because its not there.

You have found what the Department of State recognizes as your Country.

http://www.state.gov

http://www.state.gov/countries/

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/ci/

http://www.state.gov/misc/list/index.htm

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rt/oas/


So you don't see the United States, let's see what information is presented.

The U.S. and the Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

The U.S. Mission to the Organization of American States (OAS) is headed by Acting U.S. Permanent Representative J. Robert Manzanares. The OAS is the premier multilateral forum in the Western Hemisphere. Its 35 members are countries from North, South, and Central America, the Caribbean, and Canada. The charter of the OAS states that its basic objectives are to:

As a member of the OAS, the United States is committed to strengthening and working with the organization. This reflects the U.S. Government's determination to make optimal use of multilateral diplomacy to resolve regional problems and to engage its neighbors on topics of hemispheric concern.

Inter-American Democratic Charter
Remarks on the Occasion of the Special Meeting of the Permanent Council to Commemorate the Fifth Anniversary of the Adoption of the Inter-American Democratic Charter

The particulars of social and economic development are addressed through the commitments our leaders make at the Summits, and carried out through the Summits of the Americas process. That includes commitments to concrete, measurable actions, such as those which empower our people through property rights, remittances, and small business loans. The IDB’s new initiative, "Building Opportunity for the Majority," addresses these critical needs for the 40% of the people in the hemisphere who live on $3 a day or less, at the base of the pyramid.


Question:  Is there an American Union?  Answer:  Yes, there is and always has been one as originally titled such back in 1890.  Today, it's still an American Union, only it goes by a different name (see the "Established" below).  That should end any questions regarding whether there is or isn't one.  If there isn't, then the Department of State might want to consider including the United States as a Country in the Western Hemisphere some day.

May 30, 2007

Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

Established: April 14, 1890, as the International Union of American Republics. Became the Pan American Union in 1910, then the Organization of American States in 1948 with the adoption of the OAS Charter in Bogotá, Colombia.

SPECIALIZED ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER ENTITIES
Much important inter-American business is conducted by separate entities, some of which are independent, some fully or partially funded by the OAS, and others consisting simply of periodic hemispheric meetings which receive support from the OAS Secretariat. Subjects covered include agriculture, labor, copyrights, private international law, highways, ports and harbors, railways, telecommunications, health and sanitation, statistics, travel, child welfare, women's issues, Indian affairs, and tourism. The conferences are attended by high-level officials and technical experts to further inter-American cooperation in these fields.

The Inter-American Children's Institute (IIN)  http://www.iin.oas.org

The Inter-American Commission of Women (CIM) http://www.oas.org/cim

The Inter-American Defense Board (IADB) http://www.iid.org

The IADB has as one of its principal organizations the Inter-American Defense College http://www.jid.org/en/college/

The Inter-American Development Bank (IDB)  http://www.iidb.org

The Inter-American Institute for Cooperation in Agriculture (IICA)  http://www.iica.int

The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) http://www.paho.org

The Pan American Institute of Geography and History (PAIGH)  http://www.igph.org

The Pan American Development Foundation (PADF)  http://www.padf.org

Question:  Is the 2007 Amnesty Bill a joke or a diversion of some kind?  Answer:  You should be able to answer that question by now...

Message to ALL Republicans & Democrats:  Unless you're ok with the dissolution of the United States and your Country not even getting a link on the Department of State's web-site, then stopping this Immigration/Amnesty bill should be your priority right now.  This is the first step in "We The People" meaning something again!

jedward


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To: hedgetrimmer

Is that a rhetorical question? If not, how the hell would I know?


141 posted on 06/17/2007 10:20:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jedward
You get it! Yea!!! :)

Many of us do.

142 posted on 06/17/2007 10:24:51 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

“Many of us do.”

But enough citizens? This is precisely why a Senator can and will go against his on own consituents. We can stop the immigration bill this time...but...until enough American citizen’s realize it, the long term future of Sovereignty (100-500 years) looks dim.

