Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 3 June 2007

Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces ^ | 3 June 2007 | Various Big Media Television Networks

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, June 3rd, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Democratic strategists Bob Shrum and James Carville; Republican strategists Mary Matalin and Mike Murphy.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo.; Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Iraqi President Jalal Talabani; Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; NASCAR driver Kyle Petty.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Richard Shelby, R-Ala.; Elizabeth Edwards, wife of presidential candidate John Edwards; Tagg Romney, son of presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

[mathluv]

I probably got the same e-mail from her. I haven't gotten any response to the rest of my e-mails. Cornyn's camp sent one out asking for donations for his re-election. I told him to vote against the bill, then I would donate and work for his re-election.

My understanding is that both KBH and Cornyn voted FOR a portion, or the most recent related bill, instead of against.

[txradioguy]

Check yer FReepmail.

[bray]

Token George Will doesn’t like him?? Where do I send the check??

Pray for W and Our Troops

[ThreePuttinDude]

An analysis of Census Bureau data shows that the nation's foreign-born or immigrant population (legal and illegal) reached a new record of more than 35 million in March of 2005. The data also indicate that the first half of this decade has been the highest five-year period of immigration in American history. This Backgrounder provides a detailed picture of both numbers and the socio-economic status of immigrants.

A Snapshot of America's Foreign-Born Population in 2005

Among the report's findings:

* The 35.2 million immigrants (legal and illegal) living in the country in March 2005 is the highest number ever recorded -- two and a half times the 13.5 million during the peak of the last great immigration wave in 1910.

* Between January 2000 and March 2005, 7.9 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) settled in the country, making it the highest five-year period of immigration in American history.

* Nearly half of post-2000 arrivals (3.7 million) are estimated to be illegal aliens.

* Immigrants account for 12.1 percent of the total population, the highest percentage in eight decades. If current trends continue, within a decade it will surpass the high of 14.7 percent reached in 1910.

* Of adult immigrants, 31 percent have not completed high school, three-and-a-half times the rate for natives. Since 1990, immigration has increased the number of such workers by 25 percent, while increasing the supply of all other workers by 6 percent.

* Immigrants were once significantly more likely to have a college degree, but the new data show that natives are now as likely as immigrants to have a bachelor's or graduate degree.

* The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 29 percent, compared to 18 percent for native households.

* The poverty rate for immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) is 18.4 percent, 57 percent higher than the 11.7 percent for natives and their children. Immigrants and their minor children account for almost one in four persons living in poverty.

* One-third of immigrants lack health insurance -- two-and-one‑half times the rate for natives. Immigrants and their U.S.‑born children account for almost three-fourths (nine million) of the increase in the uninsured population since 1989.

* The low educational attainment of many immigrants and resulting low wages are the primary reasons so many live in poverty, use welfare programs, or lack health insurance, not their legal status or an unwillingness to work.

* A central question for immigration policy is: Should we allow in so many people with little education, which increases job competition for the poorest American workers and the size of the population needing government assistance?

* Immigrants make significant economic progress the longer they live in the United States, but even immigrants who have lived in the United States for 14 or 15 years still have dramatically higher rates of poverty, lack of health insurance, and welfare use than natives.

* States with the largest increase in immigrants are California, Texas Georgia, New Jersey, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Washington, Virginia, Arizona, Tennessee, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, South Carolina, and Mississippi.

* Immigration accounts for virtually all of the national increase in public school enrollment over the last two decades. In 2005, there were 10.3 million school‑age children from immigrant families in the United States.

* Immigrants and natives exhibit remarkably similar rates of entrepreneurship, with 13 percent of natives and 11 percent of immigrants self‑employed.

* Recent immigration has had no significant impact on the nation's age structure. Without the 7.9 million post-2000 immigrants, the average age in America would be virtually unchanged at 36 years.

[snugs]

Disagree if companies relocate well paid skilled job disappear as well I have personal experience of this.

[eeevil conservative]

I don’t think many who voted for Bush voted Dem...

I think they stayed home or voted 3rd party....

I, however voted Republican...

I believe in working within the party to change our leadership into what we want it to be...I think that is how our forefathers wanted us to be....

As Laura I pointed out...we have been very faithful to the President, and this is what I call a deal-breaker...

like in marriage..ya don’t divorce because she is not a good cook, or not a good housekeeper....or because he won’t pick up his dirty laundry....but then- there are DEAL BREAKERS....

I cannot support this Presient on this issue...CANNOT...

[MNJohnnie]

Yeah interesting thing about Rass. He stopped doing his daily polls on Presidential approval rating because all thru May they weren’t moving. Then they did a poll that told them “Republican identification is at it lowest ever”; and NOW suddenly Rass is back publishing Presidential Approval polls that moved a whole 3 points!

