Posted on 05/17/2007 10:42:42 PM PDT by freedomdefender
The bipartisan "grand bargain" on immigration announced Thursday -- promising the most sweeping changes to U.S. immigration law in more than two decades -- met a swift onslaught from the no-amnesty right and a warm, if qualified, embrace from leading pro-immigrant groups on the left.
No wonder. The pact offers quick legalization of the estimated 12 million people living illegally in the United States as of Jan. 1.
Within eight years, it also would provide permanent residence -- the coveted green card -- to 4 million new immigrants, mostly family members of those already here, who have been waiting a decade or longer to enter the United States from Mexico, the Philippines and other countries.
After that backlog is eliminated, the 12 million newly legalized also could apply for green cards.
The trade-off for Republicans is the promise that in the future, migration of relatives outside the nuclear family will be curtailed and admission to the United States will be based, at least in part, on education and talent as much as kinship ties to those already here.
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Anyone want to start a poll on which city gets hit first?
Yup, this is a bad spin-job. Let’s hope it backfires and helps push the anti-immigration lefties toward the right!
I know many people who are far from conservative, from both parties...all of them are against amnesty for illegal aliens.
I tell you this, most union members should quake in fear over this shamnesty. The soon-to-be legalized illegals will do your jobs for far less than you can afford. They aren’t taking jobs Americans won’t do, they’re just taking jobs. I suppose that’s a pretty nice thing if you’re a politician, media journalist, or college professor living in a gated community, but for us common folks, it’s a pending disaster.
THIS IS SOMETHING I DON’T GET, AND YES, I AM TYPING IN ALL CAPS CAUSE I’M MAD.
to get into this country, you can’t be a felon
committing social security, tax, other legal document fraud is a felony
if “immigrants (illegal)” have been here and COMMITTING FRAUD, that us regular citizens, WOULD LOSE OUR RIGHTS AS FELONS, AND SERVE TIME, ETC., why are our representatives giving a SPECIAL CLASS A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD?
i say if you are here now, fill out paperwork for a “work visa”, if you have committed fraud you are out, and otherwise, YOU CAN NEVER BECOME A CITIZEN BECAUSE YOU HAVE LIED AND NOT FOLLOWED THE RULES. an exception for me would be serving our country
i cry today for our country, and 3 of the stupid republicans are my (2) senators and my representative (flake), who has acted like a FLAKE
I went over to DU a while ago to see what they were saying about it.
Not a word.
i have been looking for a job out of necessity for the last 3 months, i was a stay-at-home mom, but now because of domestic violence, my kids and i are out, and i need to find a job.
i used to be fluent in spanish, fluency level is low,
but you can’t imagine, i couldn’t until i was looking for a job, how many jobs that i can’t apply for because i am not “bilingual” and how many of these are govt. jobs
i have told my older kids, the writing’s on the wall, you won’t be employable unless you speak spanish, that’s the way it is here in az
i can’t understand esp. why the african american leaders aren’t lining up with the majority of americans and “legal” residents against this
a higher % of young african american men are unemployed, and need entry level jobs, the “immigrants” have been taking those and now that they will be considered “legal”, it will be a harder fight to get a job (for just about anyone)
so, back to my point, why rev sharpton and jackson have you hitched your wagon to a horse that is going to lead to more unemployment of your “constituents”?
i hope that you disinfected yourself after
I joked earlier today that I was going to start taking Spanish classes. Maybe I’ll have to give that some serious thought.
This amnesty is wrong on so many levels, but I don’t know what we can do to stop it. What’s the average age of our senators? They probably think they can do pretty much whatever they want and still be reelected, and I tend to agree.
At least 40 million have entered illegally since they started using the bogus 12 million figure 5 years ago. Homeland Security said 10 millon got in in 2005 and the border patrol estimated about 10 million in 2006.
since most tax-paying americans and legal immigrants work, it’s difficult to just leave a job, go march, and threaten the country
i am ready, to follow a grass roots effort to go have a march of our own, those of us who pay taxes and pay the bills for the schools, higher medical costs (i don’t have insurance, can’t afford it), and let us march by the millions to our sell-outs offices, state capitals, hold up our flags proudly, and demand OUR RIGHTS AS CITIZENS TO BE TREATED EQUALLY AND HAVE OUR VOICE HEARD
i am tired of being told that after working my a** off for nearly my entire life, that only “immigrants (illegal)” are the “hard workers, doing jobs that we lazy, tax paying citizens won’t do”
i’m FED UP, i feel like savage today
and all of them have entered just to work real hard, become citizens, assimilate (sarcasm)
i’m sure that a large % a good, hardworking people, but they also disrespected our laws and country by not following the law, and for this we REWARD THEM?
WHERE’S EVERYONE ELSE’S GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD?
I would truly enjoy some honesty on the part of the elected as to their motivations for opposing those that voted for them. I am certain the reasons are many, and think the primary motivation is an effort to thwart poor fiscal management by the elected.
The elected see the need to add “new blood” to a broken Social Security system. Additionally, the $5,000 fine to be assessed each illegal immigrant will barely dent what our nation pays on the national debt for a 5 year period. The elected have put us on a perilous fiscal course and have opted to use the illegal immigrants to cover the mess they have created rather than adopt a sound course.
What we really need from the elected is honesty about their motivations. Just my opinion, but something is motivating the elected Democrats and Republicans, conservatives and liberals, to suddenly join together against the electorate.
Your heart is close to mine. But that's not how it's done. I know somebody that already had a Visa to come here on vacation every 6 months. She decided to get immigrate and work here (for more $ than I make as an engineer). There is a work attachment to the Visa. Somebody sponsors you to work for for them for 2 years. Then she can move to a different job. She has the green card with the intention of becoming a citizen.
Loosely translated from Portuguese she said "What kind of assholes should I expect to see in my new country?" I said "L.A. is not the place to judge my country from. There are better places to see."
i still have hope for this great country, but it’s dwindling
what kind of country do these shamnesty proponents want to leave for my children, my grandchildren, the average schmoes of America?
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