Posted on 05/15/2007 6:37:58 AM PDT by nuconvert
Can someone explain to me how one can be an "American Muslim?"
Cancellation of American Idol, perhaps.......
I'm from Missouri. Show me.
Its not just tribal but also a system of governance. They will govern also non-Muslims, not belonging to the tribe, if they have the political power, but the no-Muslims will be lower acste, dhimmi’s, subservient to the true Muslim.
A Muslim that does not endorse the actions of Al Qaida is not a faithful Muslim and will be subject to punishment even by detah. The Koran supports Al Qaida.
There are no moderate Muslims only quiet Muslims (quiet until they are free to speak and act in favor of Al Qaida) and fallen Muslims (who shun Al Qaida but then must shun Islam as well)
Islam cannot ever be integrated with a Christian society to any degree where it may acquire political power. They will defeat all laws of liberty and free practice of religion. (that is their history. irrefutable)
You forgot “crickets chirping”
Great just spit my coffee all over the computer screen from laughing..now to cleaning up. Moderate muslin...hahahahah
Agreed.
I would welcome an explanation to either question.
Muslims worship Mohamed as a God. Yet Mohamed was far, far more violent and murderous than Al Qaida.
Muslims pray 5 times a day that they could be more like Mohamed.
You cannot be a Muslim and not pray for the success of Al Qaida.
To be a moderate Muslim is impossible. It is like being a moderate murderer. You either condone and support murderers (like the murderer Mohamed), perform murder like Mohamed, or you’re not Muslim.
“Inside the mosques, there are no moderate muslims..........”
That’s a valid opinion, though I’d say there are very few moderates, not none.
Fortunately, the vast majority do not attend mosque. They know what goes on in most mosques too, and stay away.
The bible advocates extreme violence. Stoning people to death for eating shellfish, or planting two crops next to each other. Even the NT isn't immune from silliness.
Matthew 10:34 - Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword
Mark 7:10 For Moses said, Honor thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
I won't even post any quotes from the Old Testament!
You're right of course, but my point was, what really causes the problem for us at this stage is the tribalism. If "Islam" were just "a system of governance" - or just "a religion" - without the tribalism (the xenophobia, the imperial/land-grabbing ambitions, the amoral "us vs. them" attitude) - everyone else would have far less of a problem with it.
“Not all Muslims are terrorists.”
Not all Muslims are Muslim, is what you say.
Oh I couldn’t agree more! Zalmay Khalizad he’s the worst of the lot, and don’t get me started on Colonel Douglas Burpee
http://www.nysun.com/article/31393
Road Map for Moderate Network Building in the Muslim World (long read)
RAND Corp. ^ | Angel Rabasa, Cheryl Benard, Lowell H. Schwartz, Peter Sickle
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818382/posts
Posted on 04/16/2007 6:09:23 PM CDT by Valin
Identifying Key Partners and Audiences
A critical part of U.S. network-building efforts, as well as in its broader public diplomacy and strategic communications policy, is identifying key partners and audiences. Difficulties in distinguishing potential allies from adversaries present a major problem to Western governments and organizations attempting to organize support for moderate Muslims. Work done by the RAND Corporation—in Cheryl Benard’s Civil Democratic Islam and Angel Rabasa et al., The Muslim World After 9/11—has begun to lay the framework for identifying ideological tendencies in the Muslim world,1 which is necessary in order to identify the sectors with which the United States and its allies can be most e.ective in promoting democracy and stability to counter the in.uence of extremist and violent groups.
Around the world Muslims differ substantially not only in their religious views, but also in their political and social orientation, including their conceptions of government; their views on the primacy of shari’a (Islamic law) versus other sources of law; their views on human rights, especially the rights of women and religious minorities; and whether they support, justify, or tolerate violence perpetrated in advancement of a political or religious agenda. We refer to these as “marker issues,” and the position of groups or individuals on them allows for a more precise classifcation of these groups in terms of their a.nity for democracy and pluralism.
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The biggest problem that islamists have is trying to explain away what is written out, CRYSTAL CLEAR, in their own damned bible.
Butt up, head buried! Good for you.
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