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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #1~ Reagan Library 05/03/07 - Official Discussion Thread
Posted on 05/03/2007 3:19:11 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #1 Reagan Library 05/03/07 - Official Discussion Thread
- Sam Brownback
- Jim Gilmore
- Rudy Giuliani
- Mike Huckabee
- Duncan Hunter
- John McCain
- Mitt Romney
- Ron Paul
- Tom Tancredo
- Tommy Thompson
The debate will take place at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, and will air live on MSNBC from 8:00 to 9:30 pm (ET) and stream live on MSNBC.com and politico.com and will include audience questions gathered on politico.com.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brownback; debate2007; duncanhunter; elections2008; gilmore; giuliani; huckabee; hunter; jimgilmore; johnmccain; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; paul; presidentialdebate; reagan; reaganlibrary; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; sambrownback; tancredo; thompson; tommythompson; tomtancredo
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To: George W. Bush
Well uh, yes sir Mr. President. :)
To: darkangel82; Fudd Fan; All
Why? None of them are the Conservative that we so deperately need. None of those three can rightfully claim the mantle of Reagan Conservative anymore than the current President can. In facy...McLame, Rudi and RINO Ron are closer to W than they are Ronaldus Magnus.
And as much as people here on FR complain about what a Moderate the current President is...it just dumbfounds me why anyone would support more of the same...if all we do is bitch and moan about how bad that kind of leadership is bad for the country.
2,522
posted on
05/04/2007 5:35:33 AM PDT
by
txradioguy
(In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
To: Netizen
That is in fact the goal of the pro-life movement. To take it to the grassroots and let the moral force of each community appeal to their neighbors.
Although I find Romney’s overall position on abortion in Mass. too cute for my taste, I respect the larger position in this regard.
He is a smart guy and is positioning himself square in line with the result of the Supreme Court throwing Roe vs. Wade into the garbage and back to the states.
To: calcowgirl
Rudy is out of his league tonightonly better than Paul and Tancredo Actually, I think Tancredo whooped him. I definitely agree. Tancredo was waaay better than Rudy. I like Ron Pauls passion but he should not ever be considered for anything but dog catcher.
2,524
posted on
05/04/2007 5:39:11 AM PDT
by
showme_the_Glory
(No more rhymes, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
To: romanesq
He is a smart guy and is positioning himself square in line with the result of the Supreme Court throwing Roe vs. Wade into the garbage and back to the states. That may be, but as someone else pointed out earlier, replace the word abortion with slavery. Some things just shouldn't be, even at the state level.
Abortion isn't the only issue out there, but its right at the top of the list. If it's a hot potato to toss to someone else, then don't apply for the hot seat.
2,525
posted on
05/04/2007 5:44:31 AM PDT
by
Netizen
(If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
To: La Enchiladita
What did you say? LOL
2,526
posted on
05/04/2007 5:48:20 AM PDT
by
beachn4fun
(How long will the world allow terrorism to be the answer to the problem?)
To: BobS
I visited the RR library in 2001...
Is this a new room they were using last night?...Air Force 1 wasn't there when I visited....
2,527
posted on
05/04/2007 5:49:01 AM PDT
by
Guenevere
(Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
To: The Pack Knight
Hunter drops slightly because of this, as a lot of his confidence seemed to come from the fact that he largely stuck to his talking points, even if they only had a loose relationship with the question asked.
Hunter did well. Not well enough to move to the first tier. I think Tancredo will lose support, especially financial. The closed-border crowd had better pick one candidate, the same that the conservative base needs to settle on one candidate to stop the leftwing mayor.
Tommy Thompson gets a bump up. I think I mistook his quiet thoughtfulness for lack of confidence the first time around, as he seemed to genuinely want to answer every question directly, honestly, and completely.
No charisma. He'll prove, yet again, that resume isn't everything.
Overall, my list of winners and losers stays roughly the same. Romney was the biggest winner, followed by Hunter and, to a lesser extent, Paul. ... The biggest winners, though? Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich, because, aside from Romney, no one was particularly impressive.
