Posted on 06/02/2007 10:22:51 AM PDT by nj26
President Bushs advocacy of an immigration overhaul and his attacks on critics of the plan are provoking an unusually intense backlash from conservatives who form the bulwark of his remaining support, splintering his base and laying bare divisions within a party whose unity has been the envy of Democrats.
It has pitted some of Mr. Bushs most stalwart Congressional and grass-roots backers against him, sparking a vitriol that has at times exceeded anything seen yet between Mr. Bush and his supporters, who have generally stood with him through the toughest patches of his presidency. Those supporters now view him as pursuing amnesty for foreign law breakers when he should be focusing on border security.
Postings on conservative Web sites this week have gone so far as to call for Mr. Bushs impeachment, and usually friendly radio hosts, commentators and Congressional allies are warning that he stands to lose supporters a potentially damaging development, they say, when he needs all the backing he can get on other vital matters like the war in Iraq.
I think President Bush hurts himself every time he says it is not amnesty, said Senator Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, referring to the bills legalization process for immigrants. We are not all that stupid.
This week, in discussing Mr. Bushs recent comments accusing conservative critics of the immigration legislation of fear-mongering, Rush Limbaugh told listeners: I just wish he hadnt done it because hes not going to lose me on Iraq, and hes not going to lose me on national security. But he might lose some of you.
Such sentiments have reverberated through talk radio, conservative publications like National Review and Fox News. They have also appeared on Web sites including RedState.com and FreeRepublic.com...
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'He doesn't need that base anymore", or..
'You're on your own Jeb", or
"I promised this to Vince and Teddy and by God, I'm giving it to them." Or..
"Thanks to all you borderless Mexicans who helped elect me back in Texas."
You made a very good observation, but it could grow to be a long list.
I've cited specific sources that state otherwise. You are free to do the same. If you can't find a statement from Bush pre-reelection in which he proposes to put illegals on the Path to Citizenship, then please concede you were wrong, that Bush did lie.
You might try using Google , and using the search terms "path to citizenship" + Bush + 2004. Good luck, and please get back to us.
Hopefully, the RNC is also getting desperate...and a clue.
Also, to #80; "Carter only gave away a canal" would make a nifty bumper sticker. If there was time for bumper stickers.
This ought to be on the masthead for Free Republic!
Along with this:
Fundamentally, they do not understand that they are our servants and employees and we are their intellectual betters.
Well Said.
BUMP!
Just one of my points showing Savage is a liberal was that I said Savage was for more gun legislation/more gun control . and you said that was a lie without you showing any proof that it was a lie. I heard him say that. and so did the guys at this gun web site: You keep saying things i say are lies without you putting up proof. this is some guy posting on that site talking about Savage.
"His statements were that if teachers and students had been armed they would have only been able to shoot themselves in their own feet and would not have stopped the murderer. Additionally he started up on the fact the murderer was able to legally purchase a firearm and that there need to be "more laws". He sounds like a CNN anchor"
Here is a link where someone else has heard Savage is for the minimum wage
I am really for building a fence and stopping illegal immigration. I don't care about Bush. I just care about stopping Democrats/liberalism/socialism and stopping illegal immigration. Amnesty must be stopped. Democrats are trying to bring to the U.S.A 200 million poor 3rd world democrat voters so that they can turn the U.S.A into socialist Venezuela or Cuba. I didn't donate to liberal Democrat Jerry brown like Savage did . Jerry brown is for increasing illegal immigration. Savage is a Berkley, liberal hack: Savage Backs pro-immigrant liberal Jerry Brown
As the San Francisco Chronicle reports, Savage is a top contributor to Browns campaign against conservative state senator Chuck Poochigian. His gift of $5,600, the maximum allowable under state law, was merited, Savage told the Chronicle after being outed. Why? Because You have to make choices in an imperfect world.