Of course what is lost in all the noise is Rass weights his polls based on party identification. SO when the poll on party identification came back last week, he reweighted his polls to interview fewer Republicans!!!! So of course by that simple structural change the President’s number was going to go down! Pretty cool the way the Ultras love polling when it tells them what it wants to hear (Immigration) but they ignore polls that tell them what they DON’T want to hear (2008 Presidential Candidate support numbers)

Seems the polling data on Immigration is just as confusing as on any other issue. Contrary to what the Ultras keep telling themselves they have NOT won the debate on this issue yet.

http://www.pollingreport.com/immigration.htm

[Bahbah]

What did Will (and the panel) say about Fred?

That he's an empty vessel, that there is no there there, that he is a Rorschach test for conservatives who see what they want to see, that he's never really ever done anything....

[snugs]

I understand your position but I do not agree with you calling him Jorge this is disrespectful and does your argument no good.

Said in friendship :o)

[MNJohnnie]

I guess the fact that the Democrat Senators filibustered last fall to keep all enforcement provisions from US House 4477 out of the Senate bill is just lost on the Ultras.

[eeevil conservative]

Thank you!

I understand— like I said— I use humor to try and ease the sting...but on this one issue, he really does not have my respect...

I will still fight valiantly for him on Iraq and other issues I believe him to be right on....

btw— YOU ROCK!

;-)

[SE Mom]

LOL! Thanks. I will be interested to watch what he does when Fred proves otherwise:)

[roses of sharon]

It reminds me of the public falling for decades of slanderous ads against Republicans/Conservatives, claiming they want to destroy the environment, poison the water and air, kill the protected animals and such.

Only to find themselves paying $4 bucks a gallon for gas, and THEN bi*ching and moaning about that! And falling for a new round of ads claiming that the evil Bush and his evil oil companies are in a conspiracy together.

Good grief, this nonsensical decision making by Americans come about with a massive liberal “news” media propagandizing serious issues, of which I could name 10 more!

[txradioguy]

“I cannot support this Presient on this issue...CANNOT..”

I’m in agreement with you there...and this is an issue I’ve disagreed with the President since before I became FReeper.

There are many things I support this president on.

But for some reason I get the feeling that it’s near the end of his Presidency...the war has beaten him down emotionally...the media and the Democrats have done that physically...and he’s just tired of the fight and this is his cave in to the Left.

Like he’s saying “fine you want it...*sigh*...you got it.”

The only upside to all of this debate is that it’s distracting the Media from leaking any more top secret operations in foreign countries to the enemy on the front pages of the NY Slimes.

[AuntB]

That's why the locals will eventually solve immigration debacle one small town/city at a time.

Not if the Senate bill passes. There won't be any more 'illegal' aliens, and no local government will be able to touch them.

[Cedric]

Currently, ALL jobs associated with companies which relocated have been supplanted by other jobs, hence, the near-record low unemployment in America.

[SnarlinCubBear]

Come on - we pay for their livlihood now in many ways - unseen ways. Mandated by the gov’ment ways. Healthcare being the foremost. We pay for their babies being born, emergencies to ER, food stamps. So we pay 4 cents more for a head of lettuce - so what? I’m fairly sure if the really cheap labor went away someone would invest in R&D to find a MACHINE that would do the job.

You know, it’s heartbreaking too to see them living under our bridges, carrying their belongings around on a backpack. I go into my grocery store at night, and there they are, huddled in the aisles trying to find the beans and tortillas, smelling like campfire.

Then they look you over, up and down and it gets menacing. I watched a group of them hang like vultures in a truck, eyeing a white gal about 18 who was waiting for her ride home from work. I approached her and offered her a ride. Some of these people are not only poor and needy, but perverts as well. They are hiding in plain sight.

[mathluv]

'I believe in working within the party to change our leadership into what we want it to be...I think that is how our forefathers wanted us to be....'

I agree with this, and apply it - locally and at the state level.

'I cannot support this Presient on this issue...CANNOT...'

I agree, here, too. And I am letting my pubbie congress critters know, in no uncertain terms.

I will NEVER vote for a dim again. But I want the pubbies to protect this country - which the dims never will.

[eeevil conservative]

well— I respectfully disagree...

I believe he is tired of crapt— but he wants this....he really really wants this, and is willing to fight his base on it.....he waited til he was re-elected to push this agenda through....and The Hammer from Texas being gone is a big help as well.....I just don’t think he would have allowed this bill the slightest of chances....although, I could be wrong on that.

[eeevil conservative]

amen, and amen!