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US gender pay gap emerges early, study finds
Reuters ^ | 04/23/07 | Ellen Wulfhorst

Posted on 04/23/2007 6:58:28 AM PDT by presidio9

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1 posted on 04/23/2007 6:58:29 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Parenthood affected men and women in vividly different ways.

Procreation and childbirth do as well. It’s almost as if the sexes were designed for different purposes.


2 posted on 04/23/2007 7:03:00 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08 Pro family, pro life, pro second Amendment, not a control freak.)
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To: presidio9

You know, maybe women are just different from men in their goals and ambitions. Why do we have to assume it is some kind of discrimination?


3 posted on 04/23/2007 7:03:32 AM PDT by Always Right
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While in college, the study showed, women outperformed men academically, and their grade point averages were higher in every college major.

This seems unlikely to me. In every major, women have higher grades than men? Engineering? Mathematics? This would refute any number of studies that show, in general, better performance of men in math and fields with heavy dependance on spatial relationships.

4 posted on 04/23/2007 7:05:15 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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One year out of college, women working full time earn 80 percent of what men earn, according to the study by the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation, based in Washington D.C.

Hmmmm, I wonder if a study conducted by the Cato Institute, or the Heritage Foundation, using the same exact data would have reached the same conclusions. It seemed to me as I read the article that even though the study found significant other factors that contributed to the "gap" it discounted those factors and concluded that the data gives conclusive proof of discrimination.

5 posted on 04/23/2007 7:05:19 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Go Rudy Go! (And take McCain with you!))
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To: presidio9

I’m an employer. Multiple companies in multiple states nationwide.

I’ve never once even considered a lower pay scale for women, and most of the staff in the companies are in fact female, as I sit and think about this.

I’ve never seen a situation where a woman isn’t paid the same money for the same job as a male, I only read about it in articles like this.

Which causes me to wonder if its real, or just PC coming out.


6 posted on 04/23/2007 7:06:20 AM PDT by Badeye (Like it or not, we live in a time when Hero's are required.)
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To: Always Right
Why do we have to assume it is some kind of discrimination?

So the professional whiners can get on TV and to keep the grant money flowing.

7 posted on 04/23/2007 7:08:04 AM PDT by freespirited
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ping


8 posted on 04/23/2007 7:10:44 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Badeye

This is the second story I’ve seen on this in several days.

It’s the beginning of the new push to ratify the ERA.


9 posted on 04/23/2007 7:12:14 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: freespirited; VRWCmember; Badeye; pepsi_junkie

Early this year, Hillary ran this cause up the flag poll as a potential major campaign topic, and even liberal women had a hard time getting excited about it, because it’s simply no longer an issue. It would have been as if Obama ran as an abolitionist candidate.


10 posted on 04/23/2007 7:12:37 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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To: VRWCmember
Hmmmm, I wonder if a study conducted by the Cato Institute, or the Heritage Foundation, using the same exact data would have reached the same conclusions.

I'm not going to say because I havent seen it. But this group is hard to beat for biased, agenda-driven work. Check out this critique of their famed fantasy, How Schools Shortchange Girls.

http://www.uaf.edu/northern/schools/myth.html

11 posted on 04/23/2007 7:14:45 AM PDT by freespirited
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Y..A...W...N


12 posted on 04/23/2007 7:14:49 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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Same tired old arguments. This can’t be true, otherwise there would be no men in the workplace. My old company managers would sell their own children to shave 1/10th of a percent off the bottom line....imagine what they’d do to save 10-30%!


13 posted on 04/23/2007 7:15:20 AM PDT by wbill
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The public education system's war against boys has been so successful that 60% of college graduates are now women.

Given that fact, the law of supply-and-demand explains the income gap between male and female college graduates; the scarcer resource commands a higher price.

14 posted on 04/23/2007 7:15:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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This study is meaningless without comparing job types.

If you do the comparison within a given field and adjust for experience missed due to child-rearing, I would guess the disparity disappears.

What they're saying is that women who do easy office work should be paid as much as union construction workers or engineers.

Please cue the Internationale.

15 posted on 04/23/2007 7:16:36 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: I still care

This is the second story I’ve seen on this in several days.

It’s the beginning of the new push to ratify the ERA.

Hmmm. Gotta admit, I didn’t even consider that aspect, thanks for pointing it out.

It makes sense.


16 posted on 04/23/2007 7:16:44 AM PDT by Badeye (Like it or not, we live in a time when Hero's are required.)
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“Early this year, Hillary ran this cause up the flag poll as a potential major campaign topic, and even liberal women had a hard time getting excited about it, because it’s simply no longer an issue”

Good point.


17 posted on 04/23/2007 7:17:19 AM PDT by Badeye (Like it or not, we live in a time when Hero's are required.)
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It’s the beginning of the new push to ratify the ERA.

Bingo.

18 posted on 04/23/2007 7:17:46 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Badeye

Your real-life experience is precisely the truth. I have NEVER seen even one example of gender-based wage differences. I have worked in computers for over 30 years, and the pay scales are identical, as adjusted for individual experience. Not only that, every government installation must as a matter of law and policy have identical scales. This whole thing sounds like feminist propaganda. If some women prefer to go into fields other than those that have identical pay for productivity, that is no concern of mine.


19 posted on 04/23/2007 7:18:50 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: pierrem15
If you do the comparison within a given field and adjust for experience missed due to child-rearing, I would guess the disparity disappears.

John Stossell (I think) wrote about this not long ago. You're right, it becomes statistically insignificant...

20 posted on 04/23/2007 7:19:48 AM PDT by wbill
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