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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious bigotry, alive and well today

May 4, 2007 - by Saundra Duffy-Hawkins

“I wouldn’t vote for a Mormon for dogcatcher, much less President of the United States!” There’s a lot of that kind of hateful rhetoric going around since Mitt Romney decided to throw his hat in the ring – as if Mormons are some kind of hideous evil monsters. The loudest anti-Mormon shouts, sad to say, are coming from America’s so-called “Christian right”. How can Mitt Romney hope to get a fair shake in this spiritually polluted atmosphere?

There was another man running for President who faced the same dilemma – John F. Kennedy – only he was the target of anti-CATHOLIC bigotry. In his 1960 speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, JFK said the following: “. . .I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end - where all men and all churches are treated as equal - where man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice - where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind - and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their words in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.” John F. Kennedy Library & Museum (Speeches, 1960). By the way, if you listen to the audio version of JFK’s speech, you will hear the hurt and frustration in his voice and the unfair treatment surely must have caused many a sleepless night.

Fast forward to 2007 where JFK might as well have been “whistlin’ Dixie”. The hostility toward Mormons today, in my opinion, is even worse than that suffered by JFK. Although it is said that JFK lost about a million votes to religious intolerance, Romney stands to lose even more if the anti-Mormon evangelicals hang together.

According to Media Matters for America - “. . . a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media” - FOX News is not reporting accurately on the level of evangelical hostility to the Romney run. Media Matters for America points out that among evangelical leaders rejecting Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson (National Day of Prayer and Focus on the Family, respectively), the Southern Baptist Convention (collectively), Pat Robertson (Christian Broadcasting Network), and Dr. D. James Kennedy (Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida). “Among many conservative evangelicals – who comprise a significant part of the Republican base – Mormonism is considered an un-Christian cult.” Media Matters for America (2007)

While stumping in Florida, a man in the audience stood up during the Q&A portion and said the following to Romney: “You, sir, you’re a pretender. You do not know the Lord. You’re a Mormon.” Media Matters for America (2007). This is the kind of un-American, disrespectful treatment Mitt Romney will apparently have to endure throughout the entire campaign – as if just being a Mormon is reason enough to open the floodgates for free flow of pent-up hatred and vindictiveness.

For the record, the Mormon bashers know full well that the official name of Romney’s church is “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” and the members should rightfully be called “members of the LDS Church” but the words “Mormon” and “Mormonism” have an aura of negativity so they prefer to use the “M” word as if it were dirty.

Less than five minutes cruising around the official LDS website (LDS.org) will show anyone who’s interested that the Church is a Christian organization, with Jesus Christ at the Head. There are no paid clergy – all are volunteers. Humanitarian aid is legendary. Members of the LDS Church believe in strong family values; they are patriotic, they are law-abiding upstanding citizens of their community. Many LDS young men right out of high school go on two-year missions – you know, the guys on bikes – and during their mission they don’t date, read newspapers, go to movies or watch TV; but rather they dedicate two years of their lives to serving others. Many women go on missions as well, and couples, only theirs is 18 months in length but the obligations are basically the same. Most members do not shop or go out to eat on Sundays – reminiscent of the good old days when shops and stores were closed in obedience to the Commandment, “Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy”. If they can help it, LDS Church members do not work on Sundays, either, preferring to spend the day at church and with their families. Church members are encouraged to store up a year’s supply of food and water so they will be able to care for their families in the event of an emergency. The LDS Church believes in self-sufficiency and self-reliance but in the event of a financial hardship the Church distributes food and supplies through their welfare (Bishop’s Storehouse) program. Members of the LDS Church do not drink alcohol nor do they use illicit drugs; they do not drink coffee and tea. A Mormon in good standing, therefore, will not be found in a drunken stupor puking her guts out at 3 a.m. anywhere in the world. Furthermore, members of the church are encouraged to dress modestly, be polite and courteous. And members of the LDS Church are faithful tithe payers. Come on, people, what’s not to love?

So what on earth is their beef, the anti-Mormon zealots? Why is there such disdain for the LDS Church and its members? In Hugh Hewitt’s book, “Mormon in the White House?” he states his thesis that the fierce anti-Mormon sentiment among main-stream Christians stems from one or two or all three of the following factors (in order of importance):

1) “It is just too weird.

