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Dry Period In Spain Explains Neanderthals' Last Stand
New Scientist ^ | 5-18-2007

Posted on 05/18/2007 3:13:47 PM PDT by blam

Dry period in Spain explains Neanderthals' last stand

18 May 2007
NewScientist.com news service

While modern humans were taking over the rest of Europe, Neanderthals were somehow able to cling on in southern Iberia. Now a climate model has helped to explain why. It suggests the region became desert-like around 39,000 years ago, making it undesirable for modern humans.

Pierre Sepulchre from the University of California, Santa Cruz, and colleagues modelled climate and vegetation patterns over the Iberian peninsula around 40,000 years ago. In particular they were interested in the impact of "Heinrich event 4" - an episode of sluggish circulation and falling temperatures in the Atlantic Ocean lasting around 2000 years.

The results show severe drying over southern Iberia, starting around 39,000 years ago and persisting for at least 1000 years (Earth and Planetary Science Letters, DOI: 10.1016/j.epsl.2007.03.041). "Climate change reduced the resources, so that modern humans had no interest in continuing their expansion to the south," says Sepulchre. They did so only after conditions became favourable again.

The finding quashes the theory that rapid climate swings made Europe uninhabitable, but that southern Iberia remained a "Garden of Eden" in which the Neanderthals could still survive.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dryperiod; godsgravesglyphs; laststand; neandertal; neanderthals; spain
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1 posted on 05/18/2007 3:13:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 05/18/2007 3:17:27 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (In the end, history is what God remembers.)
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

A 24,500 year old 'hybrid' Neanderthal skeleton was found in Portugal. Doesn't that find rfute this theory?

See article here.

"The evidence for the interbreeding theory come from the discovery of the 24,500-year-old skeleton of a 4-year-old individual in Portugal.19 "

3 posted on 05/18/2007 3:18:50 PM PDT by blam
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A reconstruction of the 'hybrid' skeleton mentioned in post #3.

4 posted on 05/18/2007 3:20:27 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Not guilty!


5 posted on 05/18/2007 3:22:51 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: blam
They didn't disappear, they became democrats.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

6 posted on 05/18/2007 3:23:11 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Now a climate model has helped to explain why. It suggests the region became desert-like around 39,000 years ago, making it undesirable for modern humans.

How could this happen without the burning of fossil fuels?

7 posted on 05/18/2007 3:25:29 PM PDT by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: blam

Hey that looks like my sister.


8 posted on 05/18/2007 3:25:59 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: blam
A 24,500 year old 'hybrid' Neanderthal skeleton was found in Portugal.

That just proves that Portuguese women have always been easy.

9 posted on 05/18/2007 3:26:53 PM PDT by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: blam

It’s Ron Weasley!


10 posted on 05/18/2007 3:37:01 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: blam

“...so that modern humans had no interest in continuing their expansion to the south”

They must have had a meeting and decided to not expand to the South, whereas the the Neanderthal were not very good at meetings.


11 posted on 05/18/2007 4:00:11 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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Pierre Sepulchre

&&
Get out! That can’t be his real name!


12 posted on 05/18/2007 4:21:07 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Born to Conserve; LucyT

It was my people, haplogroup R1b (The Cro-Magnons), who rousted (or mated with) the Neanderthals out of Iberia. This is our 60,000 year migration map.

13 posted on 05/18/2007 5:01:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Ice Age Refuges

The Last Glacial Maximum(LGM), 23-18,000 years ago, one of the coldest periods during the whole Ice Age, chased everyone south. BTW, the people who would become the Vikings (R1a) were over in the red zone.

14 posted on 05/18/2007 5:08:31 PM PDT by blam
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Yes, it's another instance of mammoth told me there'd be days like these...
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

15 posted on 05/19/2007 9:38:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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To: 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; Brujo; ...
 
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16 posted on 05/19/2007 9:38:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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Thanks Blam.

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17 posted on 05/19/2007 9:38:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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Is that Amy Carter?

No rain in Spain
The strain went
Down the drain...


18 posted on 05/20/2007 6:26:48 AM PDT by Graymatter (FREDeralist)
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Pierre Sepulchre from the University of California...

How'd you like to have a name like "Sepulchre"? Great fun at Halloween parties....

19 posted on 05/20/2007 6:52:01 AM PDT by Renfield
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DRY???

You mean they ran out of beer, wine and liquor. No wonder they died out—probably mass suicides.


20 posted on 05/20/2007 8:40:26 AM PDT by wildbill
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