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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious bigotry, alive and well today

May 4, 2007 - by Saundra Duffy-Hawkins

“I wouldn’t vote for a Mormon for dogcatcher, much less President of the United States!” There’s a lot of that kind of hateful rhetoric going around since Mitt Romney decided to throw his hat in the ring – as if Mormons are some kind of hideous evil monsters. The loudest anti-Mormon shouts, sad to say, are coming from America’s so-called “Christian right”. How can Mitt Romney hope to get a fair shake in this spiritually polluted atmosphere?

There was another man running for President who faced the same dilemma – John F. Kennedy – only he was the target of anti-CATHOLIC bigotry. In his 1960 speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, JFK said the following: “. . .I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end - where all men and all churches are treated as equal - where man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice - where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind - and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their words in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.” John F. Kennedy Library & Museum (Speeches, 1960). By the way, if you listen to the audio version of JFK’s speech, you will hear the hurt and frustration in his voice and the unfair treatment surely must have caused many a sleepless night.

Fast forward to 2007 where JFK might as well have been “whistlin’ Dixie”. The hostility toward Mormons today, in my opinion, is even worse than that suffered by JFK. Although it is said that JFK lost about a million votes to religious intolerance, Romney stands to lose even more if the anti-Mormon evangelicals hang together.

According to Media Matters for America - “. . . a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media” - FOX News is not reporting accurately on the level of evangelical hostility to the Romney run. Media Matters for America points out that among evangelical leaders rejecting Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson (National Day of Prayer and Focus on the Family, respectively), the Southern Baptist Convention (collectively), Pat Robertson (Christian Broadcasting Network), and Dr. D. James Kennedy (Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida). “Among many conservative evangelicals – who comprise a significant part of the Republican base – Mormonism is considered an un-Christian cult.” Media Matters for America (2007)

While stumping in Florida, a man in the audience stood up during the Q&A portion and said the following to Romney: “You, sir, you’re a pretender. You do not know the Lord. You’re a Mormon.” Media Matters for America (2007). This is the kind of un-American, disrespectful treatment Mitt Romney will apparently have to endure throughout the entire campaign – as if just being a Mormon is reason enough to open the floodgates for free flow of pent-up hatred and vindictiveness.

For the record, the Mormon bashers know full well that the official name of Romney’s church is “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” and the members should rightfully be called “members of the LDS Church” but the words “Mormon” and “Mormonism” have an aura of negativity so they prefer to use the “M” word as if it were dirty.

Less than five minutes cruising around the official LDS website (LDS.org) will show anyone who’s interested that the Church is a Christian organization, with Jesus Christ at the Head. There are no paid clergy – all are volunteers. Humanitarian aid is legendary. Members of the LDS Church believe in strong family values; they are patriotic, they are law-abiding upstanding citizens of their community. Many LDS young men right out of high school go on two-year missions – you know, the guys on bikes – and during their mission they don’t date, read newspapers, go to movies or watch TV; but rather they dedicate two years of their lives to serving others. Many women go on missions as well, and couples, only theirs is 18 months in length but the obligations are basically the same. Most members do not shop or go out to eat on Sundays – reminiscent of the good old days when shops and stores were closed in obedience to the Commandment, “Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy”. If they can help it, LDS Church members do not work on Sundays, either, preferring to spend the day at church and with their families. Church members are encouraged to store up a year’s supply of food and water so they will be able to care for their families in the event of an emergency. The LDS Church believes in self-sufficiency and self-reliance but in the event of a financial hardship the Church distributes food and supplies through their welfare (Bishop’s Storehouse) program. Members of the LDS Church do not drink alcohol nor do they use illicit drugs; they do not drink coffee and tea. A Mormon in good standing, therefore, will not be found in a drunken stupor puking her guts out at 3 a.m. anywhere in the world. Furthermore, members of the church are encouraged to dress modestly, be polite and courteous. And members of the LDS Church are faithful tithe payers. Come on, people, what’s not to love?

So what on earth is their beef, the anti-Mormon zealots? Why is there such disdain for the LDS Church and its members? In Hugh Hewitt’s book, “Mormon in the White House?” he states his thesis that the fierce anti-Mormon sentiment among main-stream Christians stems from one or two or all three of the following factors (in order of importance):

1) “It is just too weird.