Why would a conservative back a liberal over a conservative? Because Savage is a liberal putting on an act to make money. Savage Backs Democrat Brown link 2
This latest Amnesty bill was written by Democrat Ted Kennedy. Practically every democrat congressman is for this Amnesty bill because they will get 20 million new democrat voters. Democrats control congress . but Savage blames the GOP.
This latest horrible Amnesty bill was written by Democrat Ted Kennedy. DEMOCRAT Ted Kennedy has been behind every Amnesty bill and every bill that has increased immigration from the 3rd world based on family ties since 1965. Before 1965 almost all immigrants to the U.S were from Europe. And they became Americanized. Now after Ted Kennedy and his bills since 1965 we have had an invasion of 3rd world poor,socialist, uneducated democrat voters. That Savage don't REPEATEDLY make this point shows that Savage is just trying to blame the GOP.
Savage called for the resignation of Dennis Hastert during the height of election and the liberal media Foley fiasco. This showed me Savage's true liberal colors . Savage was trying to throw the election to the Democrats. and looks like he succeeded. He still has conservatives mad at Republicans and not Democrats even though Democrats are in control of Congress and it was Republicans who stopped this Amnesty last year. A conservative knowing that he has the 3rd most influential radio show would not call for the resignation of the Republican Speaker of the House at the height of the election. If Hastert would have resigned then the Democrats would have won even bigger. Plus Hastert didn't do anything wrong but savage still called for his resignation. it was on obvious attempt by a liberal hack to help Democrats win the election. and I heard him say that. Also other FreeRepublic posters like Checkers who I linked to also heard Savage say that.
Also Savage has generalized the GOP. And he has labeled them as big spenders when 84% of spending is mandatory if you include military spending. why doesn't savage mention that? Savage donated money to liberal democrat Jerry Brown who is for illegals. Instead of you savage supporters spinning for a liberal cult leader like Savage, why don't you spin for America, for freedom, for conservatism, and against Democrats/socialism and against Amnesty?
You keep spinning or saying that all the evidence i put up is a lie and calling me names. It doesn't matter what I am.Savage is the one who has power to affect elections and he did . He helped Democrats gain power and now Democrats are trying to pass Amnesty for 20 million illegals something that the Republicans Savage tears apart didn't pass in 12 years they were in control. You keep saying that what i say is lies and calling me names. I did put up several links from different web sites backing up my allegations against Savage. And in my previous posts i have links to the rest of the points (mostly links to other freepers who have can back up what I said). Still I don't know if i have time to put up links to every little point I make to fight against your tactics of calling me a liar and a bush bot and just insinuating that every thing i say is wrong and silly. I don't know if i want to put up with that either as i like to engage in fair debate not that it hurts my feelings or anything. what's it to you anyway? do you care that Savage helped Democrats get into power? that is an undeniable fact. Savage bashed the GOP so relentlessly during the election year that Savage helped Democrats get into power.
Sometime between November 7, 2008 and January 19, 2009, President Bush will sign the Social Security Totalization Agreement vis a vis Mexico.
Doesn't surprise me a bit. One observation: I doubt it was really the first time.<<
Some of them are posting on Free Republic. (Only joking...I think...)
“We are the most charitable country on the face of the earth...We support millions of third world citizens...That will be history when we become them...”
Ain’t that the truth!?
Yeah, why have doors either.....no one will ever steal, because we’re confident,.!?
NO anchor babies.
NO automatic citizenship for alien children born in USA.
Rove, you not-so-magnificent bastard. You can't see this coming? hello?
Every day that I log onto FR, I see more and shriller headlines referring to “the base”. Reminds me of a typical, early Chaves speech in which he says “democracy” twice a sentence. Makes us sound like al Qaeda.
This is an effort on the administration’s part to be nice for a while prior to dropping the hammer. It is their technique.
I’ve always said that the first illegal alien bill must be:
1. Total closure of all borders and coasts.
In my mind, the 2nd should be:
2. Full criminalization of any illegal voting in any precinct in America, and penalties for precinct workers who do not fully check all voters’ identification to prevent illegal voting.
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