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RON PAUL, not Mitt Romney, won the first GOP Debate
Renew America ^ | May 8, 2007 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 05/11/2007 3:15:42 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian

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To: johnny7
Isolationist mentality? Maybe not be a bad thing considering where we have been, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Kosovo, Somalia, Phillipines. Afghanistan and Iraq. The Open border with Mexico, 12 million illegals in the U.S.. Northern American Union (Canada, U.S. and Mexico) I have been considering Fred Thompson but his reluctance to get involved in the fray is changing my mind. i can't read his. Ron Paul appears to identified where he stands by his voting record. Time for Fred to get off the fence. May is nearly half over.

Talk is cheap. Voting records speak louder than words.

61 posted on 05/11/2007 4:39:23 PM PDT by dvan
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

How did we win the election in the year 2000? We talked about a humble foreign policy: No nation-building; don’t police the world. That’s conservative, it’s Republican, it’s pro-American - it follows the founding fathers. And, besides, it follows the Constitution.
Ron Paul

I believe that when we overdo our military aggressiveness, it actually weakens our national defense. I mean, we stood up to the Soviets. They had 40,000 nuclear weapons. Now we’re fretting day in and day and night about third-world countries that have no army, navy or air force.
Ron Paul

When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
Ron Paul

http://paul4prez.blogspot.com/2007/03/ron-paul-quotes.html


62 posted on 05/11/2007 4:39:55 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
No, Ron Paul does not believe that Scooter Libby should be granted an extra-ordinary Pardon. Respecting the Constitution, he believes in letting the Courts do their Job.

How idiotic is that thinking?! Libby got prosecuted by a special counsel who was appointed in a unconstitutionally. Fruit of a Bad Tree (in spades) can not be allowed to be eaten.

63 posted on 05/11/2007 4:41:59 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

I know this isn’t going to be too popular of an idea, but I suspect that the poll was skewed by Howard Stern callers. In my opinion, Stern is skewing all TV polls, just like he did with American Idol. In the minds of those jokers, they probably feel like Ron Paul has the least likely chance of winning, so they called in to screw up the MSNBC poll. But that’s just what I suspect. I’m curious to see what happens after the Fox debate.


64 posted on 05/11/2007 4:42:21 PM PDT by murron
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To: KDD

Not going to vote for ANYONE who will not fight terrorism on their home turf not ours. ANYONE

65 posted on 05/11/2007 4:44:15 PM PDT by McCloud-Strife (John McCain: great American, poor Senator, Horrible Republican)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
>> It appears that Ron Paul has accepted the Judgment of the Courts, and believes that Libby deserves no extra-ordinary Pardon. And that settles that. <<

It certain does, if Mr. Paul had simply said that in the debate. Unfortunately, he just had to make a little snide remark that Libby should not be pardoned DUE to Libby's record on Iraq. That is certainly not a "constitutional" position, but I guess we can take comfort in the fact Ron Paul didn't really "mean" that and was just airing out his personal "feelings" on Iraq.

Once again, the question is whether Paul "won" the debate and the hearts of minds of votes when he made remarks like that. You Ron Paul supporters really seem to have difficulty with the concept that the person who would make the "best" President in your eyes is not necessarily the best "debator" on stage.

I support Tommy Thompson, and I don't think he "won" the debate, though overall I'd say his answers were better thought that your guy lecturing everyone else on what is "constitutional"

66 posted on 05/11/2007 4:55:40 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi, we elected ROSKAM)
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To: jveritas

Once again, the great jveritas chimes in with an insult in his very first post on the thread. It is a good thing you have done such fantastic work on translating iraq docs (and I mean that), because if not for that your vile personal attacks and total lack of interest in logical debate would have had you booted from here a long time ago.


67 posted on 05/11/2007 4:57:00 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: angkor

I am in full agreement with you, can you really consider it a debate? It had all the trappings of a cheap, paid infomercial which made the candidates look dopey and clearly unimpressive.


68 posted on 05/11/2007 4:57:42 PM PDT by seoul62 (Just asking, Seoul62)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Ron Paul sides with the so-called "9/11 truthers," who believe that the collapse of the WTC buildings was part of some vast governmental conspiracy.

I may have missed it, but what part of you link asserts that? It asserted that he goes on truther radio shows, and that he thinks the US will fabricate an incident to go to war with Iran, but I didn't see anything about the collapse of the WTC buildings.

69 posted on 05/11/2007 4:59:26 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; pissant; Paperdoll; Vigilanteman; AuntB
Let's see...Ron Paul is: Pro-Border Security... Pro-Port Security... Pro-Coast Guard.... Pro-Missile Defense... I suspect that the TRUTH is, you TOTALLY AGREE with Ron Paul on National Security!