2) “A Mormon president will supercharge Mormons’ missionary work.

3) “If there is a Mormon in the White House, Salt Lake City will call the shots, at least on the biggest issues.” Hewitt (2007, p. 221-227)

Hugh Hewitt has written an exquisite book about the Romney campaign and overcoming the “Mormon problem.” It’s a good read and I highly recommend it. Of the three problem points listed in the previous paragraph, Hewitt believes – unless some unforeseen blunder destroys his chances – none of the three is insurmountable for Mitt Romney. (Plus, he has the best hair.)

Well, I’m no Hugh Hewitt, not even close; he’s an icon on the conservative radio talk show circuit. Hewitt could talk circles around me (I’ve seen him in action in Sacramento); he’s brilliant; he’s well educated, well read, no doubt a genius, plus he’s kind of cute. I’m basically a “nobody” – an overweight grandma – but after having researched for this paper, I have come to a totally different conclusion as to why there is such in-your-face angst over Romney’s religion of choice: It’s all about money, power and control (in that order). I think they’re (the evangelical religious bigots, that is) scared half to death and are revving up their attacks, not to save souls, but to save their reputations (which if tarnished would lead to financial ruin).

As I said, all one must do is browse around the LDS official web site to see what the LDS Church believes and stands for. Any reasonable person would conclude that Mormons are not evil monsters at all. In fact, they are God fearing, Christ believing, Holy Ghost following people going about doing good. “You will know them by their fruit” and the LDS has plenty of fruit and they are willing to share.

Earlier, I stated that some high-powered ministries have publicly condemned Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson, the Southern Baptist Convention, Pat Robertson, and Dr. D. James Kennedy – just to name a few. There are hoards of others. Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric. I heard the message loud clear when I was a Baptist and when I tiptoed through evangelical/Pentecostal territories. Was I ever miffed when I later learned for myself the Gospel truth about the LDS Church.

Just think about it, please. If Dr. D. James Kennedy, for example, who wrote the book, The Wolves Among Us, were to admit he’d been wrong in labeling the LDS Church a “cult” that leads unwary ignorant people astray (to hell), what would become of his multi-million-dollar ministry? Suffice it to say, there’s big money to be had by sale of books, tapes, CD’s, videos, and other anti-Mormon propaganda, not to mention speaking engagements and world-wide religious crusades. We’re talking trillions, all told. I realize the anti-Mormon aspect of these ministries is but a small portion of the business, but if the truth came out, that they had been using falsehoods about the LDS Church as a cash cow, their entire empires could tumble.

The ABC News program 20/20 aired on March 23, 2007, exposed the lavish lifestyles of some of the top evangelical preachers – million dollar mansions and personal jets. ABC News - 20/20 (2007) (Again, the LDS Church has no paid clergy.)

It’s nothing new. Severe harassment and persecution has been the lot of the LDS Church since it’s inception in 1820 when a 14-year-old boy named Joseph Smith saw visions and communed with heavenly beings. Rather than discuss the spiritual aspects of the LDS Church, however, let’s stick to facts of history. Taken from a college-level early American history textbook, Joseph Smith, upon experiencing the visions and visitations, believed “that God had work for me to do, and that my name should be for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 292). The textbook continues, “They were met with hostility virtually everywhere they went . . . . As the movement gathered momentum, hundreds of people joined the church; entire congregations of churches of other faiths joined . . .” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 293)

During the dark time of American history when slavery was flourishing and when Native Americans were forced from their lands, the pioneers of the LDS Church also suffered at the hands of unscrupulous politicians, governmental leaders, and angry hate-filled mobs. “In the face of relentless persecution, Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, had led his flock to Illinois. There they had established the town of Nauvoo, which by the mid-1840’s had become the largest city in Illinois with over 15,000 people. . . In June 1844, a mob of non-Mormons broke into the jail where Smith was being held and killed both him and his brother. . .The Mormons abandoned Nauvoo in the spring of 1846 as anti-Mormons pounded the town with cannon, destroying the Great Temple. In a well-coordinated migration, 15,000 Mormons moved in stages to the Great Salt Lake.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 334-335) Many walked all the way and many died along the way, including innocent babes.

Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge – and they had planned to castrate him, too. On October 27, 1838, the then governor of Missouri issued an “extermination order”: “The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary . . .” Far West History (n.d.) Please note that the order called for exterminating “Mormons” making no distinction between men, women and children, and indeed women and children were subject to the extermination order.

In an event known in LDS history as “the Haun’s Mill Massacre”, precipitated by the extermination order, 30 to 40 LDS families were surprised by some 200 to 250 militia. After the smoke cleared, seventeen LDS people lay dead including a ten-year-old boy. Thirteen LDS members were wounded including a woman and a seven-year-old boy. “A few Missourians returned the next day and took plunder.” LDS FAQ (n.d.) No Missouri militiamen were killed but three were wounded. Just a few years earlier, the LDS folk who died that day had been members of other churches - Congregational or Methodist or Baptist or Presbyterian.

In l976, Governor Bond of Missouri officially rescinded the extermination order and presented apologies for the “unfortunate developments” it caused. Quoting from Governor Bond’s Executive Order: “WHEREAS, Governor Boggs’ order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and . . . Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering rescind Executive Order Number 44 dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs. . .” Far West History (n.d.) The individuals who harassed, abused, and even murdered Mormons in cold blood were never tried for their crimes.

I read Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from Birmingham Jail and it really touched my heart. There he was, suffering for the Lord in jail, and these religious leaders with highfalutin titles on the outside wrote an open letter (“A Call for Unity”) in which they criticize King’s tactics and basically blame King for the racial turmoil of the time. Though you can tell King is upset and hurt by the attack – made worse because he’s stuck in jail and can’t confront the religious leaders face-to-face – his response is gentle genius. “I wish you had commended the Negro sit-inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer, and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 881)

King has a few choice words for the Church, too: “If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 880)

King signs off with “Yours for the cause of Peace and Brotherhood”.

There’s an eerie commonality between what JFK and MLK endured at the hands of the religious bigots of their day and what Mitt Romney is facing today. I hope and pray that Romney will be able to fend off these undeserved attacks from the religious hypocrites with the same grace, dignity and God-inspired resolve displayed by the other two.

A few popular bumper stickers read: “Honk if you love Jesus” and “Christians aren’t perfect, just forgiven” or “Jesus is my co-pilot”. Yet, apparently, these same bumper-sticker Christians are the ones waging war against Mitt Romney’s run for the Presidency solely on the basis of his chosen faith in a Church that bears the name of the Savior of the world.

References

ABC News - 20/20 (2007). Philanthropic donations come from your heart, but where do they end up? Ex-money manager says "enough!" to secretive Christian Ministry spending. Glenn Ruppel & John Stossel. United States: ABC News.

Ayers, E. L., Gould, L. L., Oshinsky, D. M., & Soderlund, J. R. (2004). American Passages - a history of the United States - Volume I: to 1877 (2nd ed.). Belmont, California: Thomson/Wadsworth.

Barnet, S., & Bedau, H. (2005). Letter from Birmingham Jail. Current Issues and Enduring Questions - a guide to critical thinking and argument, with readings (7th ed., pp. 867-882). Boston and New York: Bedford/St. Martin's.

Far West History. (n.d.). The Extermination Order and how it was rescinded. Retrieved April 28, 2007, from http://www.jwha.info/mmff/exorder.htm

Hewitt, H. (2007). A Mormon in the White House? 10 things every American should know about Mitt Romney. Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, Inc.

John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum. (1960, September 12). Address of Senator John F. Kennedy to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://www.jfklibrary.org

Lds Faq. (n.d.). What was the Haun's Mill Massacre? Retrieved April 28-2007, 2004, from Brigham Young University Web Site: http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/view.asp?q=57

Media Matters for America. (2007). Fox News whitewashes evangelical hostility to Romney's faith. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200702280002


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To: Colofornian; DelphiUser
You know, DL, you've lost your "witness" here when you inwardly judge folks ("purposefully deceptive") when you have no knowledge of what you are talking about

I didn't ask for the subhead and that is not how you presented it. I asked for the quote. If it was truly our belief that accepting Joseph Smith, as though he were a savior to us (which was your implication), then yes it would be troubling. But, we don't. We accept the testimony of Joseph Smith that Jesus is the Christ, the very son of God. Can you reject that testimony (which was the point of the quote)and enter into the Kingdom of God? Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. His testimony is the divine son-ship of Jesus Christ.

