Yes, there is a moderate Islam - let's support it

THE JERUSALEM POST ^ | Apr. 17, 2007 | Daniel Pipes,

[Tolsti]

To believe in non-jihadist islam is wishful thinking, or even magical thinking. On par of believe in faries.

Would be laughable, if the stakes weren’t so high.

[ga medic]

I agree with your thinking. I went to Turkey with a Catholic Tour group, and we were welcomed warmly by the Turks...everywhere. We went into several mosques, which were spectacular in their design and architecture. We met with other Catholic groups in the area, and attended mass at a Catholic church. The people were of all types and from all areas of Turkey. There may be some antiquated law on the books in some small area somewhere, but the vast majority of the people here are very accepting of all religions. From my experience christians congregated in large public groups, and even worshiped together without fear. It was a wonderful place to visit, and I would encourage all of you that doubt that there are moderate muslims to do some research on the area.

[AdamSelene235]

Wernher von Braun:

I always shoot for the moon (but sometimes I hit London).

[Valin]

The problem is you and others here buy into the Wahhabist/Salafist version of Islam.
If what you are saying is true please explain why in the last elections in Malaysia & Indonesia the Islamist parties lost...badly...very badly? Or maybe you could explain why so many (Muslim) Iraqi soldiers are fighting along side American soldiers?
I guess these aren’t “Real” Muslims either.
Pakistanis Rally Against Mosque
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6560921,00.html
Monday April 16, 2007 8:01 AM

By ZARAR KHAN

Associated Press Writer

KARACHI, Pakistan (AP) - About 100,000 people rallied in Pakistan’s largest city Sunday against a radical Islamic mosque and seminary that launched a Taliban-style anti-vice campaign in the country’s capital last week.
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Or this guy
If you want sharia law, you should go and live in Saudi Arabia [Brit muslim speaks out]
The Times (UK) ^ | August 20, 2006 | by Shahid Malik
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686929/posts

What Do Muslims Think?
Amir Taheri
The American Interest
May/June 2007
http://www.able2know.com/forums/a2k-post2630847.html#2630847

[Valin]

Where are the “moderate” muslims in Pakistan

Pakistanis Rally Against Mosque
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6560921,00.html
Monday April 16, 2007 8:01 AM

By ZARAR KHAN

Associated Press Writer

KARACHI, Pakistan (AP) - About 100,000 people rallied in Pakistan’s largest city Sunday against a radical Islamic mosque and seminary that launched a Taliban-style anti-vice campaign in the country’s capital last week.
(snip)

[Mark Felton]

If you do not know who Mohamed is then you do not know what a Muslim is. Muslims worship Mohamed, period. Mohamed was a murderous pedohpile warrior who slaughtered and conquered vast lands. If Muslims do not follow and submit to Mohameds teachings then they are NOT faithful Muslims.

Only unfaithful Muslims are "moderate". There is no such thing as a moderate form of Islam. "unfaithful" Muslims are more peaceful, but peaceful Muslims may only be waiting their time. Islamic clerics will tell Muslims moving to a non-Muslim It is okay to lie if it advances their goals. It is okay to feign support of the US Constitution until they have acquired sufficient power to change it themselves.

•   ‘Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth’ --Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998
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• "In reality Islam is a revolutionary ideology and programme which seeks to alter the social order of the whole world and rebiuld it in conformity with its own tenets and ideals... ...Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam..." -- From Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, Jihad in Islam

• "Jihad and the rifle alone. NO negotiations, NO conferences and NO dialogue" -- From Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, Join The Caravan

• "What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?  (1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam. (a) The religion of the Unification of God; of freedom from associating partners with Him, and rejection of this; of complete love of Him, the Exalted; of complete submission to His Laws; "  -- From Osama Bin Laden "Letter to America" Nov. 24, 2002

• "... the march of resistance will continue until the islamic flag is raised not only over the minarets of Jerusalem but over the whole universe," -- Hamas Leader Mahmoud Zahar, January 16, 2004

• The Coming Islamic Takeover of the U.S.:  "Saudis often discuss the issue of the U.S. becoming a Muslim state in the future. On a March 17 broadcast on Iqraa TV, Saudi preacher Sheik Said Al-Qahtani discussed this issue, as well as the cases in which Muslims are permitted to declare a defensive Jihad: "… We did not occupy the U.S., with 8 million Muslims, using bombings. Had we been patient, and let time take its course, instead of the 8 million, there could have been 80 million [Muslims] and 50 years later perhaps all the US would have become Muslim…" -- from "Incitement to Jihad on Saudi Government - Controlled TV" MEMRI

• IRAN: "The Internal Debate in Iran: How to Respond to Western Pressure Regarding Its Nuclear Program" of June 17, 2004.(6) The main threats were:
  
  
  1. The recruitment and training of thousands of Iranian volunteers by Iran's Revolutionary Guards for suicide attacks against Western, European, and U.S. targets in Iraq, and their dispatch to Iraq.(7)
  
  2. Resumption of Iran's project for long-range Shihab 4 and Shihab 5 missiles, capable of reaching Europe and the U.S., by order of Iranian Leader Ali Khamenei.(8)
  
  3. Statements by senior Revolutionary Guards officials about a plan to eliminate "Anglo-Saxon civilization" using missiles and martyrdom [suicide] bombers, and about "29 sensitive targets" in the West, already identified by Iranian intelligence with the aim of blowing them up.(9)

[Valin]

Selective quotes from radical Islamists and their supporters (the Wahhabists/Salafists) only mean that they are out there. No one is saying otherwise, no one is saying that there are not problems inside Islam (hence the GWOT). The point is and despite the money that the Wahhabists/Salafists and the Saudis have thrown to promote their version of Islam they do not represent the mainstream of Islamic thought.
Once again
What Do Muslims Think?
Amir Taheri
The American Interest
May/June 2007
http://www.able2know.com/forums/a2k-post2630847.html#2630847