I still agree. I'd add that Thompson and Gingrich might be more tempted to enter but also that Ron Paul's performance and the stronger-than-expected response he'll get in the polls will tempt Hagel to enter as well. Ron Paul as the last constitutional conservative, Hagel as the last living Eisenhower Republican.
2,528
posted on
05/04/2007 5:52:41 AM PDT
by
George W. Bush
(Election Math For Dummies: GOP รท Rudi = Hillary)
To: Netizen
As I noted, his answers are a bit too cute for my taste. But I can not argue with the logic of the overall position whatsoever.
The idea that the nation will rally to the life position based on an analogy to slavery is a non-starter.
It will be some time in the future when historians are able to muster that matter of fact idea and apply it to the past, much like slavery.
But today, no, no one is expecting that analogy to change any tide.
To: romanesq
He’ll never get my vote with his stance.
2,530
posted on
05/04/2007 5:55:27 AM PDT
by
Netizen
(If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
To: TomGuy
Matthews is back to McCain.
Did Hunter get a question?
&&&
I did not go back to check the transcript, and I was only able to watch about half of the debate, but it looked as if Chrissy’s method was to jump around and aim for the weakest player. Even the camera work reflected this. How many times was the camera aimed at someone else when a candidate was answering? This so-called debate should have been called Chrissy Matthews’ “Dodgeball”. Oh how I despise that piece of clinton!
2,531
posted on
05/04/2007 6:08:55 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
To: merryweather
Im stuck on a modem and just cant keep up, lol.
***
I empathize. I was there until about a month ago.
Welcome to FR!
2,532
posted on
05/04/2007 6:12:44 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
To: Texas_Jarhead
Texas_Jarhead, I’d forgotten that part, being voluntary. One thing about the government, it’s always in flux, depending on the party in charge.
To: ken5050
Thanks for your thoughtful analysis.
2,534
posted on
05/04/2007 6:16:15 AM PDT
by
AFPhys
((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
To: Capt. Jake
McCain-I will follow him to the gates of Hell.
**
Don’t trust McCain, but I loved that answer.
2,535
posted on
05/04/2007 6:17:46 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
To: NittanyLion
I believe your comparison of Rudy & Romney is exactly right.
This is way, way too far away from the elections for anybody to get hyper about the Rudy candidacy.
2,536
posted on
05/04/2007 6:18:34 AM PDT
by
AFPhys
((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
To: alicewonders
‘Cause Chrissy’s playing Dodgeball, aiming for what he hopes is a weak answer. He’s ignoring the stronger players.
2,537
posted on
05/04/2007 6:19:39 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
To: AliVeritas
Ill see your move heaven and earth and raise you to the gates of hell.
&&
Too clever!
2,538
posted on
05/04/2007 6:22:06 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
To: Netizen; romanesq; EternalVigilance; flaglady47; restornu
Being realistic, not idealistic:
How many votes in Congress would have to be reversed in order to get a “Human Life Amendment” passed. Recall the requirement is a 2/3s vote of BOTH House and Senate. THEN, that Amendment would require 3/4 of the states to agree before it took its place in our Constitution.
Romney’s position on this is the only way the President matters - judges on the USSC to throw the issue back to the states. ... He doesn’t even have to sign on to any Amendment - only Congress matters in this.
A president backing Justices who believe that the Constitution is NOT a living document, but must be amended in order to be changed, is the proper approach to this issue, and I don’t see that Romney’s position on this issue is at all incorrect, improper, or in any way disqualifies him from being considered a down-the-line conservative on this issue.
2,539
posted on
05/04/2007 6:41:15 AM PDT
by
AFPhys
((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
To: George W. Bush
No charisma. [Tommy Thompson will] prove, yet again, that resume isn't everything.
Of course. I was just correcting my initial impression that he wasn't prepared. I appreciated his straightforwardness, but no, he doesn't have the charisma or presence to win the nomination, much less the election.
2,540
posted on
05/04/2007 6:44:04 AM PDT
by
The Pack Knight
(Duty, Honor, Country. Thompson/Franks '08)
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