Furthermore, how can I have full confidence in a person who cannot answer a simple question like, "What is the name of the church you go to?"

You don't find that odd?

2,561 posted on 05/15/2007 5:47:21 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Colofornian

I can’t answer for D&C anything since I’m not LDS. I was just pointing out that Matthew 28:19 is a contested verse that seems to have changed over the years.


2,562 posted on 05/15/2007 5:55:40 PM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: Netizen
Don't talk too loud about changing the Bible. I'm sure they will be after you next.
2,563 posted on 05/15/2007 5:57:45 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DanielLongo

Since you will not apologize for your repeated name calling, I will not cater to it. My communication re: your name will henceforth be in prayer before the Lone throne.


2,564 posted on 05/15/2007 5:58:06 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: DanielLongo
Then, maybe you can tell me who Paul went to to receive the laying on of hands to be ordained to the Apostleship.

Paul preached his gospel for a couple of years before he went to see any of the Apostles.

2,565 posted on 05/15/2007 6:07:12 PM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: DanielLongo
Or are you saying that Jesus prays to himself?

Now there's a good question! :)

2,566 posted on 05/15/2007 6:09:45 PM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: Colofornian
Whatever

...and what was the name of the church you go to?

When Jesus saw a viper he called it a viper. I have been rather generous.

2,567 posted on 05/15/2007 6:41:38 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DanielLongo

“Moses was chastened by the Lord for messing up from time to time. Does that mean he was not a prophet? Hardly.”

Equating Moses with Joseph Smith is quite a laugh. It’s a catch 22 for Mormons if you put him on that level, cause are you saying Joseph Smith parted a Sea and led his CHOSEN PEOPLE to Utah!? If that is the case, then the “Chosen Mormons” are above all other Christians and all this bull pucky about everyone being at the same level has been one big lie.

Of course, there is no $3 bill with Moses’s signature on it. Plus Moses could actually read hieroglyphics instead of just faking the translation of a funery list of gods as the book of Abraham.

So while Moses gave every indication of being an honest prophet from the start, Joseph Smith has every indication of being a petty grifter:
1) searching for buried pirate treasure,
2) losing the gold tablets (if there were any)
3) losing his first translation of the BOM,
4) translating with a seer stone found in a well and kept in his hat
5) claiming to translate hieroglyphics
6) being an adulterous multiple philanderer who tricked a bunch of gullible girls into marriage
7) running a bank scam at Kirtland

If those qualifications are the bona fides of a prophet, then the Prophet/God FastCoyote has some desert land near Searchlight to sell you. I’ve seen the future I tell you, and it’s IN PLASTICS :)


2,568 posted on 05/15/2007 6:42:43 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: colorcountry
Delphi, I think you are a little confused about "Prophets at the head."

Please no bathroom humor (grin)

No argument that Books are in order, no attempt to convince you, just stating what Mormons believe. Posting supporting documentation doesn’t seem to help in this thread since no one seems to be reading links.

Yep, Christ is the final authority, I never said he was not.

Next?
2,569 posted on 05/15/2007 6:45:19 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: tantiboh
I believe DU is closer to actual LDS Doctrine.

I was not going for 100% accuracy, as that would be a long post, and I hate posting big posts (grin)
2,570 posted on 05/15/2007 6:46:39 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DanielLongo

“When Jesus saw a viper he called it a viper. I have been rather generous.”
He wasn’t too kind about false prophets like Joseph Smith either.


2,571 posted on 05/15/2007 6:50:20 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote
“Never claimed infallible, just a prophet.”

If he is fallible, especially in translating the BOM, then your religion is toast.


Here we go again! We do NOT worship TOAST! Sheesh!

If you have the prophet over for dinner That does not mean he can or will tell you where the other sock went in your dryer, but if it was your favorite pair, it might be good to ask anyway.

On the other hand, if he says God told him to say something it’s Gospel!

Puns Fully intended
2,572 posted on 05/15/2007 6:57:50 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: tantiboh

“I pray for you MHG, because it seems to me that you have some sort of pent-up anger or frustration that causes you to lash out - to take insult and offense, and to assume the worst in others.”

Actually, some of us are praying for your soul as well, after you’ve taken it upon yourself to damn our souls to hell.

