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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 - Columbia, SC 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread
May 15, 2007
Posted on 05/15/2007 4:25:06 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 Columbia, South Carolina 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread
Watch live coverage of the First-in-the-South Republican Party Presidential Candidate debate on FOX News Channel and FOXNews.com on Tuesday, May 15, at 9 p.m. EDT (6 p.m. PDT).
- Sam Brownback
- Jim Gilmore
- Rudy Giuliani
- Mike Huckabee
- Duncan Hunter
- John McCain
- Mitt Romney
- Ron Paul
- Tom Tancredo
- Tommy Thompson
The 90-minute debate will air from 9 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. ET (6 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.) and will be moderated by "Special Report" anchor Brit Hume. Questions will be posed by two panelists "FOX News Sunday" host Chris Wallace and White House correspondent Wendell Goler.
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: RiverRafter
"...Dr. Paul? You dont like the fact that he wants to address WHY people are upset with us ..."
No, it's perfectly reasonable to inquire why the terrorists are terrorists. It's just that Dr. Paul's pseudo-analysis is unconvincing. It's just blame-America-first, using the classic litany of assorted historical factoids that are obsessively cataloged and parroted by left-wing nutters.
It doesn't matter how many times they are repeated or who repeats them, there isn't any actual evidence that these things are some magical source of extremist Islamo-nutter hatred of the West. None. Zip. It's a fantasy invented by self-flagelating Westerners.
It's reminiscent of the Cold-War liberals who loved to blame the evil and weird stuff the Soviets did on "Western provocation" or "the Russians are fearful of being encircled" and so on, any excuse to blame everything on America and the West. When in fact the Soviets did their weird and evil things because they were living out a totalitarian ideological belief system. Stalin didn't torture, starve, and kill millions of his own people because of something America did. He did it because he was a bad person and held bad beliefs about how Russia and the states under his control should be. Same with present day hellholes in the Islamo part of the world. The items which loom large on the lists of people like Dr. Paul aren't the problem and no amount of sophistry will make them the problem. The problem is some bad people in the Islamo part of the world who have some very bad beliefs and who are intent on doing bad things.
When Dr. Paul completes building and programming his super-duper computer which can predict all future world events based on inputting the actions taken by American presidents, so that all unintended consequences of US foreign policy can safely be predicted and avoided, we'll all be suitably impressed. But as long as he's just trying to peddle warmed-over criticisms pulled out of back issues of The Nation from during the Reagan administration, no thanks.
To: calcowgirl
I knew it wouldn’t take long for R. Paul’s wheels to come off the cart in debate.
He is either in a far left dist. in TX or the folks there
are inbread for generations and don’t know any difference.
2,602
posted on
05/15/2007 9:56:10 PM PDT
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: claudiustg
The NRA oftens plays footsie with the Left. The old story: Dems propose a plan to tear down the Washington Monument, and the squishy liberal Republicans come up with a “moderate” counterproposal...to tear it down in three stages.
2,603
posted on
05/15/2007 9:57:07 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(It wasn't a debate. It was a mass interview....)
To: Tolsti
I’m watching the replay.
WADR, I don’t think Rudy and McCain did well at all.
McCain saying that none of the Dix 6 came across the border. That’s not the case. 2 came across the border illegally, as babies, yes, but illegal.
Rudy demonstrated that he is in no way a conservative, although I admit that if I must have a lib or whatever, I’d take him if I had to.
2,604
posted on
05/15/2007 9:57:13 PM PDT
by
HonestConservative
(If Conservatism is dead, why are the candidates claiming to be one.Hunter/Thompson08)
To: SoCalPol
There is a posibility that Ron Paul is a closet case.
2,605
posted on
05/15/2007 9:57:24 PM PDT
by
nwrep
To: James W. Fannin
Have the faith of your fathers, Patricia. My father was raised Episcopalian. He is now buried at Dallas Fort Worth National Cemetery. Today was his birthday and my brother put flowers with a couple little American flags on his grave.
Happy Birthday, Daddy.
