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Lack of Women in Eastern Germany Feeds Neo-Nazis
DER SPIEGEL ^ | May 31, 2007 | ????

Posted on 05/31/2007 1:44:05 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge

A new study has found that many more women are leaving economically moribund Eastern Germany. The result is a new, frustrated and largely male underclass. And many of them find succor in the neo-Nazi scene.

The problem has been well known for years: Ever since the mid-1990s, young Eastern Germans have been fleeing the region due to a lack of economic opportunity, hoping to find jobs in the western part of the country. Some 1.5 million have already left the region -- roughly 10 percent of the population of East Germany when the Berlin Wall fell. Even worse, most of those who leave are under 35 and many of them have above average education or training.

But according to a new study released by the Berlin Institute for Population and Development, there is another problem that accompanies the migration. Since 1991, more than two-thirds of all those who have left Eastern Germany have been women. The result is that in many towns in the region, there are simply not enough to go around -- some places are missing up to 25 percent of their young women. Even worse, the young men who stay behind are often poorly educated, unemployed and frustrated -- perfect fodder for neo-Nazi groups looking for members.

Miss Eastern Germany, Svetlana Tsys, won the Miss Germany contest earlier this year. Eastern Germany is suffering from a lack of young women.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: germany; girls; morons; nazis; wwiicurse
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To: Atlantic Bridge

“Svetlana Tsys” now THAT’S a strong German name...


21 posted on 05/31/2007 2:03:29 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: mnehrling

Yep. They don’t seem that far off from the original Nazis in that regard.


22 posted on 05/31/2007 2:03:54 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Why are you obstructing that nice ocean picture with those big boobs?


23 posted on 05/31/2007 2:04:13 PM PDT by ca centered (should I dye my mustache black?)
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To: Spirochete
Cali & Mass simply does not go with the rest of us Interesting since so many on this site think the country is going in the wrong direction. Thank goodness we are not with you.
24 posted on 05/31/2007 2:04:21 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Atlantic Bridge

If depends on whether you want to talk about the period during which the Nazis were struggling to gain power, or the period after they got it.

The SA was extremely important during the pre-1933 period. It is no stretch to say that the Nazis would never have gained power without Roehm or somebody very like him. It is a fact that Roehm and other homosexuals dominated the SA totally. They also leaned more in the Socialist rather than the Nationalist direction.

In June, 1934 Hitler destroyed the SA leadership, to some extent using their homosexual practices as an excuse. Thereafter the Nazis persecuted homosexuals, although a good many homosexuals remained prominent in the system throughout. The Nazis never suffered from a compulsion to be overly consistent or logical. :)


25 posted on 05/31/2007 2:06:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: kawaii
“Svetlana Tsys” now THAT’S a strong German name...

She was named in the waning days of the Soviet Union.

Where I work, we have a pretty large international practice, and we take a couple of German law graduates (usually in their late 20s) each year to help out with some of our transactions.

The ones we get from West Germany speak wonderful English as their second language. The East Germans speak fluent Russian as their second language, and struggle with English as a third.
26 posted on 05/31/2007 2:07:24 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
In the UK, they are referred to as yobs or chavs. In the US, we call them peckerwoods, but they do not comprise a significant share of the population outside of a few isolated areas. I can see how they can be a problem in Germany.

Hoenecker ruined the land of Otto Von Bismark and the Hohezerolans (sp)..

27 posted on 05/31/2007 2:07:32 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Rummyfan
I saw much the same attitude in a visit to Poland in 1999.

Interestingly enough, the Poles who come to the US adapt quickly to the "culture of opportunity" (versus the culture of entitlement) very quickly. I just wish they would stop wearing cheesy track suits and gold chains, and blasting techno music out of their Escalades in Greenpoint/Ridgewood. ;-)

28 posted on 05/31/2007 2:10:51 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: FormerLib

Atlantic Bridge is right. Being gay under the NAZI’s would get you a free shower.


29 posted on 05/31/2007 2:11:15 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Well - even America has its problems with dumb propaganda that is distorting the truth. I understand that it is easy to ridicule nazis as homosexuals and that some people might have interest in doing so. But it is simply not true.

As a German who was born into a family with some interesting connections in our society I had the “privilege” (sarcasm) to meet many men who acted in decisive position in the nazi regime. I.e. my mother was the secretary of Baldur v. Schirach’s son when she was a young woman. Von Schirach was “Reichsjugendfuehrer” (leader of the Hitler youth) and jailed after Nuernberg in Berlin Spandau. Although I hate those guys from the bottom of my heart (most of them are dust in the meantime), I have to say that I never ever met a homosexual among them.


30 posted on 05/31/2007 2:11:20 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (In varietate concordia!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Umm...last I checked there was no ‘East Germany’ anymore...


31 posted on 05/31/2007 2:11:40 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (The best way to punish a man is to elect him to Congress)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Good analysis of your country. Very sad.

I hope that the churches are trying to reach these young people.


32 posted on 05/31/2007 2:12:19 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: ca centered; DCPatriot
Why are you obstructing that nice ocean picture with those big boobs?

You’ll find roughly the same idea on another thread at # 47.

33 posted on 05/31/2007 2:13:46 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Clemenza

Socialism is the greatest disease ever to inflict man.


34 posted on 05/31/2007 2:14:24 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Sure there is - the cultural divide still exists long after the wall fell.


35 posted on 05/31/2007 2:16:48 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: mnehrling
“My first thought when I read this was one of the prerequisites to being a neo-nazi is you have to be gay..”

Seems to explain our home grown nazis over in the democrat party to a tee.

36 posted on 05/31/2007 2:17:37 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

If all this is true, relocate those hard working muslims to the east, and it will become an economic and orderly powerhouse in less than a decade.

And if the Nazi’s decide to get too violent, they’ll get their heads lopped off with dull knives.


37 posted on 05/31/2007 2:18:57 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Swordfished; pretorian_PL; vader69; vahet pole; ken21; norton; LadyPilgrim; vox_PL; 1234; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

38 posted on 05/31/2007 2:19:27 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
I have to say that I never ever met a homosexual among them.

Read Scott Lively's book. It is well researched and carefully sourced.

39 posted on 05/31/2007 2:19:48 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: dighton

LOL I liked “she sure is a pretty girl, aren’t they”


40 posted on 05/31/2007 2:22:24 PM PDT by ca centered (should I dye my mustache black?)
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