2) “A Mormon president will supercharge Mormons’ missionary work.

3) “If there is a Mormon in the White House, Salt Lake City will call the shots, at least on the biggest issues.” Hewitt (2007, p. 221-227)

Hugh Hewitt has written an exquisite book about the Romney campaign and overcoming the “Mormon problem.” It’s a good read and I highly recommend it. Of the three problem points listed in the previous paragraph, Hewitt believes – unless some unforeseen blunder destroys his chances – none of the three is insurmountable for Mitt Romney. (Plus, he has the best hair.)

Well, I’m no Hugh Hewitt, not even close; he’s an icon on the conservative radio talk show circuit. Hewitt could talk circles around me (I’ve seen him in action in Sacramento); he’s brilliant; he’s well educated, well read, no doubt a genius, plus he’s kind of cute. I’m basically a “nobody” – an overweight grandma – but after having researched for this paper, I have come to a totally different conclusion as to why there is such in-your-face angst over Romney’s religion of choice: It’s all about money, power and control (in that order). I think they’re (the evangelical religious bigots, that is) scared half to death and are revving up their attacks, not to save souls, but to save their reputations (which if tarnished would lead to financial ruin).

As I said, all one must do is browse around the LDS official web site to see what the LDS Church believes and stands for. Any reasonable person would conclude that Mormons are not evil monsters at all. In fact, they are God fearing, Christ believing, Holy Ghost following people going about doing good. “You will know them by their fruit” and the LDS has plenty of fruit and they are willing to share.

Earlier, I stated that some high-powered ministries have publicly condemned Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson, the Southern Baptist Convention, Pat Robertson, and Dr. D. James Kennedy – just to name a few. There are hoards of others. Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric. I heard the message loud clear when I was a Baptist and when I tiptoed through evangelical/Pentecostal territories. Was I ever miffed when I later learned for myself the Gospel truth about the LDS Church.

Just think about it, please. If Dr. D. James Kennedy, for example, who wrote the book, The Wolves Among Us, were to admit he’d been wrong in labeling the LDS Church a “cult” that leads unwary ignorant people astray (to hell), what would become of his multi-million-dollar ministry? Suffice it to say, there’s big money to be had by sale of books, tapes, CD’s, videos, and other anti-Mormon propaganda, not to mention speaking engagements and world-wide religious crusades. We’re talking trillions, all told. I realize the anti-Mormon aspect of these ministries is but a small portion of the business, but if the truth came out, that they had been using falsehoods about the LDS Church as a cash cow, their entire empires could tumble.

The ABC News program 20/20 aired on March 23, 2007, exposed the lavish lifestyles of some of the top evangelical preachers – million dollar mansions and personal jets. ABC News - 20/20 (2007) (Again, the LDS Church has no paid clergy.)

It’s nothing new. Severe harassment and persecution has been the lot of the LDS Church since it’s inception in 1820 when a 14-year-old boy named Joseph Smith saw visions and communed with heavenly beings. Rather than discuss the spiritual aspects of the LDS Church, however, let’s stick to facts of history. Taken from a college-level early American history textbook, Joseph Smith, upon experiencing the visions and visitations, believed “that God had work for me to do, and that my name should be for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 292). The textbook continues, “They were met with hostility virtually everywhere they went . . . . As the movement gathered momentum, hundreds of people joined the church; entire congregations of churches of other faiths joined . . .” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 293)

During the dark time of American history when slavery was flourishing and when Native Americans were forced from their lands, the pioneers of the LDS Church also suffered at the hands of unscrupulous politicians, governmental leaders, and angry hate-filled mobs. “In the face of relentless persecution, Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, had led his flock to Illinois. There they had established the town of Nauvoo, which by the mid-1840’s had become the largest city in Illinois with over 15,000 people. . . In June 1844, a mob of non-Mormons broke into the jail where Smith was being held and killed both him and his brother. . .The Mormons abandoned Nauvoo in the spring of 1846 as anti-Mormons pounded the town with cannon, destroying the Great Temple. In a well-coordinated migration, 15,000 Mormons moved in stages to the Great Salt Lake.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 334-335) Many walked all the way and many died along the way, including innocent babes.

Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge – and they had planned to castrate him, too. On October 27, 1838, the then governor of Missouri issued an “extermination order”: “The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary . . .” Far West History (n.d.) Please note that the order called for exterminating “Mormons” making no distinction between men, women and children, and indeed women and children were subject to the extermination order.

In an event known in LDS history as “the Haun’s Mill Massacre”, precipitated by the extermination order, 30 to 40 LDS families were surprised by some 200 to 250 militia. After the smoke cleared, seventeen LDS people lay dead including a ten-year-old boy. Thirteen LDS members were wounded including a woman and a seven-year-old boy. “A few Missourians returned the next day and took plunder.” LDS FAQ (n.d.) No Missouri militiamen were killed but three were wounded. Just a few years earlier, the LDS folk who died that day had been members of other churches - Congregational or Methodist or Baptist or Presbyterian.

In l976, Governor Bond of Missouri officially rescinded the extermination order and presented apologies for the “unfortunate developments” it caused. Quoting from Governor Bond’s Executive Order: “WHEREAS, Governor Boggs’ order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and . . . Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering rescind Executive Order Number 44 dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs. . .” Far West History (n.d.) The individuals who harassed, abused, and even murdered Mormons in cold blood were never tried for their crimes.

I read Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from Birmingham Jail and it really touched my heart. There he was, suffering for the Lord in jail, and these religious leaders with highfalutin titles on the outside wrote an open letter (“A Call for Unity”) in which they criticize King’s tactics and basically blame King for the racial turmoil of the time. Though you can tell King is upset and hurt by the attack – made worse because he’s stuck in jail and can’t confront the religious leaders face-to-face – his response is gentle genius. “I wish you had commended the Negro sit-inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer, and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 881)

King has a few choice words for the Church, too: “If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 880)

King signs off with “Yours for the cause of Peace and Brotherhood”.

There’s an eerie commonality between what JFK and MLK endured at the hands of the religious bigots of their day and what Mitt Romney is facing today. I hope and pray that Romney will be able to fend off these undeserved attacks from the religious hypocrites with the same grace, dignity and God-inspired resolve displayed by the other two.

A few popular bumper stickers read: “Honk if you love Jesus” and “Christians aren’t perfect, just forgiven” or “Jesus is my co-pilot”. Yet, apparently, these same bumper-sticker Christians are the ones waging war against Mitt Romney’s run for the Presidency solely on the basis of his chosen faith in a Church that bears the name of the Savior of the world.

References

ABC News - 20/20 (2007). Philanthropic donations come from your heart, but where do they end up? Ex-money manager says "enough!" to secretive Christian Ministry spending. Glenn Ruppel & John Stossel. United States: ABC News.

Ayers, E. L., Gould, L. L., Oshinsky, D. M., & Soderlund, J. R. (2004). American Passages - a history of the United States - Volume I: to 1877 (2nd ed.). Belmont, California: Thomson/Wadsworth.

Barnet, S., & Bedau, H. (2005). Letter from Birmingham Jail. Current Issues and Enduring Questions - a guide to critical thinking and argument, with readings (7th ed., pp. 867-882). Boston and New York: Bedford/St. Martin's.

Far West History. (n.d.). The Extermination Order and how it was rescinded. Retrieved April 28, 2007, from http://www.jwha.info/mmff/exorder.htm

Hewitt, H. (2007). A Mormon in the White House? 10 things every American should know about Mitt Romney. Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, Inc.

John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum. (1960, September 12). Address of Senator John F. Kennedy to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://www.jfklibrary.org

Lds Faq. (n.d.). What was the Haun's Mill Massacre? Retrieved April 28-2007, 2004, from Brigham Young University Web Site: http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/view.asp?q=57

Media Matters for America. (2007). Fox News whitewashes evangelical hostility to Romney's faith. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200702280002


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To: MHGinTN

Very nice post...........


1,561 posted on 05/09/2007 12:06:23 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is blacker than the devil's riding boots......................)
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To: DelphiUser; P-Marlowe; sevenbak; MHGinTN; restornu; greyfoxx39

These quotes don’t neccessarily show that Mormons do not believe God was always God, but they do show the believe that God was once a man (perhaps God in embryo). I think it shows clearly that according to Mormonism, man has the ability to become God and are current in context with what the Church currenty teaches unless there’s been a revision since 1989.