2,606
posted on
05/15/2007 9:57:54 PM PDT
by
patriciaruth
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: sonic109
Gun laws will be up to the state . They wont change if Rudy wins or any other republican for that matter . Are you aware that Rudy, in the past, has called for NATIONAL gun licensing? His proposed policy ideas were embraced by the Clinton administration in writing the 1994 Crime Bill. Clinton was so impressed that he had Rudy meet with Janet Reno to try to draft legislation.
What makes you think he has changed now?
2,608
posted on
05/15/2007 9:58:47 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: HoundsTooth_BP
To: HonestConservative
They sucked. Pandering buttheads. but not as bad as Romney
2,610
posted on
05/15/2007 9:59:24 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: nwrep
2,611
posted on
05/15/2007 9:59:25 PM PDT
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: WFTR
2,612
posted on
05/15/2007 9:59:30 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: LibertarianInExile
re:
Funny how youre the one demonstrating the arrogance and utter lack of understanding throughout the thread, while
Im the one simply pointing out the clear statements of the candidate and stating the facts. I guess it must be arrogance to make you party hacks defend your lies and spin in the face of reality...or how do yall define it this week down at the RNC, lapdog?
Let’s see...
That lapdog is fighting for your elitist *ss; Your parents taught you common courtesy and respect... didn’t they?
Nice of you to think that ONLY YOU understand and everyone else here requires an explaination in bite size kindergarten chunks. We don’t know how lucky we are. /s
2,613
posted on
05/15/2007 9:59:39 PM PDT
by
AliVeritas
(I see the men and women on the battlefield... where are the men and women here?)
To: txradioguy
Ron Paul has over inflaated exit poll results due to all of you Liberaltarians working up calluses on your dialing fingers. LOL I can honestly say I have never voted libertarian. Can you say you never voted DEM? If a good Conservative isn't running I vote Constitution Party actually. I didn't vote for Bush in 2000 or 2004 and I did not vote for Bill Frist in his last term nor his replacement. I support Ron Paul because I actually bother to listen and read what he says. I don't let Glorious Party Leaders nor Media Spinbots do my thinking for me.
2,614
posted on
05/15/2007 9:59:53 PM PDT
by
cva66snipe
(Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
To: txradioguy
Sean says repeatedly that hes a Libertarian.
He also claims to be a good Catholic, but he's not that either, is he?
I say this as a former listener: Yawn Vanity is a phony who used conservatives to hit the big time. Once he got there, he promptly abandoned us. His ratings deserve to hit Air Amerika levels.
2,615
posted on
05/15/2007 9:59:56 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
To: patriciaruth
We have several, several!
There is only one man on that stage, that isn’t an improvement on the Dimwit crowd. Ok, there is NO one on that stage that is not an improvement.
Moreover, the second and half the third tier are very admirable and trustworthy men.
2,616
posted on
05/15/2007 10:00:09 PM PDT
by
HonestConservative
(If Conservatism is dead, why are the candidates claiming to be one.Hunter/Thompson08)
To: nwrep
“There is a posibility that Ron Paul is a closet case.”
Its possible that the sky is blue and grass is green.
2,617
posted on
05/15/2007 10:00:13 PM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
To: P-Marlowe
Fred is smart to stay out of this circus until the current set of clowns have all bored the audience to death. Fred doesn't need to make a move till mid or even late summer. The primaries are still 10 months away. Fred is doing more to solidfy the base with no money than these clowns are doing with their millions.
Personally, I'm getting bored with Fred, simply because he's not running. I give him a pass for the moment, for practical reasons, (Law and Order needs to finish its season.) But, the more time goes on after the start of summer, without his declaring, the more I'll put him into either the 'gutless wonder' class, (afraid to debate the other candidates), or the 'doesn't really want to run but likes the attention and flattery' class.
To: EternalVigilance
“The right to life is unalienable, and is protected by the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments.”
Which serve to hold the government taking of life to due process limits, not the citizens. The Constitution does not criminalize murder, that is left to the states.
To: mylife
What pisses me off is the growh of Gov. I can do a better job than some Gov Boob that I pay in taxes You can too. We are citizens after all Agreed
2,620
posted on
05/15/2007 10:01:26 PM PDT
by
cva66snipe
(Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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