I’ve seen many, many OPED’s, column’s, etc., but I hadn’t seen anyone (authors, analysts) reviewing what currently exists and has for over a hundred years. I recognize the Dept. of State as an accurate source of information. They acknowledge the OAS, so for anyone to say there’s no North American Union...they either haven’t visited the DOS website, their playing symantics or they’re in denial. All of which is quite plausible. Sad, but that’s where we are.


143 posted on 06/17/2007 10:40:34 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: kabar

The operative word is ‘any’.

There must be some scuttlebut on those laptops.

And I’ve always wondered why the state department has taken on such an anti-American flavor in the last fifty years or so.


144 posted on 06/17/2007 10:47:00 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: jedward
We see many countries listed like Cuba, Venezuela, Columbia and even Mexico, but for some reason the United States is not listed.

Could be because they figure if you are the U.S. Dept. of State's website, you already know about the U.S. They may be figuring wrong, but seems a reasonable assumption to me.

145 posted on 06/17/2007 10:49:25 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

“And I’ve always wondered why the state department has taken on such an anti-American flavor in the last fifty years or so”

You noticed that trend as well...


146 posted on 06/17/2007 10:53:53 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: MEGoody

“They may be figuring wrong, but seems a reasonable assumption to me.”

That’s a reasonable assumption, yes. As we’ve learned, there’s several places and means to learn about the US.


147 posted on 06/17/2007 10:56:39 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
And I’ve always wondered why the state department has taken on such an anti-American flavor in the last fifty years or so.

Another rhetorical question? I don't accept your premise. I have served 8 years as a naval officer and 28 years as a foreign service officer. I see no difference in the loyalty of those I served with, either in the USN or the State Department. Where do you come up with this crap?

148 posted on 06/17/2007 10:59:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: MEGoody
Could be because they figure if you are the U.S. Dept. of State's website, you already know about the U.S.

If you're living in another country and came on the SD web site to learn about the US then you're s#!t outta luck, wouldn't you say?

149 posted on 06/17/2007 11:16:52 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: jedward

No offense, but......much ado about nothing. The State Department isn’t a “domestic affairs” operation; it is our conduit for diplomatic and other dealings with the rest of the world. I certainly wouldn’t EXPECT to find exhaustive information about the US on their site.


150 posted on 06/17/2007 12:07:26 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline

“No offense, but......much ado about nothing.”

To some, yes. No offense taken, I’m used to watching people be numb over their country disolving. It’s much easier to just ignore it.


151 posted on 06/17/2007 12:13:33 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

“much ado about nothing”


152 posted on 06/17/2007 12:15:07 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

The country isn’t “dissolving” simply because you didn’t find exhaustive information about the US on the Web site of the cabinet-level department that is responsible for FOREIGN dealings. That’s really all there is to it.


153 posted on 06/17/2007 12:15:36 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline

“That’s really all there is to it.”

Ok.


154 posted on 06/17/2007 12:17:36 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Take heart JW, some get it some don’t and some don’t want to.


155 posted on 06/17/2007 12:26:34 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Yep. Not surprised at all.


156 posted on 06/17/2007 12:37:33 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: processing please hold

“If you’re living in another country and came on the SD web site to learn about the US”

One thing is undeniable for sure...they’ll have one hell of hard time finding it :)


157 posted on 06/17/2007 12:39:57 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

It is a big dot though :)


158 posted on 06/17/2007 12:49:29 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

http://www.forthecause.us/media/ftc-video-CNN-AmnestyBillsWorstProvisions_070523.wmv

Hey WB...watch this from Lou Dobbs. He seems to “get it”. He mentions the Fast Track for SPP & the North American Union.


159 posted on 06/17/2007 12:55:03 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Almost so big, that people simple can’t see it, not even with periferal vision. Standing too close to the Dot.


160 posted on 06/17/2007 12:57:15 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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