“From President Snow’s understanding of the teachings of the Prophet on this doctrinal point, he coined the familiar couplet: ‘As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.’ This teaching is peculiar to the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.”
Marion Romney (1st Presidency)
General Conference, October 1964

“The Lorenzo Snow couplet expresses a true statement: ‘As man is, God once was; and as God is, man may become.’”
Seventy Bruce C. Hafen
The Broken Heart: Applying the Atonement to Life’s Experiences, 1989, p.133

“This process known as eternal progression is succinctly expressed in the LDS aphorism, ‘As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.’”
Encyclopedia of Mormonism 4:1474


1,562 posted on 05/09/2007 12:07:48 PM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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To: RECONRICK
Some might say, controlled, manchurian candidate style.

Direct HIT! You sunk their battleship.

1,563 posted on 05/09/2007 12:08:49 PM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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To: colorcountry
Shall I now post a link to the site that thouroughly debunks your “trial” lawyer.

No as I am sure there is one. The point is you quote sources as if they are “un assialble” when they are in fact in dispute.

My earlier statement holds we will probably never know everything that happened that day, and for that I am grateful.

I will go further and state we will never know for sure if BY was involved or not.

“Blood of the Prophets” speaks for itself and facts are facts:

That they are, and I just wish this book was better acquainted with some of them.
1,564 posted on 05/09/2007 12:10:14 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Osage Orange; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe

Thank you, you’re too kind. The first time I ever heard of this Temple/Man arrangement was literally decades ago while listneing to J. Vernon McGee as my company car radio played Through The Bible Radio (if my old memory serves; Dr Kennedy also has a booklet on this topic, and Rex Humbard used to teach this on occasion, indicating it is somewhat interdenominational in origin). The repetition of ‘threes’ is the source of one of the aspects of the new cosmological perspective I’m working on.


1,565 posted on 05/09/2007 12:13:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: DelphiUser; MHGinTN; colorcountry; FastCoyote
Weren't you one of the ones excoriating us for our victim mentality earlier?

Well, it seemed to have hit the mark, as the victim mentality has been replaced by the attack mentality. You are nothing if not versatile. I certainly didn't use the work "liar" in any of my posts, here or any place else.

1,566 posted on 05/09/2007 12:17:56 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: DelphiUser
I will go further and state we will never know for sure if BY was involved or not.

I suppose you are correct. Some people will never look at evidence as proof, but rely on a burning bosom in determining truth. Most of the those who know the story are utterly convinced that Brigham Young knew and covered it up. Some are even convinced that he ordered it. And then there are those Mormons who fail to even explore the possibility.

1,567 posted on 05/09/2007 12:18:59 PM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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To: colorcountry
As even we non-lawyers know, a lot of evidence, facts, truth, etc., do not make it into a case for various legal reasons, but this doesn’t mean the evidence is not true, just that it’s “inadmissible.”

LOL! “Fake but accurate” comes to mind…

I for one would Rather not go there.

Thus, Mr. Crockett’s chastisement of Juanita Brooks, Will Bagley, and others for using evidence that Mr. Crockett does not consider “worthy” because of admissibility rules, seems disingenuous to me.

Makes perfect sense to me, a court is crucible and in it we burn away all irrelevancies until we reach the TRUTH. If you are not interested in truth, then by all means accept any piece of evidence that goes with your prevailing desire and I am sure you will find plenty to confirm your forgone conclusion, and Convict accordingly.

As all lawyers, Mr. Crockett is writing as an advocate.

And you are not advocating anything? I could go back and find posts on this very thread in which you state you are.

I see this tactic often employed by LDS apologists

And I see your tactics used by well you, and other Antis’ Attack, slander, give incomplete or unsubstantiatable facts and attack any rebuttal as being “Typical” or Spin, or SOP.

Your perspective is Coloring you here Color, while I respect your knowledge of specifics your conclusions are unfortunately tainted by your emotions on this.
1,569 posted on 05/09/2007 12:29:19 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: MHGinTN

Thank you so much for the ping and your engaging post at 1553!