“This goes beyond our theological disagreements. If a person is determined to see a particular group of people as “arrogant” and “condescending,” it’s so much easier to find examples of such.”

Or, it might be that group is arrogant and condescending, believing they are becoming god of their own planets (could that be an indicator of arrogance????.

“Until a person finds a way to take care of such a dilemma, real happiness is much harder to find. Such a person spends their time insulted and bitter.”

As opposed to those who wander about deluded and leading others astray. I vote the second option along with MGH.


2,573 posted on 05/15/2007 7:04:33 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote
Joseph Smith did perform miracles and they are recorded.

He died in Illinois. Brigham Young and the other apostles led the people to Utah.

Latter-Day Saints do have more light and knowledge because we continue to receive revelation from the Lord and we are required to live by it. However, God is no respecter of persons and all are beloved sons and daughters to Him.

The hieroglyphics were produced and attested to by authorities in the field.

I've seen the websites with the supposed facsimile that is supposed to be the original from which Joseph Smith referenced. If that is all you know on the subject then you are woefully uninformed. What did the detractors use to come up with their translation?

1. I have no idea what you are talking about

2. He never lost the gold plates and there were many witnesses to them as you will find in the preface to the Book of Mormon. Those who became disaffected never recanted their witness of the plates.

3.He did not lose a "first translation of the Book of Mormon". The manuscript for the first book within that set of scriptures, the "Book of Lehi" was taken and never returned.

4.Do you know what Moses and the Priests of Arron called the Urim and Thummim? That's in the Old Testament, if you've never read it.

5.His claim is in over a hundred different languages. There is no claim.

6.Like Abraham and Jacob?

7.He did not run a bank in Kirtland and if you were familiar at all with U.S. history you would know that there was a national bank failure at the time, which happened to affect Kirtland. Kirtland was did not start it, was not the center of it, and certainly was insignificant as to the national scope of the crisis.

And yes, Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. Gordon B. Hinkley is the living prophet at this moment. Revelation has not ceased, nor the ministering of angels, nor Christ's intimate dealings and direction with His Apostles. The heavens are not shut and yes, the Book of Mormon is the word of God and testifies that Jesus is the Christ, the only begotten of the Father in the flesh.

2,574 posted on 05/15/2007 7:09:07 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DelphiUser

You are a doll!


2,575 posted on 05/15/2007 7:11:01 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DelphiUser

“If you have the prophet over for dinner That does not mean he can or will tell you where the other sock went in your dryer, but if it was your favorite pair, it might be good to ask anyway. On the other hand, if he says God told him to say something it’s Gospel!”

God just told the Prophet FastCoyote to tell you you are full of it. And I am 100% sure of this because God told me this, unless he didn’t, in which case I don’t know where your socks are either.

God also told me to tell you to join my banking pyramid scheme which I swear is a moneymaker for true believers. Unless the bank fails, in which case the money I printed up was just for a game of God Monopoly and not really legal tender.

Hey DU, what a pleasant surprise to get a reply from you. I thought you’d given up on me after your last attempt to get me banned:)


2,576 posted on 05/15/2007 7:14:30 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote
Now that would apply only if you wrongfully assume Joseph Smith is a false prophet.

Let's try this:

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. What church do you go to?

2,577 posted on 05/15/2007 7:15:03 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: FastCoyote
FastCoyote, that was a sincere question. What church do you go to? What is the denomination?
2,578 posted on 05/15/2007 7:24:35 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Colofornian
I've been following this thread with interest, Colorfornian.

Good to see you don't let yourself be baited into giving out personal information that has nothing to do with the facts or logic of your argument -- but has a great deal to do with handing others an excuse to attack your views by attacking you personally.

Shifting the topic of debate from the subject under discussion to personalities is one of the many dishonest tactics employed by those who know they can't win on the basis of factual, reasoned argumentation.

Can you say "ad hominem"?

2,579 posted on 05/15/2007 7:31:53 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: FastCoyote; DelphiUser
He that overcometh shall binherit call things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

So, I guess inheriting all things would mean I would have many planets and not just one. Is that more arrogant?

Rev. 3: 21 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

So the righteous will sit in God's throne. Is that even more arrogant?

Have you read the scriptures?

2,580 posted on 05/15/2007 7:32:45 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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