So does Hunter.

Now, you may disagree with him on the Effectiveness of Foreign Wars -- but I say, even IF an Expansionist Foreign Policy DOES "work", let's protect our own Borders First and go from there!!

Hunter built the border fence in San Diego. He coauthored the bill that extends it for hundreds of miles. He's long been an advocate for secure borders.

In other words, Hunter backs up his words with action. And unlike Ron Paul, he grasps what would happen if we withdrew from Iraq now before the job is done: a bloodbath of epic proportions that would make the Killing Fields of Cambodia come off as a mere school shooting in comparison.

70 posted on 05/11/2007 4:59:26 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Let's see...Ron Paul is: Pro-Border Security... Pro-Port Security... Pro-Coast Guard.... Pro-Missile Defense...

Really? Perhaps you could point out some legislation in his many long years in congress that he's proposed or gotten into law on those subjects. Has Ron gotten any other congressmen to endorse him yet?

71 posted on 05/11/2007 5:03:57 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: LS
Ron Paul’s constituents in south Texas, I am sure, care far more about the open border, than they do about Iraq.
72 posted on 05/11/2007 5:05:57 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

It’s his reasoning that’s disturbing. He advocated not granting him a pardon for something totally unrelated to the criminal proceeding. And the crime was ludicrous as it was. How is THAT Constitutional?


73 posted on 05/11/2007 5:05:58 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
OP don't you know. ABC explained it all to us. It's just one guy going out and hitting every single poll on the internet thousands, no tens of thousands, of times..... ;)

He will be in the Fox debate and now today he'll be in the debate on CNN in New Hampshire. Will be nice to see a candidate instead of Giuliani's 'optimism', McCain's creepy 'gates of hell' with a smile, or Romney's $5000 suit (nothing wrong with being well dressed but when that's all you've got and you just parrot the other two hacks it's not really a candidacy is it?)

74 posted on 05/11/2007 5:07:02 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ron Paul is a good man. I've donated to one of his campaigns. I've been to one of his rallies. I've even met the man. I like him, but he's wrong about national security issues. We must fight the terrorists on their ground. We must drag them out of their caves and force them to surrender. If they won't surrender, we must keep killing them until none are left. That's a hard situation, but it's the reality that we face.

In the sense that Ron Paul distinguished himself from the field as holding a different view on our Muslim jihadist enemies, he did well in the debate. Some nominal conservatives do want us to leave Iraq immediately without concern about what happens next. They may be drawn to him as a result of the debate. They will not be enough to give him victory in any state primary or caucus, and his statements assured that he won't pick up enough support to win any primary or caucus. In that sense, he lost the debate.

Bill

75 posted on 05/11/2007 5:08:57 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; pissant
You mean "pork" like this?

Duncan Hunter may not be the biggest fiscal conservative of the lot, but that's only because he was one of those with the primary responsibility of funding our military. Why should I have a problem with that?

76 posted on 05/11/2007 5:12:40 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: McCloud-Strife
Iraq and Saddam did that to us? Hmmm, I thought the hijackers were mostly Saudi citizens. Not an Iraqi among them. The Islamic wahabbi terrorist movement was born in Saudi Arabia...not secular Iraq...at least Iraq was secular before we went in there. Now it is a country with an Islamic Constitution...a gift to them from our open borders administration.

Osma Bin Laden claimed the 911 attack on the WTC was, in part, because we had troops in Saudi Arabia. He demanded we remove them...and within 18 months of 911 we had done as he demanded. A coddle?

We cheer as a secular dictator is hanged while the President is in Crawford Tx holding hands with wahabbist Saudi Prince's.

If we secure our borders and limit any and all immigration from the ME we can be secure our safety. And this administration's diplomacy towards axis of evil member NK is lame...Carterish so to speak.

Describe what a victory in Iraq will look like. Sunni and Shia Muslims standing with Turkish Kurds holding hands and singing kumbaya? An Islamic Shia government in bed with Iran is what we have put in place. If nothing else, the nation building ambitions of that creature called the neo con has been discredited by this war.

77 posted on 05/11/2007 5:14:26 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: BillyBoy; All
He probably thinks that the US Air Force is not needed...
78 posted on 05/11/2007 5:15:29 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: KevinDavis
He probably thinks that the US Air Force is not needed...

You'd be wrong on that.

79 posted on 05/11/2007 5:18:39 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: TxCopper

It’s one and the same, as the first terrorist to come across the border with a dirty bomb will make clear.


80 posted on 05/11/2007 5:18:51 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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