1,570 posted on 05/09/2007 12:31:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MHGinTN
J. Vernon McGee....!!

Whoa...I learned alot from him...many years ago. I liked his delivery and his common sense like knowledge.

Best FRegards,

1,571 posted on 05/09/2007 12:32:29 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is blacker than the devil's riding boots......................)
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To: colorcountry
In Jesus day people were not married in a Temple. Hellooooo!

I know, I just did not want to be rude, (grin)
1,572 posted on 05/09/2007 12:32:39 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: colorcountry
Those people he kept out were the BRIDES!

Look Proof of plural marraige in the Bible!
1,573 posted on 05/09/2007 12:40:44 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
And you are not advocating anything? I could go back and find posts on this very thread in which you state you are.

Of course I am advocating. If I were to write a thesis on this subject, you would be foolish to only look at MY evidence. Just like it is foolish to only look at evidence from the LDS apologists. I am simply asking you to read all material facts. But ultimately you will decide.

And I see your tactics used by well you, and other Antis’ Attack, slander, give incomplete or unsubstantiatable facts and attack any rebuttal as being “Typical” or Spin, or SOP.

I've asked you before Delphi, are all who do not support your narrow viewpoint "anti?" It really appears that this is the case.

Your perspective is Coloring you here Color, while I respect your knowledge of specifics your conclusions are unfortunately tainted by your emotions on this.

And you are trying to adbvocate that YOU DON"T have a horse in this race? Come on now Delphi, we are not stoopid nooobs.

1,574 posted on 05/09/2007 12:46:52 PM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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To: P-Marlowe
So you and God started off as "intelligences" and he got the jump on you toward Godhood. Is that the way it works?

No, and I get the feeling you are purposefully missing the point here.

Who was the first God formed? Was it your Eternal Father, or was it some other "intelligence"'s eternal father?

Who knows, who cares, we haven’t been told, it’s none of our business, we could not understand the answer anyway, take your pick. I am becoming more certain you are missing the point on purpose.

If your Eternal Father is the Father of your spirit, then who is the Father of the Spirit your Eternal Father? Do you have an Eternal Grandfather? And does he have an Eternal Grandfather?

Now I know you are just being silly, but probably. So? They have no authority over us, we have a God. Then the early church was teaching heresy.

Well it is what Jesus was convicted for by the Sanhedrin, now wasn’t it.

Do you agree with this scripture:

Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. (Isaiah 43:10 KJV)


Yes.

Is that one of those scriptures that wasn't translated correctly?

No, but it is obviously one you do not look at from the proper perspective.

I know from Prior threads that you are not really here to learn, so I will not waste my time, trying to teach you.
1,575 posted on 05/09/2007 12:50:12 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: colorcountry
I will not vote for Romney, ever. I am an extreme case perhaps, but the danger to a society that would accept Romney's beliefs is more damaging to this country than four years of the witch.

Strong words, perhaps the strongest condemnation of Romney that I can imagine, given what the average Freeper thinks about Hillary. Of course, there are those who feel the same way about McCain and Giuliani, which means that if Fred Thompson is not the Republican nominee (I give the others practically zero chance of getting more than ten percent in anything other than their home states) we are likely looking at the prospect of a Rat President and a Rat Congress for at least two years.

I guess Justice Stevens can finally lay his burden down...

1,576 posted on 05/09/2007 12:50:42 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: colorcountry
I see you are being attacked in a post complaining about "anti's" attacks.

Hamster dance......

1,577 posted on 05/09/2007 12:52:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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Those who trust in Christ for salvation are the bride of Christ. Is Christ committing adultery or are those who claim they will continue to be married to their earthly wives committing adultery in Heaven? The contradictions in Joe Smith’s peculiar religion are numerous and pernicious.


1,578 posted on 05/09/2007 12:53:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: hunter112

I ceratinly don’t trust Romney to select the next SCOTUS justice. Look at the ones he put on the Massachusetts court.

I guess America will get what it deserves. The Pubbies better play this one smart. Romeny cannot and will not win. We’d better be hoping (I’ll be praying) for a better candidate, or for our Dark Horse - DUNCAN HUNTER to finally get some support!


1,579 posted on 05/09/2007 12:54:55 PM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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